ILR submission without pay slips ?

[Malik44]

@casa the wording you posted is HMRC guideline not UKBA.
Home office has its own policies to check the Income look into the following case
http://www.immigrationboards.com/indefi ... 06748.html
employers are in these days trying to save taxs and NI and this is the only reason they don't declare income to HMRC.
the problem in OP case is he need to show income to Home Office not to HMRC.

[Casa]

@casa the wording you posted is HMRC guideline not UKBA.
Home office has its own policies to check the Income look into the following case
http://www.immigrationboards.com/indefi ... 06748.html
employers are in these days trying to save taxs and NI and this is the only reason they don't declare income to HMRC.
the problem in OP case is he need to show income to Home Office not to HMRC.

I'm fully aware that it is HMRC guidelines. You're mistaken if you think this won't be cross-checked between Gov departments. The HO will want to see a clean tax account with HMRC.

[Malik44]

OP just need to considered these points
FIRST STEP : He should try to get his all payslips and p-60 from employer if employer refused to give him payslips and p-60 he should seek advice from accountant.
he has already contract of employment and Net Amount in his bank account and PAYE reference on 2014-15 p-60. what his accountant do just simple run accountancy software and generate new payslips and p-60 and handed over to OP.

SECOND STEP
OP need to ask his accountant to file self assessment including his Employment Income and Self Employment income via online. when his accountant do self assessment his employment income automatically come into hmrc record. discrepancies automatically goes against his current employer account and HMRC will start chasing them automatically which they deserve as they are playing people career.
Third step
OP accountant need to declare his self employment income and employment income on accountant letter
and also produced his self employment business accounts , Invoices , etc and OP also need UTR Letter and NI contribution letter.

take all those above documents and get your visa.

@AJAY009 take my advice to your accountant.
This is the safest procedure in which your income comes up in HMRC record and your employer penalized by HMRC automatically once your accountant declare your income on SA hmrc

[Wanderer]

OP just need to considered these points
FIRST STEP : He should try to get his all payslips and p-60 from employer if employer refused to give him payslips and p-60 he should seek advice from accountant.
he has already contract of employment and Net Amount in his bank account and PAYE reference on 2014-15 p-60. what his accountant do just simple run accountancy software and generate new payslips and p-60 and handed over to OP.

SECOND STEP
OP need to ask his accountant to file self assessment including his Employment Income and Self Employment income via online. when his accountant do self assessment his employment income automatically come into hmrc record. discrepancies automatically goes against his current employer account and HMRC will start chasing them automatically which they deserve as they are playing people career.
Third step
OP accountant need to declare his self employment income and employment income on accountant letter
and also produced his self employment business accounts , Invoices , etc and OP also need UTR Letter and NI contribution letter.

take all those above documents and get your visa.

@AJAY009 take my advice to your accountant.
This is the safest procedure in which your income comes up in HMRC record and your employer penalized by HMRC automatically once your accountant declare your income on SA hmrc

Are you suggesting the OP falsifies his employers payslips?

[Ajay009]

OP just need to considered these points
FIRST STEP : He should try to get his all payslips and p-60 from employer if employer refused to give him payslips and p-60 he should seek advice from accountant.
he has already contract of employment and Net Amount in his bank account and PAYE reference on 2014-15 p-60. what his accountant do just simple run accountancy software and generate new payslips and p-60 and handed over to OP.

SECOND STEP
OP need to ask his accountant to file self assessment including his Employment Income and Self Employment income via online. when his accountant do self assessment his employment income automatically come into hmrc record. discrepancies automatically goes against his current employer account and HMRC will start chasing them automatically which they deserve as they are playing people career.
Third step
OP accountant need to declare his self employment income and employment income on accountant letter
and also produced his self employment business accounts , Invoices , etc and OP also need UTR Letter and NI contribution letter.

take all those above documents and get your visa.

@AJAY009 take my advice to your accountant.
This is the safest procedure in which your income comes up in HMRC record and your employer penalized by HMRC automatically once your accountant declare your income on SA hmrc

Thank you malik for your huge information and suggestion.

My accountant suggested me second option which you said, but still i have some hope in getting payslips from my employer, that's what i'm waiting for. My visa expires in may-31, Will that helpful if I contact UKBA to take actions quickly instead of complaining to HMRC or others which takes longer ?

Another question is, in this kind of situation shall I prefer to post my application or prefer Premium service ? I have one dependent(my wife) as-well.

[Malik44]

My accountant suggested me second option which you said, but still i have some hope in getting payslips from my employer, that's what i'm waiting for. My visa expires in may-31, Will that helpful if I contact UKBA to take actions quickly instead of complaining to HMRC or others which takes longer ?

Another question is, in this kind of situation shall I prefer to post my application or prefer Premium service ? I have one dependent(my wife) as-well.

I dont think so you should inform to UKBA its purely HMRC matter

Are you suggesting the OP falsifies his employers payslips?

No Op has genuine employment income and generating new payslips against that income not fraud. he has no any other option anyways except do this otherwise UKBA simply refuse him and he is might getting further suggestions here later on

[Casa]

My accountant suggested me second option which you said, but still i have some hope in getting payslips from my employer, that's what i'm waiting for. My visa expires in may-31, Will that helpful if I contact UKBA to take actions quickly instead of complaining to HMRC or others which takes longer ?

