Marriage Visa Refuse for 2 times ...help please

[Jovovich]

Dear sir/ ma'am/friends,

I've been refuse 2 times for Marriage visa within 1 month period. Here's my situation ;
I am planning to marriage in UK, my fiancee is EEA (Slovakia). Currently he's working in UK. Our plan is after getting marriage in UK, I'll go to my husband country and apply for PR. But unfortunately, VFS Bangkok refuse my visa application. On my refusal letter stated that I couldn't satisfied them because I can't demonstrated any evidence of any ties that would provide a reason to return back to my home country (Indonesia) at the end of my proposed visit.

I had explained in my statement letter that after marriage in UK, I'll flying to Slovak - UK in multiple visits due to my time frame is limited (visa granted 45 days in Schengen area). I do mention also that I definitely need to go back to my hometown (Indonesia) bcoz We will arrange traditional weeding and since Sept I had resign from my professional job. And by the way I'll stay in Slovakia once my Slovak PR granted. And definetely will going back to Indonesia if my both visa will be expired while Slovak PR not granted yet.


Please help, what kind of evidence I need to give to the VFS? I am getting nervous since all wedding preparation both in UK and my hometown are depending with my UK marriage visa approval.

Really appreciate for your help/suggestions.

[Jovovich]

Help me please

[MPH80]

I'm not really sure what to offer here other than to suggest you reconsider your marriage plans.

Look at it from the point of view of the ECO:

1) You're unemployed
2) You're about to get married to someone, who, once you're married to them means you can remain in the UK permanently (instantly) under EU rules.
3) You have a vague plan about going back and forth between Slovakia and the UK

I'd probably think you were planning to stay in the UK too.

I'd suggest you should get legally married in the fastest way possible in Slovakia or Indonesia. Once you've done that - apply for a family permit to allow you to come to the UK and then use that to return to Slovakia with hubby and get your PR.

[Jovovich]

I'm not really sure what to offer here other than to suggest you reconsider your marriage plans.

Look at it from the point of view of the ECO:

1) You're unemployed
2) You're about to get married to someone, who, once you're married to them means you can remain in the UK permanently (instantly) under EU rules.
3) You have a vague plan about going back and forth between Slovakia and the UK

I'd probably think you were planning to stay in the UK too.

I'd suggest you should get legally married in the fastest way possible in Slovakia or Indonesia. Once you've done that - apply for a family permit to allow you to come to the UK and then use that to return to Slovakia with hubby and get your PR.

Thank you for your advise.
Currently my fiancee is working for 6 months contract in UK which will be end by March 2015. I am definetely will leaving UK and have no plan to reside in UK. I only allowed to stay in Slovak within 45 days in 6 months visa duration and my husband is working in UK, therefore I need multiple entry trips between UK and Slovak. My 1st visit plan to Slovak is to register our marriage certificate. My 2nd visits plan to Slovak is to apply PR in Slovak. For each visits we are plan to stay in Slovak no longer than 7 days. The reason we are planning marriage in UK because I don't want to let him give up with his 6 months contract as a professional and at the same time I could proceed my PR in his country with the visa schengen time frame I got.
I need to going back to my country as well to arrange the 2nd wedding there and will stay for 3 months period. We were plan to hold the 2nd wedding ceremony in my country by end of March 2015 . After that I will going back to Slovakia to reside there.

Previously, there's no letter from my parents state that I will come back home and hold the 2nd wedding ceremony. Do you think it's strong enough if my parents provide a statement letter to guarantee that I'll definetely will flying back to my country? They will attached tittle deed/land ownership certificate and they passport as additional supporting documents?

[MPH80]

So about the only suggestion I can make that *might* increase the chance of you getting the visit visa (given two previous refusals) is evidence of the other plans you have to have.

e.g. showing the bookings you've already made (non-refundable of course!) in your home country for the 2nd wedding ... appointments you've already made in Slovakia on defined dates for immigration appointments etc.

Otherwise you have to look at it from the point of view of the ECO - you can say 'but I'll leave' all you like (and provide all the family evidence you like!) - but you've got nothing booked to go to!

The ECO is starting from an assumption you want to stay and is then saying 'is what this person is saying to me convincing enough to let me believe they are going to leave?'. You simply say 'I will' isn't convincing - particularly not when you are actively coming to marry someone located in the UK. Saying 'I have to because ... and here's the evidence that I have to be here on date X' is better but still no guarantee.

I'd suggest one more go with evidence of definite appointments (not vague 'I will be making an appointment' - but actual appointments booked, confirmed and confirmations printed) for things and evidence of plans already in motion for the 2nd wedding - e.g. venues booked, catering booked etc.