Amnesty for illegal immigrants over 12years

[violet26]

I dont know if this has been discussed before or if anybody knows anything more. Ive just heard Boris Johnson on the news saying he supports an amnesty for non EU illegal immigrants who have been here for longer than 12 years. Can anyone give any more info, is it possible??

[Casa]

It might well be on BJ's wish list but that doesn't mean it will happen while David Cameron is PM.

[violet26]

Its a possibilty though and you never know what David Cameron will do if we leave, hopefully he will. An amnesty sounds to make like sense after reading more about what Boris Johnson wants i agree with him;

And, yes, let us take back control of our borders with a sensible, fair and impartial system. And let me take on this issue absolutely directly. Because I am pro-immigration, my friends. I am the proud descendent of Turkish immigrants. And let me stun you, perhaps, by saying I would go further. I am not only pro-immigration, I’m pro-immigrants, but I am in favour of an amnesty for illegal immigrants who have been here for more than 12 years, unable to contribute to this economy, unable to pay taxes, unable to take proper part in society. And I will tell you why: because it is the humane thing to do. It is the economically rational thing do to. And it means taking back control of a system that is at the moment completely out of control.

And if we take back control of our immigration system with an Australian-style points-based system, you will be dealing fairly and justly with every part of the world, and you will be neutralising people in this country and across Europe who wish to play politics with immigration and who are opposed to immigrants. And that is the way forward, to neutralise the extremists by taking back control of our immigration system.

[Casa]

Its a possibilty though and you never know what David Cameron will do if we leave, hopefully he will. An amnesty sounds to make like sense after reading more about what Boris Johnson wants i agree with him;

And, yes, let us take back control of our borders with a sensible, fair and impartial system. And let me take on this issue absolutely directly. Because I am pro-immigration, my friends. I am the proud descendent of Turkish immigrants. And let me stun you, perhaps, by saying I would go further. I am not only pro-immigration, I’m pro-immigrants, but I am in favour of an amnesty for illegal immigrants who have been here for more than 12 years, unable to contribute to this economy, unable to pay taxes, unable to take proper part in society. And I will tell you why: because it is the humane thing to do. It is the economically rational thing do to. And it means taking back control of a system that is at the moment completely out of control.

And if we take back control of our immigration system with an Australian-style points-based system, you will be dealing fairly and justly with every part of the world, and you will be neutralising people in this country and across Europe who wish to play politics with immigration and who are opposed to immigrants. And that is the way forward, to neutralise the extremists by taking back control of our immigration system.

For anyone who may be confused, the passage in bold is from a speech by Boris, not violet26

[1kiril]

I personally don't think people who have been breaking the law for 12 years should be rewarded for it. No way!

[dapto10]

It's a gimmick.

Boris Johnson can not be trusted on anything. He makes up stuff on the go, simply put, he claims things that are not true or not entirely true, especially on platforms because nobody can challenge him there. He would never say this in an interview or in front of a TV audience because the journalists or members of the audience will ask additional questions.

It's easier to claim things on a platform with an audience that has come to cheer you and will agree with everything you say. He's talking nonsense, sadly... and (again) playing with people's hopes and fears. And these are REAL people's lives we're talking about. He knows there can't be amnesty at current stage and in the near or not so near future for various reaons and still plays on people's hopes and fears.

Boris Johnson is a joke.

[mkhan2525]

I remember reading a similar article somewhere a few years ago where Boris said the same thing only the figure was 10 years and not 12.

So yes I would take anything Boris says with a pinch of salt.

It's unlikely Cameron will relax the immigration rules for non-eu citizens after the referendum. Only last month I heard there was a leaflet doing the rounds in conservative controlled areas asking them to vote remain and stop non-eu family members coming to the the UK.

[violet26]

He did say it in front of a TV audience, it was on the news!!!

[CR001]

He did say it in front of a TV audience, it was on the news!!!

He has only spoken about it, nothing is set to become part of the rules. Makes no difference where or how he said. HO have removed the 14 year ILR route for migrants that had no legal status etc, it is highly unlikely that they will reintroduce something similar along the same lines. There are already other applications that such migrants can make to legalise their stay.

[violet26]

Such as??? there are no other options really....

[CR001]

Well it depends on your circumstances and you should ask such questions in the relevant sub-forum.

[violet26]

I have done before and not got much help or response really, ive tried a couple of times on this site and not really got very far x

[CR001]

You have previously posted about Ireland and the Surinder Singh route and been given sound advice. Might not be what you want to hear but it has been good, solid advice. Anything you do is going to require some effort and work, it is not easy, especially for a migrant with now status.

[noajthan]

I have done before and not got much help or response really, ive tried a couple of times on this site and not really got very far x

BJ is not in a position to deliver any such thing and not likely to be in near future.

The only person who knows what goes on in BJ's mind is BJ himself:
http://www.parliament.uk/biographies/co ... hnson/1423

[Obie]

Borris Johnson is just being Boris Johnson. A clawn . A dearly beloved seeking to be normal.

[jammy101]

So now UK will leave EU will it affect illegals? would they get amnesty for example?

[Casa]

So now UK will leave EU will it affect illegals? would they get amnesty for example?

Brexit doesn't change anything for those who are here illegally. Although in the future it may give the UK freer rein on returning those without valid leave.

[Wanderer]

So now UK will leave EU will it affect illegals? would they get amnesty for example?

More likely to be put up against a wall and shot.

I'm still in shock!

[Casa]

So now UK will leave EU will it affect illegals? would they get amnesty for example?

More likely to be put up against a wall and shot.

I'm still in shock!

For anyone who may be concerned, this is Wanderer's black humour.
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/diction ... ack-humour

[secret.simon]

Which sentence contains the black humour, the first or the second?

[Casa]

Which sentence contains the black humour, the first or the second?

Knowing Wanderer...probably both.

[1kiril]

It means that they are still illegal and not welcome here.

[rooibos]

So now UK will leave EU will it affect illegals? would they get amnesty for example?

More likely to be put up against a wall and shot.

I'm still in shock!

For anyone who may be concerned, this is Wanderer's black humour.
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/diction ... ack-humour

That's dearly beloved!

[Casa]

Which is why I posted a link to avoid a similar comment.

[sami123]

there will be amnesty for illegal immigration as Boris Johnson said when he was mayor of london and also said
when he was compaigning for leave EU i hope he will be prime minister to solve your problem because i voted to leave EU to be fair there is lot of people here in uk understand me
thanks