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my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by zoe8484 » Fri May 19, 2017 6:42 am

@zimba88 please help my entrepreneur visa extension being refused they have given me 14 days to apply for AR. But in that course of extension time and i am still under treatment of severe mental illness and cannot go back due to social issues and mental illness. Can i apply for asylum. Please help they have refused my case very badly. What to do next i am so much stressed again that my mental health issues are returning back. please helpppp

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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by zoe8484 » Fri May 19, 2017 7:01 am

They have put lots of objections that i havenot submitted company filing history page or companies house appointment report instead of that i have submitted companies beta. So they have not given me any points for all three categories investment, and job creation. I can provide them with companies appointment repot and filing history page but they are saying no additional documents can be submitted. Moreover they have also objected my interview like i have employed so many person while i was using 1 hotdesk and meeting room. All my work was field sales based so there was no point hiring a big office space. They also said you have got clients but you can not show their transactions in your accounts. How can i show them in the accounts while they were providing me with cheques and lots more allegations.
I have lost my every invesment and hardwork. Ihave little family. Can not return back due to some social issues and totally fed up of entrepreneur extension.What to do now??And now only 1 week time is left. So much stressed.
Admin @zimba88 please help.

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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by tarun_shreeji » Fri May 19, 2017 7:05 am

dont take too much stress and review refusal points and apply AR or make fresh application again,

please share refusal points and time line,
so you will get more advise from seniors .
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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by zoe8484 » Fri May 19, 2017 7:08 am

I am totally fed up of entrepreneur extension and am not going to waste futher time on it. It is too much stressful now. :(

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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by Momi » Fri May 19, 2017 7:12 am

Home office is cruel but we need to meet all the requirements. I would suggest that you concentrate on 2nd application unless you have very genuine grounds of asylum. They will not even consider your asylum claim of mental illness or social problems. I personally know one case.

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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by zoe8484 » Fri May 19, 2017 7:18 am

Can i submit more documents in A R because very little time left for fresh application. Anyone give me suggestions.

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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by Momi » Fri May 19, 2017 7:58 am

Submit AR and in the mean time start working on you 2nd application. It will take approx 28 days for AR.
So you have almost 28 days.
zoe8484 wrote:Can i submit more documents in A R because very little time left for fresh application. Anyone give me suggestions.

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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by nasiaziz » Fri May 19, 2017 9:25 am

whats your timeline please?

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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by zoe8484 » Fri May 19, 2017 9:52 am

application made:13 may 2016
leave to remain ended: 15may 2016
biometric: 20may 2016
refusal letter: 12may 2017

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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by zimba » Fri May 19, 2017 1:38 pm

You need to list the grounds of your refusal from the refusal letter. Did you fail to send the required documents or is there any issue with regards to the genuineness too ? Having or dealing with mental illness or social issues are no grounds for asylum. You will have better chance in a 2nd extension.
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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by zoe8484 » Fri May 19, 2017 1:50 pm

They have both issuess for genuiness and documents required.

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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by sm12 » Fri May 19, 2017 2:39 pm

Very sorry to hear about this.

What concerns did they raise about genuineness?

You cannot submit new documents for AR, so you must make an argument on the basis of the document you already submitted.

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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by Bluesky07 » Fri May 19, 2017 10:57 pm

What is your timeline please? Don't be to much pressure as you can apply again or apply for a AR.

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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by zimba » Fri May 19, 2017 11:24 pm

zoe8484 wrote:They have both issuess for genuiness and documents required.
You need to be specific and clear and list them properly if you want help :?
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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by zoe8484 » Sun May 21, 2017 1:28 pm

They raised following points for the Interview Genuineness

*credibility of financial accounts:
"you didnot show transaction from your clients account to your company account"
we cannot show the transactions because most of the transactios were in form of cheques.

*credibility of business activity:
"you still owe money to be paid from your major clients and you have not built any social media marketing and website for your clients being a marketing company"
My clients were small businesses they themselves wanted to be only done leaflets for them not social media marketing and websites for them. We were new in market so the clients wanted to keep their balance due in order to built their trust

"your company name is not consistents as one old HMRc letter provided show the different spelling than yours actual company name spelling"


*credibility of job creation:
"You were having one hotdesk shared office and hiring many employees"
I hired 1 or two employees ata time not many employees at one time. And have meeting room for them. Moreover my employees work in sales field than in office.

