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sadmanonatrain wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:51 pm

Hi. Keeping it short for the long timers on here.

I'm British wanting to live with my non-EU wife in the UK. Just to cross out all the potential options; if I were to get a German passport (I was born there and have a German parent, so can obtain it), could I just take my wife as a family member of an official(?) EU citizen (me) to the UK?

All while still retaining my British passport too? (while the UK remains an EU member state, UK nationals can apply for German nationality without the need to renounce UK nationality.)

We're likely going to actually try the 'rights to a family life violating 18,600 pound spouse route' but there's also the SS (where I pretend to be an EU citizen as a British person in Ireland or Malta for 6 months) and the silly sounding naive route above. All before brexit that is.

Hope you can conclusively answer either way.

Cheers.

sadmanonatrain wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:43 pm

Thanks for those replies. Yeah the UK spouse visa will likely be first bet, failing that, might as well try Ireland. It's useful to know that the mumurs I've heard over the last year or so look to be true; that route is almost closed due to exploitation. But technically still open right. Worst case scenario, we'll just be enjoying life in Ireland...close enough

This question sounds dumb but I hope someone will entertain it. Please tell me the UK spouse fee of 1,500 pounds only applies if your application is accepted? You don't pay it beforehand and if it fails, well tough luck.

I'm currently working over the income requirement in my current country to accrue the 6 months of proof in payslips. Am I right in saying there's a grace period of being able to return to the UK alone and apply/look for work above the financial limit? 3 months? It's going to be almost impossible getting work through Skype interviews.

I hope you're doing well wherever you are.

Wanderer wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:06 pm

sadmanonatrain wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:43 pm

Thanks for those replies. Yeah the UK spouse visa will likely be first bet, failing that, might as well try Ireland. It's useful to know that the mumurs I've heard over the last year or so look to be true; that route is almost closed due to exploitation. But technically still open right. Worst case scenario, we'll just be enjoying life in Ireland...close enough

This question sounds dumb but I hope someone will entertain it. Please tell me the UK spouse fee of 1,500 pounds only applies if your application is accepted? You don't pay it beforehand and if it fails, well tough luck.

I'm currently working over the income requirement in my current country to accrue the 6 months of proof in payslips. Am I right in saying there's a grace period of being able to return to the UK alone and apply/look for work above the financial limit? 3 months? It's going to be almost impossible getting work through Skype interviews.

I hope you're doing well wherever you are.

Earning abroad won't count unless you have a firm job offer in UK as well...

Your best bet is to come to UK, find a job or two or three, six months later apply for spouse visa - it won't be refused if there's no skeletons in the cupboard.

Ireland might be fun but it's expensive here and seems the UK and Ireland are working together to block attempts at circumvention of local immigration routes, old Empire still prevails! Ironic that the UK and Ireland's close pre-EU immigration policies came into being to prevent Russian Jewish emigres from heading West escaping persecution. Then a period of rebellion and terrorism, now bosom mates again preventing emigres from the East....

Wanderer wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:39 pm

You can't switch from visit visa plus it's highly unlikely one would be granted anyway - with a spouse in the UK the UKVI assumes the intention will be to plead human rights etc, and apply to remain. Which to be fair is not without justification - it's why the no-switching rule was imposed in the first place.

Seems you like the idea of Ireland, why not just do that and worry about SS possibilities later? Although it's expensive here it's nothing like as stressful as the UK (I'm British BTW) - indeed within 20 mins of driving on the M62 back home I was stressed-out, road-raging - again....

Dublin will mop up all the Brexit flighters jobs etc, can already see it happening, counted over 40 cranes building in the financial district, just have to hope housing etc can keep up, because historically it hasn't, even a room in flat in the City centre is €2000 a month..

sadmanonatrain wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:04 pm

Wanderer wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:39 pm

You can't switch from visit visa plus it's highly unlikely one would be granted anyway - with a spouse in the UK the UKVI assumes the intention will be to plead human rights etc, and apply to remain. Which to be fair is not without justification - it's why the no-switching rule was imposed in the first place.

Seems you like the idea of Ireland, why not just do that and worry about SS possibilities later? Although it's expensive here it's nothing like as stressful as the UK (I'm British BTW) - indeed within 20 mins of driving on the M62 back home I was stressed-out, road-raging - again....

Dublin will mop up all the Brexit flighters jobs etc, can already see it happening, counted over 40 cranes building in the financial district, just have to hope housing etc can keep up, because historically it hasn't, even a room in flat in the City centre is €2000 a month..

Thanks for your time and info man. I heard the rent's pretty expensive in Dublin. But we've experienced Auckland city centre too so I'm not sure.

We're thinking of Ireland as an option more and more tbh. Even if it's been targeted supposedly by officials as a circumvention. Is it legal to be rejected this way? Can you appeal? Are there recent examples on this forum with quoted rejection replies? What can you do to not be rejected? 6 months enough? I remember reading an official UK document with case studies and rejected ones included examples people staying for 3 months in hotels regularly visiting the UK etc etc. Does having a child in the EU country help strengthen your application or weaken it?

The thinking goes that the EU route will officially close in the next few years regardless. Might as well try and see another country while I still have the right (though with Ireland it was always relatively easy like AU-NZ). And due to the worst company policy in history my 4.5 month salaried streak of earnings over the threshold has been broken due to being late once. Losing $240 next pay... Breaking the consecutive chain need to apply under CAT A Salaried. But honestly i have no idea if my work is salaried or non-salaried.

Tell me about Dublin, you sound knowledgeable. I heard there's no sun in winter ..lol.. You also sounded like one could get two jobs and work many many hours a week to meet the UK financial threshold?