Posibility of REVOKING OF Irish Citizenship

[martinshuker]

If a person Complete 5 Years Rekonable residency in Ireland on behalf of his British Citizenship and after 5 years he is naturalized as IRISH Citizen .

Later on after he obtained Irish Citizenship .British Govt plan to revoke his British citizenship as they believe that he used False details in one of his immigration application to obtain leave in U.K . in this case Will his Irish Citizenship will also revoked .

Or His Irish Citizenship will not be effected Because at the time he completed his Rekonable residency in Ireland he was A British citizen and so simply he did not used any false representation while obtaining IRISH citizenship he exercised his EU rights regardless his British citizenship was obtained on the false grounds .But the period which was completed as Rekonable residency was on the behalf of British citizenship.

Or

Irish govt will also revoke His Irish Citizenship because they believe that he should not be entitled for British Citizenship on first step and the period which was completed as Rekonable residency was on the behalf of British citizenship which was obtained on false grounds so the time comleted as rekonable in ireland become Invalid .

Please if possible give any case reference or any reference of EU directives .

i understand it is a bit complex question to ask you but hope you will spare some of you time to answer it .

[CalvinKlien]

Man you seems in a pretty dam situation, well technically you have used false information to use your EU treaty rights in Ireland (Not directly but indirectly), in other words you entered Ireland as an EU citizen (which you obtained with mis-leading info).

So if UK revoke your citizenship there are pretty good chances for the same in Ireland......

Do UK authorities your possession of Irish citizenship ?

[janet0001]

This is interesting. First,in acquisition of British citizenship,did u forfeit ur previous nationality like some other citizens? i.e India. In this case,u'll become stateless. In other ways,if u haven't been made stateless yet,as Home office minister is planning on revoking it,after u've been notified,u can start proceeding to give up ur original citizenship.Procedural protection is critical if statelessness is to be avoided.The 1961 convention on the reduction of statelessness,article 8(2) allowed this deprivation,but article 8(4) provide protection although not necessarily statelessness.

U've asked for examples: I'll give u this case; before Justice OUSELEY,Secretary of State Vs Luan Kaziu,Idiot spammer Bakijasi,Dinjan Hysaj. These cases were heard together bcos all were Albanians naturalised as British,claiming to be from Kosovo to gain naturalisation through assylum from 2004-2006.Two lied about their age and one about his name. The Supreme Court ruled in favour nullity. Impersonation of dead man's nationality,fake name,fake dob,place of birth et cetra were too great to ignore.

Since 2006,27 people have had their citizenship revoked in the UK and none in ireland. They wouldn't concern themselves too much with other nationality of urs if they aren't aware of it. U haven't stated the fraud commited in securing leave to remain b4 obtaining British citizenship. My research shows that u're safe for now,but anytime u travel to the UK with an Irish passport,it would raise a flag once they swipe ur passport as it will indicate as 'persona non grata' and they would alert Ireland to this as well.U better calculate ur moves well,and try fighting it with Theresa May.

[CalvinKlien]

But one thing you have to keep in mind that due to the common travel area and common border, UK and Irish immigration authorities really coordinate well with each other. So you have to be very careful with your next move. If UK authorities are not aware of your Irish citizenship NEVER travel on ur Irish passport to the UK......

[dalebutt]

This is very interesting case, what I'd suggest you do is, stay in Ireland, continue your life in Ireland, it is very unlikely that the UK would notify Ireland on revocation decision, if no one has asked you, it is not necessary to divulge anything to anyone, if the Irish ever asked you about this, you will need lay all cards on the table. You will need to thread very carefully onwards.

[martinshuker]

But one thing you have to keep in mind that due to the common travel area and common border, UK and Irish immigration authorities really coordinate well with each other. So you have to be very careful with your next move. If UK authorities are not aware of your Irish citizenship NEVER travel on ur Irish passport to the UK......

Friends thanks for your advise . but to be honest hiding irish citizenchip is not a solution , its very hard to live in fears, more over when things come upto deprivation of citizenship for the issue of being statless your every posiibile citizenship is checked so it is not possible that Irish citizenship will remain unknown.

Is not any legal shield of protection for it ?
for example if a british citizenship is to be revoked on the basis of false represantation but the citizenship of child or spouse of that person is not allowed to be revoked though the spouse or child have obtained british citizenship on the basis of their parent citizenship which is about to be revoked , but they are considerd as COMPLICT mean at the time of obtaining citizenship they havent done any thing wrong .

to my understanding there should must be any provision in europian directives which protect the deprivation of Irish citizenship on the fact that at the time of completing rekonable residency the person was a Europian citizen and on the completion of rekonable period Irish citizenship was obtained so nothing wrong was done in obtaining Irish citizenship .
there will be some court cases for similar senarios , if you know about any of it please share your knowledge .

[dalebutt]

European Law and directives does not extend to issues of citizenship, it is a reserved right, and hence prerogative of member states to set their citizenship law, even though the children were not complicit of anything, it will be said that, if you were not qualified at the time, so would they not have unfortunately, if the children have lived outside of the UK for quite some time, it make the matter even more complicated. You may choose to face your fear now, but I can tell you, it will be long and painful process, you could be on the verge of loosing your residence in both countries.

Irish immigration law will be anything but favourable to you in this case, so will the UK's, given the fact that you have emigrated and broken residence, which may be helpful in the assessment of article 8, and the Irish does not have anything like article 8 nd outside of the rules applications.

[martinshuker]

European Law and directives does not extend to issues of citizenship, it is a reserved right, and hence prerogative of member states to set their citizenship law, even though the children were not complicit of anything, it will be said that, if you were not qualified at the time, so would they not have unfortunately, if the children have lived outside of the UK for quite some time, it make the matter even more complicated. You may choose to face your fear now, but I can tell you, it will be long and painful process, you could be on the verge of loosing your residence in both countries.

Irish immigration law will be anything but favourable to you in this case, so will the UK's, given the fact that you have emigrated and broken residence, which may be helpful in the assessment of article 8, and the Irish does not have anything like article 8 nd outside of the rules applications.

Thanks for advise but i cannot understand what do u exactly mean

(rish immigration law will be anything but favourable to you in this case, so will the UK's, given the fact that you have emigrated and broken residence, which may be helpful in the assessment of article 8, and the Irish does not have anything like article 8 nd outside of the rules applications.)

can u PLZ explain how Irish immigration law will be favourable to me in this case ? is it a good thing to have broken residency which may be helpful in the easement of article 8 ? .

iS There any similar case any one on this forum heard or faced before , Guys it is humble request plz share your knowledge . and if possible can u tell any Solicitor who is typically expert of such cases ONLY . common immigration solicitors dont have much knowledge of such situations they take money even before they decide open their mouth .