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Traveling on expired EEA FP - American

Post by maggie304 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 1:29 pm

Hello All,
I am an American citizen and am currently living in the UK on an EEA Family Permit (Unmarried partner) with my partner. The FP expired in July and I've applied for a residence card and received the COA. I am planning to request my passport back and would like to travel to United States for about a week. Does anyone know if I will have issues re-entering? My family permit is expired, but I do have my COA and also americans do not need a visa to enter the UK. I am currently working so need to retain my right to work and live here.
Thanks!

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Re: Traveling on expired EEA FP - American

Post by Richard W » Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:33 pm

Legally, the situation looks bleak until you receive your RC. For the bulk of this post I will assume that the relevant position of extended family members is determined by Regulation 7(3) of the EEA Regulations:
Subject to paragraph (4), a person who is an extended family member and has been issued with an EEA family permit, a registration certificate or a residence card shall be treated as the family member of the relevant EEA national for as long as he continues to satisfy the conditions in regulation 8(2), (3), (4) or (5) in relation to that EEA national and the permit, certificate or card has not ceased to be valid or been revoked.
Your problem is that the FP has expired and you have not yet been issued with a residence card - or a new family permit.

Now there are two pieces of law that may contradict the paragraph I quoted. Firstly, there is a widespread belief, possibly ill-founded, that the principles of Section 3C of the Immigration Act 1971 apply to extended family members, and so anything resembling a permission should continue while you are in the UK waiting for the decision of an application. If your CoA confirmed your right to work, that would support the idea. Note, however, that such a continuation ceases if one leaves the UK, so even Section 3C is of no assistance for the return from your trip to the US.

Secondly, there is Article 25(1) of Directive 2004/38/EC:
Possession of a registration certificate as referred to in Article 8, of a document certifying permanent residence, of a certificate attesting submission of an application for a family member residence card, of a residence card or of a permanent residence card, may under no circumstances be made a precondition for the exercise of a right or the completion of an administrative formality, as entitlement to rights may be attested by any other means of proof.
This appears to contradict EEA Regulation 7(3), which says you no longer have the right to be treated as a family member. On the other hand, it might be arguable that your claim to be a durable partner cannot be assessed by anyone but an agent of the government, so the premiss of that part of the article is wrong.

If Regulation 7(3) is indeed the law (case law may have overridden it), then a number of problems arise:

(1) My reading of the Immigration Act 2016 says it is illegal for your to work until you get your RC. This is based on the assumption that someone who has no right to stay in the UK under the EEA Regulations, but entered under them, 'needs leave to remain' in the legal sense of the words. This law has no explicit exemption for EEA nationals, who it seems in some cases might breach it by working but not enough to thereby be a 'worker' and therefore legal. The CoA may have given your employer a statutory excuse, but you are breaking the law and your earnings since the card expired (or 12 July, if later) may be confiscated as the 'proceeds of crime'. He is also criminally liable if he knows you are an extended family member.

(2) You cannot turn up at the British border (e.g. at Heathrow) and demand admittance as the family member of an EEA national who is a qualified person. You have no right to be treated as a family member. (There might be an obscure loophole that allows you to apply for a family permit at the airport, but I have no confidence that it exists.)

At present, you only have a right to reside in the UK if you are the (extended) family member of a qualified person. As this has not yet been fully conceded by the Home Office, they may retain your US passport until an RC is issued - or they decide to remove you from the UK. The US consulate in the UK are aware that the Home Office is aware, and we have heard that they will issue a second US passport in circumstances like this. I believe this last problem looms whatever the law on your status actually is.

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Re: Traveling on expired EEA FP - American

Post by noajthan » Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:58 pm

As your FP has expired its likely that you, as an EFM, won't even get your passport back from HO.

If you do, why not just get another FP or wait for your RC.

Similar case:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-ro ... 14749.html
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Re: Traveling on expired EEA FP - American

Post by maggie304 » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:34 am

Thanks for the responses. I definitely have right to work - the COA states that I can work so I'm not worried about that (and am certainly not breaking the law by doing so). I'm more concerned about not being allowed back in the UK with the same status and it's very unclear what the policy is. I appreciate the advice, but I cannot apply for another FP b/c the UKVI has all my proof documents plus you need to do it outside the UK and I cannot spend 3 weeks away. I guess I'm best off just staying and not traveling until I get my RC.

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EEA EFM Residence Card - Any way to expedite?

Post by maggie304 » Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:10 pm

Hi All,
Yesterday I posted this thread regarding traveling back to the US on an expired EEA Family Permit while my RC is being processed.
http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-ro ... 14796.html

It seems like this may not be possible without losing my right to work in the UK. As a result, I was wondering if any knows of any way to expedite the decision process. Willing to pay, go in person, do whatever it takes! I need my passport and ability to travel and return asap!

Thanks!

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Re: Traveling on expired EEA FP - American

Post by noajthan » Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:26 pm

Posts merged.
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Re: Traveling on expired EEA FP - American

Post by Richard W » Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:44 pm

Richard W wrote:This is based on the assumption that someone who has no right to stay in the UK under the EEA Regulations, but entered under them, 'needs leave to remain' in the legal sense of the words.
This should not have been an assumption - it's Schedule 2 Regulation 1(1) of the EEA Regulations. I take some consolation from the fact that someone thought it needed to be stated.
maggie304 wrote:I definitely have right to work - the COA states that I can work so I'm not worried about that (and am certainly not breaking the law by doing so).
If we could be sure of that, we might be able to uncover a practical right of return from the USA - as opposed to the various unlawful ways that immediately spring to mind.

I presume you are relying on wording on the CoA very similar to
You are permitted to accept offers of employment in the United Kingdom, or to continue in employment in the United Kingdom, whilst your application is under consideration and until either you are issued with residence documentation or, if your application is refused, until your appeal rights are exhausted.
Now, what is the status of these words? I have seen it stated that a full CoA grants permission to work but not to reside. Formally, that only makes sense if it is a letter of immunity. (It certainly comes close to that in so far as it allows an employer to establish a statutory excuse.) On the other hand, in the oft-cited Processes and procedures for EEA documentation applications, it states, on p25, that it confirms your right to work, which may be less useful. However, if this is true, it is hard to see how you can have a right to work, but not to reside, so where does this right to work come from?

The same document also states that you should have been issued a short CoA (p30). This is contradicted by what appears to be training material(?), provided in response to a FOI request. That material states that if valid ID and evidence of exercise of treaty rights are provided, and you have a family permit in your passport, you should receive a full CoA. That material accounts for you receiving a full CoA! This all looks very confused.

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