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Fiance Visa and Travel abroad

Post by Pee Wee » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:08 am

Hello,

I am getting married in May 2019. The legal wedding will be in England and the hope is to have the ceremony a few days afterwards in Italy. The intention would then be to fly back to England to get a connecting flight to Asia for the honeymoon.

My finance is a US citizen although currently lives in Spain on a 5 year non working visa.

My question is, assuming we get married while she is on a Finance Visa, will she be allowed to travel to Italy and then to Asia on the same visa?

Thanks

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Re: Fiance Visa and Travel abroad

Post by seagul » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:31 pm

Fiancee visa under uk rule definitely don't provide visa free entitlement to any country including Europe. However, US passport might allow visa free entry but you have to check first especially from that Asian country. Entering Italy on US passport maybe fine.
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Re: Fiance Visa and Travel abroad

Post by Pee Wee » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:19 pm

Apologies, I didn't explain properly.

Her going to Italy or any other country isn't an issue.

My question is, can she return to England under the fiancé visa seeing as we'll be married at that point.

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Re: Fiance Visa and Travel abroad

Post by seagul » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:38 pm

Pee Wee wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:19 pm
Apologies, I didn't explain properly.

Her going to Italy or any other country isn't an issue.

My question is, can she return to England under the fiancé visa seeing as we'll be married at that point.
Yes she can enters. Just explain the airport officers that she is going to extend it into flrm which fiancee visa is also meant for.
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Re: Fiance Visa and Travel abroad

Post by physicskate » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:50 pm

It used to be a bit of a grey area, but is now completely fine (the rule changed 6? months ago). Just mention that you will be applying for FLR(m).

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Re: Fiance Visa and Travel abroad

Post by FXR_1340 » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:42 pm

Its allowed to enter on a Fiance visa when there is no fiance and only a married couple?

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Re: Fiance Visa and Travel abroad

Post by physicskate » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:51 pm

physicskate wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:50 pm
It used to be a bit of a grey area, but is now completely fine (the rule changed 6? months ago). Just mention that you will be applying for FLR(m).
Immigration Directorate Instructions (IDIs) for 5-year route settlement visas which were updated in October 2017, page 46

10.1.2. Granting entry clearance as a fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner
Under paragraph D-ECP.1.1. or D-ECP.1.2., if the applicant meets the requirements for entry clearance as a partner where they are a fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner, they should be granted entry clearance for a period not exceeding 6 months and subject to a condition of no recourse to public funds and to a prohibition on employment in the UK.

The applicant should be advised that they will be eligible to apply for leave to remain in the UK as a partner once the marriage or civil partnership has taken place.

A spouse or civil partner can re-enter the UK following a honeymoon abroad during the remaining validity of their entry clearance as a fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner if they can satisfy the Immigration Officer, in the light of the change in their marital or civil partnership status (which they should evidence with a copy of the marriage or civil partnership certificate), of their intention, within the remaining validity of that entry clearance, to regularise their status in the UK as a spouse or civil partner.

Following the marriage or civil partnership and subject to a subsequent successful application for leave to remain (and in due course for further leave to remain) as a partner on the 5-year or 10-year route, they may be able to qualify for indefinite leave to remain (settlement) after completing 60 months (5 years) or 120 months (10 years) in the UK with limited leave as a partner. The 5-year or 10-year period will exclude any period(s) of entry clearance or limited leave as a fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... rou....pdf

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Re: Fiance Visa and Travel abroad

Post by seagul » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:23 pm

FXR_1340 wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:42 pm
Its allowed to enter on a Fiance visa when there is no fiance and only a married couple?
Fiancee visa doesn't become invalid on marriage rather allow its holder to switch into spouse visa from within uk within 6 months.
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Re: Fiance Visa and Travel abroad

Post by FXR_1340 » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:39 pm

physicskate wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:51 pm
physicskate wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:50 pm
It used to be a bit of a grey area, but is now completely fine (the rule changed 6? months ago). Just mention that you will be applying for FLR(m).
Immigration Directorate Instructions (IDIs) for 5-year route settlement visas which were updated in October 2017, page 46

10.1.2. Granting entry clearance as a fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner
Under paragraph D-ECP.1.1. or D-ECP.1.2., if the applicant meets the requirements for entry clearance as a partner where they are a fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner, they should be granted entry clearance for a period not exceeding 6 months and subject to a condition of no recourse to public funds and to a prohibition on employment in the UK.

The applicant should be advised that they will be eligible to apply for leave to remain in the UK as a partner once the marriage or civil partnership has taken place.

A spouse or civil partner can re-enter the UK following a honeymoon abroad during the remaining validity of their entry clearance as a fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner if they can satisfy the Immigration Officer, in the light of the change in their marital or civil partnership status (which they should evidence with a copy of the marriage or civil partnership certificate), of their intention, within the remaining validity of that entry clearance, to regularise their status in the UK as a spouse or civil partner.

Following the marriage or civil partnership and subject to a subsequent successful application for leave to remain (and in due course for further leave to remain) as a partner on the 5-year or 10-year route, they may be able to qualify for indefinite leave to remain (settlement) after completing 60 months (5 years) or 120 months (10 years) in the UK with limited leave as a partner. The 5-year or 10-year period will exclude any period(s) of entry clearance or limited leave as a fiancé(e) or proposed civil partner.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... rou....pdf
Much clearer and no doubt much more reassuring to the OP.....Cant beat a link and some words from the official website.

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Re: Fiance Visa and Travel abroad

Post by physicskate » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:04 pm

FXR_1340 wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:39 pm

Much clearer and no doubt much more reassuring to the OP.....Cant beat a link and some words from the official website.

Sure - but sometimes it's a bit of a pain to find the quote, when I KNOW the rules, hence why I commented (and why I am a diamond member?).

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