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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by zimba » Sun May 21, 2017 3:15 pm

I am not sure that you were able to articulate your business needs and decision in your interview. You probably gave them not so convincing answers and let them fill in the blanks themselves. You must have been very detailed in your answers and OFFERED constantly to send them ANY extra documents they wish to see for the proof of your claims and activity. This would have given you much more wiggle room and better ability to defend yourself in case HO goes full retard. Some applicants go COMPLETELY unprepared to the interview to simply hoping that HO will accept them and usually seek advice when the damage has already been done. You must view interview as an opportunity to make a strong case for your company and business :!:
*credibility of financial accounts:
"you didnot show transaction from your clients account to your company account"
we cannot show the transactions because most of the transactions were in form of cheques.
You cannot show money coming in the account ?? Why ?? Did you offer to send the copies of the cheques and the relevant invoices to them ???
*credibility of business activity:
"you still owe money to be paid from your major clients and you have not built any social media marketing and website for your clients being a marketing company"
My clients were small businesses they themselves wanted to be only done leaflets for them not social media marketing and websites for them. We were new in market so the clients wanted to keep their balance due in order to built their trust
Did you offer to send the work you have done for your client as you claim ??? Did you offer to send letters from clients on why they cannot pay ??
"your company name is not consistents as one old HMRc letter provided show the different spelling than yours actual company name spelling"
Why not ??
*credibility of job creation:
"You were having one hotdesk shared office and hiring many employees"
I hired 1 or two employees ata time not many employees at one time. And have meeting room for them. Moreover my employees work in sales field than in office.
You should provide justification for why you do not hire an office space, e.g the high costs of having an office, a shared office works for our needs, ect.
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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by zoe8484 » Sun May 21, 2017 5:26 pm

Documents required:
Investment
-the business bank statements you provided donot show readily identifiable transactions from you to your business
statements highlighted donot showtransfers made in your name from you to your business.
i have made transactions in form of cheques paid from my personal account to business account which they did not accept.

Director within 6 months of grant
-documents you provided a beta copies from company house which can not be accepted.
Beta copies?

Engaged business activities
- printout of companies house appointment report. you have provided beta copies?

creation of jobs in the UK
-you havenot provided a printout of companieshousr of the companies filing history pageand director appointment history.

No additional documents to be provided in AR

Overall any way out in AR??

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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by zimba » Sun May 21, 2017 6:04 pm

Investment
-the business bank statements you provided donot show readily identifiable transactions from you to your business
statements highlighted donot showtransfers made in your name from you to your business.
i have made transactions in form of cheques paid from my personal account to business account which they did not accept.
The money must be traceable to you. Money paid by cheque should show your name as the person depositing it
Director within 6 months of grant
-documents you provided a beta copies from company house which can not be accepted.
Beta copies?
Engaged business activities
- printout of companies house appointment report. you have provided beta copies?
creation of jobs in the UK
-you havenot provided a printout of companieshousr of the companies filing history pageand director appointment history.
You need to submit Current Appointment Report with the filling history from companies house webcheck. This is NOT available via Beta service

To me you have no chance of wining this in AR as you failed to send the required documents as per rules (in addition to the genuineness concerns)
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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by zoe8484 » Tue May 23, 2017 11:54 am

I have made transactions by paying cheques from my personal account to business account. Can it be readily identifiable transactions?

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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by zimba » Tue May 23, 2017 1:16 pm

zoe8484 wrote:I have made transactions by paying cheques from my personal account to business account. Can it be readily identifiable transactions?
It must show your name in business accounts. A cheque could come from anyone.
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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by zoe8484 » Tue May 23, 2017 2:39 pm

Though cheques paid to business account did not show my name in business account but transactions were clearly traceable in form of cheques deducted from my personal account. Can it be acceptable?

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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by zoe8484 » Tue May 23, 2017 3:25 pm

But the amount deposited in business account in form of cheques can be readily identifiable in form of same amount deducted from my personal accounts. Is it acceptable by HO?

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Re: my entrepreneur visa extension refused please help

Post by zimba » Tue May 23, 2017 3:56 pm

You need to provide all the evidence for it that funds came from you. However your case and the failings of your applications go far beyond this issue in my opinion as discussed
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