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Hope someone will be able to throw some light on to what is becoming a nightmare. This four page form received today is asking me to demonstrate that we meet the conditions of "regulation 9 (as amended)". We received RC through Surinder Singh entry in 2012.

So what has changed I'm finding hard to tell.

1. Do I as BC now have to prove looking for work, working, self employed, self sufficient, or a student? I thought this did not apply to the BC (British Citizen) in Surinder Singh applicants. If so, for what period of time do I need proof to have been undertaking these activities...from 2012? When was the rule changed?

2. It says what address did BC live at before returning? BC did not, apart from attending the Citizenship Ceremony in London.
BC arrived from outside the EU having received their UK citizenship and passport outside the UK or EU. BC did physically attend the Citizenship ceremony in London before moving to the EU, and then subsequently to the UK 6 months later.

2.1 Is this a problem? My centre of life was 100% in the EU country before moving to the UK with my family for the first time.

3. Why did the BC decide to move back to the UK from the EEA host? I don't understand this question...BC moved to the UK to live in the UK...what other reason could there be?

4. Have you or BC lived together in any other countries other than the UK or the EEA kost country? Provide details and supporting evidence This is killing me...what does where I have lived elsewhere in the world got anything to do with this application. In the original submission I named every country we have lived in, so how do I go about providing supporting evidence of this. It seems crazy.

5. Why did you make an application under the Surinder Singh ruling and not under domestic UK Immigration Rules? I don't understand this- is it a trick question? BC used Surinder Singh route because after we moved to the EU host country we decided to move to UK as work was hard to come by. Will that suffice?

6. How did you spend your time in the EEA host country? This is for the non-EU partner of BC. The BC was exercising their Treaty Rights as self employed running his business, the partner was looking after the household at home. Is this now a problem?

I find it astonishing that 100% of this information is provided by us in the application form along with all the supporting original documents (which were approved for RC card 5 years ago!).

Thanks again. Please reply urgently.

Continuing on...

7. If the PRC is not issued or is delayed, what happens when the residence card as family member of an eu national expires (in a couple of weeks time)?

7.1 If they travel after it has expired, will they be allowed back into the country?

8. Eind judgement should still apply until finalisation of Brexit...legally this is binding until that point?

Urgently need input, thanks

what...no-one? Used to be an incredibly helpful bunch of mods/guru's...hope you all haven't been taken over by Serco! (joke).

Any thoughts/ advice please. I can't believe the rules have changed so much that we are all shtum.

There was a rule change on 25th November last year. See lengthy discussion topic linked below.

eea-route-applications/new-eea-regulati ... 19308.html

CR001 wrote:There was a rule change on 25th November last year. See lengthy discussion topic linked below.

eea-route-applications/new-eea-regulati ... 19308.html

Thanks for that. If the government is going to ignore the law, then...well its a case of hypocrisy: do as I say, not as I do. I mean we have understood Eind to stand when applying in 2012. That is the law that they are (still) bound to until Brexit in 2019. Yet on 25th November 2016 Eind is apparently now to be ignored. Assuming even that we heard of this new law, how on earth does a person produce proof when they can never recover the past, cannot go back in time between 2012 and 25th November 2016.

Apart from that why send us a subtle threatening 4-page questionnaire when 100% of the information has been supplied already. How is it even possible. Are they using external contractors to evaluate submissions? Perhaps these private sector 'bounty hunters' are too busy to read the application forms and supporting documents properly?

Awful.

[quote="greatscott"]Hope someone will be able to throw some light on to what is becoming a nightmare. This four page form received today is asking me to demonstrate that we meet the conditions of [color=#BF0000]"regulation 9 (as amended)[/color]". We received RC through Surinder Singh entry in 2012.

So what has changed I'm finding hard to tell.

1.[color=#0000FF] Do I as BC now have to prove looking for work, working, self employed, self sufficient, or a student?[/color] I thought this did not apply to the BC (British Citizen) in Surinder Singh applicants. If so, for what period of time do I need proof to have been undertaking these activities...from 2012? When was the rule changed?

2. [i][color=#BF0000]It says what address did BC live at before returning?[/color][/i] BC did not, apart from attending the Citizenship Ceremony in London.
BC arrived from outside the EU having received their UK citizenship and passport outside the UK or EU. BC did physically attend the Citizenship ceremony in London before moving to the EU, and then subsequently to the UK 6 months later.

2.1 Is this a problem? My centre of life was 100% in the EU country before moving to the UK with my family for the first time.

3. [i][color=#BF0000]Why did the BC decide to move back to the UK from the EEA host?[/color][/i] I don't understand this question...BC moved to the UK to live in the UK...what other reason could there be?

4. [i][color=#BF0000]Have you or BC lived together in any other countries other than the UK or the EEA kost country? Provide details and supporting evidence[/color][/i] This is killing me...what does where I have lived elsewhere in the world got anything to do with this application. In the original submission I named every country we have lived in, so how do I go about providing supporting evidence of this. It seems crazy.

5. [color=#BF0000][i]Why did you make an application under the Surinder Singh ruling and not under domestic UK Immigration Rules?[/i][/color] I don't understand this- is it a trick question? BC used Surinder Singh route because after we moved to the EU host country we decided to move to UK as work was hard to come by. Will that suffice?

6. [i][color=#BF0000]How did you spend your time in the EEA host country?[/color][/i] This is for the non-EU partner of BC. The BC was exercising their Treaty Rights as self employed running his business, the partner was looking after the household at home. Is this now a problem?

I find it astonishing that 100% of this information is provided by us in the application form along with all the supporting original documents (which were approved for RC card 5 years ago!).

Thanks again. Please reply urgently.[/quote]

Hi Great Scott-- how did you go about filling in this questionnaire and what were the results? I just received it as well and am not sure what to say. I've started a separate thread because I couldn't find answers in the one someone posted. Do you have any advice? Best, Meredith

Skylar1331 wrote:Hi Great Scott-- how did you go about filling in this questionnaire and what were the results? I just received it as well and am not sure what to say. I've started a separate thread because I couldn't find answers in the one someone posted. Do you have any advice? Best, Meredith

Hi, I wrote my answers by hand in the margins of the questionnaire and returned it the same afternoon. I referred to Eind as a matter of principle, because that was the law then (and still is now as far as I am concerned until after Brexit). But I did include pay slips, P60's, etc that I had luckily kept.

There was no need for this questionnaire if they had bothered to read the contents of the application, but you know maybe this is a delaying tactic because its been 6 months... I really don't care, its not good form to change the rules retrospectively like this.

My advice is just be direct and keep explanations to a minimum...after all perhaps a little honesty might rub off on these people.

Thanks for the advice!