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hari15
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Post by hari15 » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:23 pm

drjabberwocky23 wrote:
hari15 wrote:What if they find the reason for the early application as a way to cheat home office? If they reject on that basis wont it affect future application?
That's what I'm worried about, Hari.

Eventhough my points tally would qualify me now and in a years time....unless the rules change for the worse (i.e. the nightmare scenario that I'm trying to avoid).

Hi drjabberwocky23

Even I am in the same boat as you. I am now qualifying for Extension just in border, even slight worser side will disqualify me.

But dont worry even in that worst secenario we can over come if our employer is really supportive.

If we are short of 1000£ to 3000£ income that can be informed to the company, that can be earned by Overtime work / Bonus if our company supports us. Overtimes are counted for income

Even if that is not possible we can switch to work permit ( I hope transitional arrangements will be there)

The most most worst case is loosing the job itself. Because even a one month break in job will proove fatal now. Until we are in some job, I think there are more chances to overcome this change in rule issue

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Post by herts » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:31 pm

drjab, are you claiming points for age ?

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Post by drjabberwocky23 » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:55 pm

herts wrote:drjab, are you claiming points for age ?
I am, yes.

At the moment, I score as follows:

Degree - 35 points
Age - 20 points
UK Experience - 5 points
Earnings - 40 points

That gives me a 100 points now. If the points system is the same in 2009 as it is now, then I will score the same, and possibly slightly more if my earnings increase. I will still be 27 or under at the time of re-application...

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Post by drjabberwocky23 » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:58 pm

Hari - agreed that a supportive employer is a god-send! Sadly, I don't think that the NHS is all that supportive! :(

hari15
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Post by hari15 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:34 am

drjabberwocky23 wrote:
herts wrote:drjab, are you claiming points for age ?
I am, yes.

At the moment, I score as follows:

Degree - 35 points
Age - 20 points
UK Experience - 5 points
Earnings - 40 points

That gives me a 100 points now. If the points system is the same in 2009 as it is now, then I will score the same, and possibly slightly more if my earnings increase. I will still be 27 or under at the time of re-application...

Hi drjabberwocky23,
If this the case you no need to worry at all regarding points. Now itself you are having 100 points, even if the rules changes for worser side it is highly unlikly for you to get below 75

Also since your Age point will remain the same even at original time of expiry, you are more safe regarding points

I am getting exactly 75 points now. even a slight worser change will affect me

The only thing you should be worried is securing that job till the time of extension if you feel that your job is permenant and secured I think you no need to worry at all

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Post by hari15 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:06 am

In the caseworker guidance I saw the below line

What does this mean? Are they considering / not considering earlier applications?

Please see all caseworker guidelines at

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco ... rguidance/


Whilst an application should normally only be submitted no earlier than five weeks before the expiry of an applicant’s current leave as a Highly Skilled Migrant, any applications submitted earlier than this must, subject to validation, be considered against the appropriate Immigration Rules

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Post by drjabberwocky23 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:46 pm

hari15 wrote:In the caseworker guidance I saw the below line

What does this mean? Are they considering / not considering earlier applications?

Please see all caseworker guidelines at

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/siteco ... rguidance/


Whilst an application should normally only be submitted no earlier than five weeks before the expiry of an applicant’s current leave as a Highly Skilled Migrant, any applications submitted earlier than this must, subject to validation, be considered against the appropriate Immigration Rules
I think that means that the vast majority of applications will only be considered within that 5 week window, though any extenuating circumstances will be taken into consideration if an application is submitted earlier.

Basically - no different to what everyone else has said!

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Post by hari15 » Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:50 pm

I mailed HO asking whether can I apply early for extension if I qualify.

Below was the reply

We recommend that you apply 5 weeks before your existing leave expires, however if you were to submit an application earlier than that, we will consider it.

What I inferred is Once when payment is accepted by home office after initial validation, they have only two options Accept / Reject. They cant return the application.

And as of now as per law they cant refuse based on early application, they can refuse only on the ground of points / english / forgery or other criminal records

Hence no need worry about rejection in early application if we are strong on other grounds

Only thing what we must be prepared is they may issue extension from the date of our application there is more than 90% chances for this. In that case many has to again apply for extension

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