Bring girlfriend/Fiancé to live in he UK?

[Jordan29748]

Hello. Title explained most of what this thread is going to be about. I just wanted to ask some questions...

Okay. So we have been dating for quite a while now and we would like to be together permanently. What is this best course of action to do this? She is from Wisconsin and I am from the United Kingdom. We don't know exactly if she will be coming here or if I will be going there or not.

What is the best way to bring her to live in the United Kingdom with me? I am a full Citizen of the United Kingdom. I was born in Wales and have been living in the West Midlands for most of my life. Is it best to bring her here on the spouse visa or is there anything we could do which is better than this? Any information would be highly appreciated. We just want to be together as quickly as possible so if anyone knows the ins and outs of all of these immigration laws, any information provided would be a big help.

If you wish to also tell me ways of going to live there in the United States/Wisconsin with her, feel free to post here but please state you are talking about US Immigration at the top of your reply. If not I will also post in the correct section for immigration to the United States.

We are both currently both 18 and my education status is I am in College studying a 'BTEC Level 3 Extended Diploma' I have finished my first year and will be getting a Distinction * Distinction or a Distinction Distinction. I then have 1 more year. I start again 7th September and finish in June 2016. She is going to be doing Graphics design in college. I have no idea what I want to do after college. I'd go to University but I cannot afford that and I don't want to take out student loans. If you have any suggestions for me getting any further education then please feel free to suggest. I guess I want to do Computer Science at some point but I want to wait until I have that type of money to spend. Is there any career I could get which helps me either immigrate there or bring her here?

We are prepared to get married if that helps bring her here and we know it costs £18500 a year or £25000 in savings to have the finical requirements is that the only best way to bring her here or is there anything better than this? I mean we have done research and didn't think it would be as hard as it seems to bring her here.

Next time she visits which is Christmas we will be seeing each other we plan to have unprotected sex and wouldn't mind if we had a baby. However what would having a baby affect? What citizenship would the baby have one or both US and UK? We could handle having a child. I'd be going there when she is due to give birth and will be staying there for a few months to help with the new born baby but of course I wouldn't be able to stay there for ever unless I managed to get enough money for that and get a 6 month Visa to stay there which again I wouldn't be able to work so I'd probably run out of money and I'd like to help pay for things for the child.

[Wanderer]

You need to earn £18,600pa or have savings of £62,500 or can combine the two.

Having a child will not help the situation and is a pretty irresponsible thing to do at this stage with no solid relationship. Child would be a dual citizen but this does not convey any UK rights to the mother.

[Jordan29748]

We would like to have baby though. I'd make it for the birth and when she has appointments about the pregnancy I guess I could be in a Skype call to still be there with her in a way. Afterwards the plan is I'd be doing an apprenticeship I'd like to do a Web Development one. From what I looked up I'd be getting around £1000 a month.

Now could we do this? She comes here. We get a visitor Visa for 1 year. She can only stay for six months right? We would pay for the visa and I'd rent out a house or flat from what we looked at they'd be £300 - £500 a month, if I am getting £1000 a month I could do this. I'd also save around £3000 before I bring her over. She'd have to go back to Wisconsin after 6 months right? How does it work can she fly home and then back again or does she fly home for some time and then she can come back for another 6 months again.
After that one year has passed. I will have finished the apprenticeship and I'd have 96% chance of going on to full employment which I will be making more than the £18600 per annum so I could then apply for her to come on a spouse visa and then over time have her become a UK Citizen.

After the apprenticeship has finished I'd have the experience and all the other things the apprenticeship gives to help me get a job. If I go for the apprenticeship I could also do more college as well after my course they offer a course titled 'Computing & Software Development HNC/D' I'd get a level 4/5 vocational qualification after it, it will be 1 day of college a week for 2 years. If I finish the apprenticeship after one year and go onto a full time job could I still finish the IT course at college?

If we did this what would we have to do with the baby? It would have dual citizenship right? Can she just fly over with the baby and it will be all good or do we have to do other things too?

[Wanderer]

Rule of thumb is six months in every twelve so no hoping out and in again BUT the sterner test is 'genuine visitor' - if the IO suspects she's not 'visiting' but 'living', and they are good at spotting this, errant letter, tenancy agreement, wrong answer, she'll be bounced and on next plane home.

You know the number one nationality caught doing this? Americans.

Sorry to sound all negative but the only way to do this is the right way, unless your want years of grief and living in limbo. There are no shortcuts, you meet the requirements of you don't, having a kid doesn't strengthen that.

The child would have to either enter on US passport or British passport applied for in USA but would need either or both.

[Casa]

Wanderer has given you sound advice. In order for a visitor visa application to succeed, your girlfriend would have to show strong ties to the US and clear reasons why she would return without overstaying her visa. With a boyfriend in the UK this may be difficult to prove.

[Jordan29748]

We don't want to have a baby because we think it helps bring her to the UK. We genuinely want a child to start a family.

What’s the longest she can stay at a time? She wouldn't be working etc just at home or something. If the plan I suggested doesn't work then all I can do is hope to be with her in the next couple or few years.

I'll be finishing my IT course in June 2016. I could then hopefully apply to loads of Web Developer apprenticeships and I guess once I have done a year to a year and a half of that I would have completed it all and then I have a 96% chance of getting a full time job in Web Development afterwards. The job would then most likely be more than the required.

So if I am making the money required. £18600? What do I do from there would the business I am working for tell me what my annual pay is and as soon as I got that confirmed I can work on getting her a spouse Visa? If we do have a baby will the baby always have dual citizenship or will it change to just British?

It will be a lot to bring her to the UK but since the baby is on dual citizenship it wouldn't be very hard right?

Is there any other way to bring her here other than a spouse Visa?

[Jordan29748]

Wanderer has given you sound advice. In order for a visitor visa application, your girlfriend would have to show strong ties to the US and clear reasons why she would return without overstaying her visa. With a boyfriend in the UK this may be difficult to prove.

Yeah I don't wanna abuse the vistor Visa she will return. I couldn't risk getting in trouble with that don't want her getting blocked from the country or whatever it is they do.

We just want to be together for a nice period of time.

[Casa]

It's not about what you want. The challenge will be in convincing the Entry Clearance Officer that she will return without overstaying. Does she own property in the US, or study in a University, have family who are dependent on her? These are ties the ECO will look for.

[Jordan29748]

Right we have decided that it is best for us to wait a little longer before attempting to have a child.

Yes she will be in college. She starts college in September again she is doing some graphics course. She will be visiting at Christmas for a couple weeks or a few depending on if we both feel like ditching off a week of college because we both most likely will only have 2 weeks of college holiday.

I'll probably be going to visit her in summer 2016 like around June. I'll be finished with college then. I'd like to visit as long as possible. Do I need a Visa if I plan to visit for a few months?

After I finish college in 2016 I will either be going to University or get an apprenticeship. Which would you suggest? Doing an apprenticeship? I'd like to do Web Development I like that sort of IT don't want to be a phone technician to be honest it just doesn't interest me. Anything involving programming sounds like a fun job to me. If not an apprenticeship I do want to go to University to study Computer Science at some point however I'm not exactly made of money I cannot afford it and I don't want to use student loans and then go into debt. What would you guys recommend me doing if I want to bring her here to live in the UK?

Best way to bring her here in the future? She's got diplomas for IT already and she's going back to college to do computer graphics. Will she be able to use those to come here on a work Visa or is it just better to wait until I am making the £18600 yearly wages requirement and get her here on a spouse Visa?