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With UK 8 months salary Can I Apply for HSMP?

Post by srinivasd » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:26 pm

HI All,

I came to UK on February 2007 on company workpermit. My company is paying UK salary. Now I would like to apply for HSMP. I've got the following queries

1. Can I apply for HSMP in the next month November by showing salary slips starting from Feb to October? At present Im getting eligible points by calculating 12 months(ie Feb/2007 - Jan/2008) salary only, not with 8 months.

2. Can I claim UK work experience 5 points for the above specified period?

Advance Thanks,
Regards,
Srini.

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Post by SYH » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:51 pm

You can not anticipate your income. You can only declare the income of the 8 months you have received and claim the points from that group accordingly

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Post by gordon » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:23 pm

While the applicant cannot apply based on anticipated earnings, he might apply using his nine-months' earnings (Feb07-Oct07) prorated to its 12-month equivalent, so long as he provides full earnings evidence covering Nov06-Jan07. If the caseworker grants the earnings points based on the UK earnings, then the further five points for UK experience should apply as well. AG

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Post by SYH » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:36 pm

gordon wrote:While the applicant cannot apply based on anticipated earnings, he might apply using his nine-months' earnings (Feb07-Oct07) prorated to its 12-month equivalent, so long as he provides full earnings evidence covering Nov06-Jan07. If the caseworker grants the earnings points based on the UK earnings, then the further five points for UK experience should apply as well. AG
What you wrote doesn't really make sense
"prorate to its 12 month equivalent" He doesn't prorate anything, he simply adds what he gots. And what are you talking about provides earnings covering Nov06 to Jan 07. Why would he be providing earnings for that period? If you meant nov 07 to jan 08, then he has to wait until Jan 08. They are not going to give him credit for a what might be

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Post by gordon » Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:08 pm

He wants to apply in Nov07. So his claimed earnings period can be Nov06-Oct07. Out of that period, he was outside the UK Nov06-Jan07 (3 months) and in the UK Feb07-Oct07 (9 months). He says that he can't apply with the level of earnings in the UK thus far, so the next question to ask is whether he would be eligible for the requisite earnings points if he were to prorate his 9 months of UK earnings to its 12-month equivalent, which he could do if he has lived and worked in more than one country during the claimed earnings period. If yes, he would still have to provide earnings evidence for the full period, ie Nov06-Oct07, hence my note on the need for earnings evidence from Nov06-Jan07, from outside the UK. See para 41 in the guidance notes from Aug07.

So no, I did not mean Nov07-Jan08 for the additional evidence. If that's what I'd meant, I'd not have written Nov06-Jan07.
SYH wrote:What you wrote doesn't really make sense
"prorate to its 12 month equivalent" He doesn't prorate anything, he simply adds what he gots. And what are you talking about provides earnings covering Nov06 to Jan 07. Why would he be providing earnings for that period? If you meant nov 07 to jan 08, then he has to wait until Jan 08. They are not going to give him credit for a what might be

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Post by SYH » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:33 am

gordon wrote:He wants to apply in Nov07. So his claimed earnings period can be Nov06-Oct07. Out of that period, he was outside the UK Nov06-Jan07 (3 months) and in the UK Feb07-Oct07 (9 months). He says that he can't apply with the level of earnings in the UK thus far, so the next question to ask is whether he would be eligible for the requisite earnings points if he were to prorate his 9 months of UK earnings to its 12-month equivalent, which he could do if he has lived and worked in more than one country during the claimed earnings period. If yes, he would still have to provide earnings evidence for the full period, ie Nov06-Oct07, hence my note on the need for earnings evidence from Nov06-Jan07, from outside the UK. See para 41 in the guidance notes from Aug07.

So no, I did not mean Nov07-Jan08 for the additional evidence. If that's what I'd meant, I'd not have written Nov06-Jan07.
As he didn't mention any earnings from Nov 06 to Jan 07, It appears to me he had no intention to include in his appliction and it would have been presumptous to have done so. Now that you explain your thinking it makes sense but it didn't orginally based on the information the OP had given.

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Post by gordon » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:18 pm

Well, I won't presume to know what the OP's intentions were; I had merely suggested the pro-rata earnings approach, which, if he chose to pursue it, would entail documenting his Nov06-Jan07 earnings from abroad. It was merely a suggestion, an attempt to provide a constructive alternative. Do please forgive me if my doing so was 'presumptous [sic]'.
SYH wrote:As he didn't mention any earnings from Nov 06 to Jan 07, It appears to me he had no intention to include in his appliction and it would have been presumptous to have done so. Now that you explain your thinking it makes sense but it didn't orginally based on the information the OP had given.

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Post by srinivasd » Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:26 pm

Hi Gordon & Syh,

Thanks for your valuable information.

Regards,
Srini.
gordon wrote:Well, I won't presume to know what the OP's intentions were; I had merely suggested the pro-rata earnings approach, which, if he chose to pursue it, would entail documenting his Nov06-Jan07 earnings from abroad. It was merely a suggestion, an attempt to provide a constructive alternative. Do please forgive me if my doing so was 'presumptous [sic]'.
SYH wrote:As he didn't mention any earnings from Nov 06 to Jan 07, It appears to me he had no intention to include in his appliction and it would have been presumptous to have done so. Now that you explain your thinking it makes sense but it didn't orginally based on the information the OP had given.

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Re: With UK 8 months salary Can I Apply for HSMP?

Post by pantaiema » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:37 pm

Yes U can given that
- the 8 moanths of the salary U have claimed fall into 12 consecutives months.
- U can not prorata your salary. The amount that U could claim is just the sum of the 8 months of your salary (no prorata is allowed). This is the main disadvantage if U just apply with 8 months salary.


srinivasd wrote:HI All,

I came to UK on February 2007 on company workpermit. My company is paying UK salary. Now I would like to apply for HSMP. I've got the following queries

1. Can I apply for HSMP in the next month November by showing salary slips starting from Feb to October? At present Im getting eligible points by calculating 12 months(ie Feb/2007 - Jan/2008) salary only, not with 8 months.

2. Can I claim UK work experience 5 points for the above specified period?

Advance Thanks,
Regards,
Srini.
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Post by hsmp2010 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:02 pm

There is no restriction in HSMP rules that u must give salary details of one year. its just a limit that maximum u can give one year salary. minimum is no limits. if ur 8 months salary give u enough points to make 75 points for qualification of HSMP, then they will grant u HSMP.

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