how does the home office find out absences ?

[badmaash]

just say somebody has had long absenses ? on a spouse visa so when time comes for applying for ILR they lose their passport and apply for new passport which is then a brand new passports with no exit amd entry stamps

how would then the home office now if this person left or entered the country ?

[Wanderer]

just say somebody has had long absenses ? on a spouse visa so when time comes for applying for ILR they lose their passport and apply for new passport which is then a brand new passports with no exit amd entry stamps

how would then the home office now if this person left or entered the country ?

Entries are recorded on computer, and I think exits might be now.

[SYH]

just say somebody has had long absenses ? on a spouse visa so when time comes for applying for ILR they lose their passport and apply for new passport which is then a brand new passports with no exit amd entry stamps

how would then the home office now if this person left or entered the country ?

Entries are recorded on computer, and I think exits might be now.

When did this happen???

[Wanderer]

just say somebody has had long absenses ? on a spouse visa so when time comes for applying for ILR they lose their passport and apply for new passport which is then a brand new passports with no exit amd entry stamps

how would then the home office now if this person left or entered the country ?

Entries are recorded on computer, and I think exits might be now.

When did this happen???

Are they not? The guy deffo 'swipes' me in at passport control, and I did read here of some checks on folks leaving, admittedly a leap of faith by me but I've had a Stella.

In fact, in The Fourth Protocol (book or film?) John Preston gets to search the embarkation records on his 286 XT with twin floppy drives. So it must be true.

[SYH]

I dont see them swiping anything, they write a lot

[badmaash]

as somebody could go away and then just lose his passport get a new one and that will have no record of entires unless its in the computer system


so do the exits and entires get recorded ?

[Wanderer]

I'm sure I get swiped at Manchester, I'll make a more positive mental note next time I go to Berlin, s/be two weeks.

[badmaash]

if you have a spouse visa they dont stamp ure visa when you go out of the country but when you come in they give you a entry stamp but the thing is here

1 does a non uk national have to fill in a landing card ?

2 does the home office when processing applications have access to entries and exits its possible they dont have a centralised system ? why all this biometric and id cards then ?

3 so even if they could trace a entry to the uk that means then they would not know how long you were out the uk so even if you were out for say 8 months you can say well i was only out for 2 ?

wait for replies

[badmaash]

as i can see a entry stamp is given when you enter on your passport so for sure that goes in the computer , but as for exits then there is no stamp being put on the passport it seems posibble they dont record exits

as for swiping wanderer do you have uk passport ? they do that to see if passport is genuine thats all but it could be possible that it records the date of arival

but i think not it seems only entries are recorded so its possible for it seems you say your lost your passport and say were out 6 months you could just say i was out for 40 days ?

another quetian just say you have a spouse visa issued 10/10/06
expires 10/10/08 and you enter uk on 25/10/06

that would put you 15 days short of 2 years is this taken into regard ?

would that mean you need to get another visa for certain days ?

[darksquid]

as i can see a entry stamp is given when you enter on your passport so for sure that goes in the computer , but as for exits then there is no stamp being put on the passport it seems posibble they dont record exits

as for swiping wanderer do you have uk passport ? they do that to see if passport is genuine thats all but it could be possible that it records the date of arival

but i think not it seems only entries are recorded so its possible for it seems you say your lost your passport and say were out 6 months you could just say i was out for 40 days ?

Why are alll of your questions about skirting visa requirements and dodging the rules? What you are proposing is LYING. If you are found to have lied on a visa application, the consequences will be disastrous.

You either meet the requirements for a visa, or you don't. If you have been absent for longer than allowed, or if you have claimed benefits, you do not meet the requirements for the visa. Your attempts at dishonesty and grasping at straws have exposed you as the type of immigrant that this country does not need.

[Shan12]

I am pretty certain the Home Office could request proof from you in terms of flight bookings and they could probably request flight manifests from the airlines.

The point is: DON'T LIE!!! You know what the requirements are, so fulfill them.

[avjones]

"but i think not it seems only entries are recorded so its possible for it seems you say your lost your passport and say were out 6 months you could just say i was out for 40 days ? "

Well, it could very well be attempting to obtain leave to enter or remain in the UK by deception. Think 18 months in prison!