Another question is, in this kind of situation shall I prefer to post my application or prefer Premium service ? I have one dependent(my wife) as-well.

I dont think so you should inform to UKBA its purely HMRC matter

Are you suggesting the OP falsifies his employers payslips?

No Op has genuine employment income and generating new payslips against that income not fraud. he has no any other option anyways except do this otherwise UKBA simply refuse him and he is might getting further suggestions here later on

So how do you propose the OPs accountant generates payslips in the employer's name?

Apply by post. If you apply in person you will be asked to complete a form stating whether all your tax matters are in order. If you state the truth (which of course you must do), the application will be deferred for further checks. Your wife's application will depend on the success of yours.

[Wanderer]

My accountant suggested me second option which you said, but still i have some hope in getting payslips from my employer, that's what i'm waiting for. My visa expires in may-31, Will that helpful if I contact UKBA to take actions quickly instead of complaining to HMRC or others which takes longer ?

Another question is, in this kind of situation shall I prefer to post my application or prefer Premium service ? I have one dependent(my wife) as-well.

I dont think so you should inform to UKBA its purely HMRC matter

Are you suggesting the OP falsifies his employers payslips?

No Op has genuine employment income and generating new payslips against that income not fraud. he has no any other option anyways except do this otherwise UKBA simply refuse him and he is might getting further suggestions here later on

Of course it's fraud! Printing off payslips like this to masquerade as genuine ones is fraud.

So glad your not my accountant.

[Malik44]

Apply by post. If you apply in person you will be asked to complete a form stating whether all your tax matters are in order. If you state the truth (which of course you must do), the application will be deferred for further checks. Your wife's application will depend on the success of yours.

OP just need to considered these points
SECOND STEP
OP need to ask his accountant to file self assessment including his Employment Income and Self Employment income via online. when his accountant do self assessment his employment income automatically come into hmrc record.

[Ajay009]

I don't want to ask my accountant to generate payslips.

Thank you casa and malik.

[Malik44]

I don't want to ask my accountant to generate payslips.

Thank you casa and malik.

thats what i wrote earlier you should ask your employer first

[nethu82]

Hi
If you were self employed in company capacity then submit self tax return and get sa302.

[geriatrix]

thats what i wrote earlier you should ask your employer first

What you actually wrote was that the OP should check with employer first but if employer doesn't issue payslips then the accountant can run the payroll software and generate payslips.

OP just need to considered these points
FIRST STEP : He should try to get his all payslips and p-60 from employer if employer refused to give him payslips and p-60 he should seek advice from accountant.
he has already contract of employment and Net Amount in his bank account and PAYE reference on 2014-15 p-60. what his accountant do just simple run accountancy software and generate new payslips and p-60 and handed over to OP.

[Malik44]

Yes griatrix I advice him to first sort out this issue with employer. He is genuine employee and working for this employer since last year I believe bcz he has last year P-60 from this company.
If they don't help him and play doggy with him then he should have to look himself first otherwise he will be in solicitors and accountants hands with heavy fees and stress later on.

[geriatrix]

then he should have to look himself first

and commit fraud?? So that he may find himself in even more serious trouble!
Wow!!

[Malik44]

Fraud ? Where is fraud op work for that company and his company paying his salary on his bank and he also has employment contract. It would be fraud if op don't work for that company and make false payslips that is the definition of fraud .

[Malik44]

If one go into bank for getting second bank statement is that would be considered fraud?

[Wanderer]

If one go into bank for getting second bank statement is that would be considered fraud?

Not the same thing at all. It would be if I printed my own version on my HP Inkjet. Geddit? Fraud. But not an official copy from the bank. Geddit? Not fraud.

[geriatrix]

Looks like you don't even understand what you are yourself writing!!
Explain to us all ignorant souls here what you mean by the statement highlighted in blue below:

OP just need to considered these points
FIRST STEP : He should try to get his all payslips and p-60 from employer if employer refused to give him payslips and p-60 he should seek advice from accountant.
he has already contract of employment and Net Amount in his bank account and PAYE reference on 2014-15 p-60. what his accountant do just simple run accountancy software and generate new payslips and p-60 and handed over to OP.

[Wanderer]

Fraud ? Where is fraud op work for that company and his company paying his salary on his bank and he also has employment contract. It would be fraud if op don't work for that company and make false payslips that is the definition of fraud .

So by your definition it's ok for me to print my own money if I don't get paid on time.

[Malik44]

Gereatrix you take it my advice in wrong way if you feel I am wrong I apologise and request you to please delete my messages.

[Ajay009]

I'm going to wait for reply from my employer till tomorrow, If they can't pay tax to hmrc & refuse to provide pay-slips to me, whom shall I contact for to take immediate actions on employer in legal procedure. UKBA or Employee tribunal ?

So far i'm trying to go in legal way to get pay slips & P60 by discussing the situation with my employer and what they made so far & it's going on.

[Casa]

It may be wise to read this thread:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/indefi ... 07970.html

[HarryJones]

Almost 50 responses now.
We always claim that we are not tax experts here on this forum and hence cannot comment on tax related issues.
are we fair to others?

[noajthan]

Almost 50 responses now.
We always claim that we are not tax experts here on this forum and hence cannot comment on tax related issues.
are we fair to others?

There is precious little tax-related advice in the above. Lot of argy bargy though. Could be time to wrap it up.