Why are you asking so many questions about how to lie, get away with it, and just generally take the piss?

[pantaiema]

any time U enter UK Uneed to fill in landing card is not it ?.
They could trece it from here

[badmaash]

this is a discussion thats all and im not taking the piss

and i would like to say that todays system is a unfair system towards those who are born in the uk if a uk national was to marry abroad as long as the marriage is not bogus then i believe he shud be given priority over europeand and others

as is the case in many other countries priority i think must be given as this system causes hardship to those who are really genuine ?

[Wanderer]

this is a discussion thats all and im not taking the piss

and i would like to say that todays system is a unfair system towards those who are born in the uk if a uk national was to marry abroad as long as the marriage is not bogus then i believe he shud be given priority over europeand and others

as is the case in many other countries priority i think must be given as this system causes hardship to those who are really genuine ?

What are you talking about man, this IS the UK, UK citizens come first, or does everyone have the right to settle here regardless?

I think u r a troll.

[badmaash]

wanderer are you on a stella

who is really the troll

[Wanderer]

wanderer are you on a stella

who is really the troll

No mate, but u r driving me on to it!

You are asking the same questions over and over again in different threads, you seem incapable of using the search function, you're driving everyone mad with your disjointed incessant inane questions without actually telling us what your problem is.

Tell us ur story and we can try to advise. We can all guess you are the person in your 'what if' stories but again, it's shrouded in mystery.

[Wanderer]

Praise be to JAJ, the keeper of the keys to the thread-lock.

Now we have only one thread to try and sort this guys issue on.

[badmaash]

ok guys hold your horses

yes maybe lots of threads was not wise i appologise

but pls take into account of my suggestion of having read only information on each catogry of visa backed with evidence form the sources eg BIA

as that would make things easier for many and stop the specualtion and also repetition

sub forums to for each catogary of visa

so that way it makes serch easier as well , so someone would only go to the board which interest him

as i seen confusion in answers from people
as ilr rules for spouse visa and work permit are different

you get my point
we need to become sub forumers

organisation is the key
what do you think

[paulp]

The information on the landing card is later entered on their computer system and the landing card itself is stored on microfilm for archival. You can see what information is stored on you on their computer system and on microfilm by doing a Subject Access Request (nominal fee of £10).

[busubi]

Read these threads.

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... sc&start=0

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewto ... highlight=

[badmaash]

after reading the following posts it seems to me that the home office staff are playing with peoples emotions and also giving misleading information as some say 2-3 weeks break is the max limit for time out in the uk and some say 90 days and this is bullshit as there is nothing in the legislation stating this im sure something can be done about this ?

why dont people take this up with their local mps ? it may help and also the issue it upto the caseworker seems very unfair as there could be a dearly beloved or memeber of the bnp working on the case and he will outright reject

there has to be clear bold legislation and no upto the caseworker business im sure something can be done and to whom can complaints be put ?

this seems very concerning as the home office staff seem incompetant too and i sure do agree they are arrogant and rude

so we ask almighty god to destory those workers who purposly cause hardship to genuine applicants may he destroy them and cause them severe physical and financial hardship (may god accept my prayers)

[badmaash]

oh sorry thank you busubi for those links


to whom can we put complaints also a good idea would be for the same person to write to the home office in regards to absences and then collet the different replies which will show their incompetance also a few people could do that and as for appeals dont be afraid it can be fought easily as to refuse simply for absences seems to me they dont really have a case a good lawyer could overturn this ?

[darksquid]

so we ask almighty god to destory those workers who purposly cause hardship to genuine applicants may he destroy them and cause them severe physical and financial hardship (may god accept my prayers)

I'm sorry, but this is WAY WAY WAY out of line.

You have got some serious issues...and I wonder if this is the best place for you to find assistance. Calling down hell and damnation upon people doing a difficult and thankless job isn't going to make you any friends or gain you any sympathy.

Again, you are exposing yourself as the type of person this country does not need. Lying, deception, trying to skirt the rules, and now calling for your god to cause 'severe physical hardship'...

[Docterror]

so we ask almighty god to destory those workers who purposly cause hardship to genuine applicants may he destroy them and cause them severe physical and financial hardship (may god accept my prayers)

Somebody stop me!