SET (o) Tier 1 Entrepreneur

[fatguyslim]

I got my accountant to print off the XML files Raj but for some reason it does not have the Gross Pay column in there

The XML file by default doesn't have gross pay but there is an option in the software to include this. Ask him to contact Sage helpline on how to do it and then generate these files.

Do I need the Gross Pay in there though? I have P11s that show the Gross Pay. Would that not be enough?

[marcnath]

I got my accountant to print off the XML files Raj but for some reason it does not have the Gross Pay column in there

The XML file by default doesn't have gross pay but there is an option in the software to include this. Ask him to contact Sage helpline on how to do it and then generate these files.

Do I need the Gross Pay in there though? I have P11s that show the Gross Pay. Would that not be enough?

It is important that you read the guidelines and submit what they call specified documents.

P11 is not a specified document There is no need to submit it and as it is not a specified document, even if you submit it, the CW can ignore it.

[raj.m]

I got my accountant to print off the XML files Raj but for some reason it does not have the Gross Pay column in there

The XML file by default doesn't have gross pay but there is an option in the software to include this. Ask him to contact Sage helpline on how to do it and then generate these files.

Do I need the Gross Pay in there though? I have P11s that show the Gross Pay. Would that not be enough?

Yes, the whole point of sending the XML files is to cover what's missing in the FPS report generated by sage, i.e. gross pay or net pay. P11 is not a specified document but in my opinion, you should send it because if there is anything missing in the FPS, the CW may just confirm the missing information from P11 at their discretion. My extension application was rejected because of missing information in the FPS documents and it was only overturned in the admin review because I had sent them extra documents such as p11 in my original application.

[fatguyslim]

I got my accountant to print off the XML files Raj but for some reason it does not have the Gross Pay column in there

The XML file by default doesn't have gross pay but there is an option in the software to include this. Ask him to contact Sage helpline on how to do it and then generate these files.

Do I need the Gross Pay in there though? I have P11s that show the Gross Pay. Would that not be enough?

Yes, the whole point of sending the XML files is to cover what's missing in the FPS report generated by sage, i.e. gross pay or net pay. P11 is not a specified document but in my opinion, you should send it because if there is anything missing in the FPS, the CW may just confirm the missing information from P11 at their discretion. My extension application was rejected because of missing information in the FPS documents and it was only overturned in the admin review because I had sent them extra documents such as p11 in my original application.

Thanks again Raj. My accountant finally got it to print it with "Gross Pay with tax" column. I hope this will be enough for me to submit it with my P11 to show everything.

I have another quesiton Raj. The guidance notes say the following under the Job Creation: specified documents

(c) Confirmation of the employment start date, hours paid per pay period and the hourly rate
for each settled worker relied upon to claim points, including any changes in the hours
worked per pay period or the hourly rate and the dates of those changes.

What evidence did you give to the home office for this? You won't believe how my extension got accepted given what I sent to the Home Office. In my extension I sent the Home Office the contracts that were signed by me and the employees for this and for FPS I sent then download screenshots from HMRC website. Somehow it all got approved. I don't want to make any mistakes this time around so I am going through all the documents one by one.

[raj.m]

The XML file by default doesn't have gross pay but there is an option in the software to include this. Ask him to contact Sage helpline on how to do it and then generate these files.

Do I need the Gross Pay in there though? I have P11s that show the Gross Pay. Would that not be enough?

Yes, the whole point of sending the XML files is to cover what's missing in the FPS report generated by sage, i.e. gross pay or net pay. P11 is not a specified document but in my opinion, you should send it because if there is anything missing in the FPS, the CW may just confirm the missing information from P11 at their discretion. My extension application was rejected because of missing information in the FPS documents and it was only overturned in the admin review because I had sent them extra documents such as p11 in my original application.

Thanks again Raj. My accountant finally got it to print it with "Gross Pay with tax" column. I hope this will be enough for me to submit it with my P11 to show everything.

I have another quesiton Raj. The guidance notes say the following under the Job Creation: specified documents

(c) Confirmation of the employment start date, hours paid per pay period and the hourly rate
for each settled worker relied upon to claim points, including any changes in the hours
worked per pay period or the hourly rate and the dates of those changes.

What evidence did you give to the home office for this? You won't believe how my extension got accepted given what I sent to the Home Office. In my extension I sent the Home Office the contracts that were signed by me and the employees for this and for FPS I sent then download screenshots from HMRC website. Somehow it all got approved. I don't want to make any mistakes this time around so I am going through all the documents one by one.

You simply write the start date in the application form. Also, your p11 documents would show the start dates. Your payslips would show the hourly pay and you would also write the hourly pay in the application form. Same with the hours. That's all you need. Good luck!

[fatguyslim]

Hey everyone, I have some questions about the Business Activity documents. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance

So this is what the guidance notes says

(b) If you are a director of a UK company or member of a UK partnership, you must provide:

(i) printouts of Companies House documents, dated no earlier than three months before the date of the application, showing all of the following:

(1) the address of the registered office in the UK, or head office in the UK if it has no registered office,

In June 2016 I changed the registered address of my company so I take it providing a copy of IN01(ef) with the AD01(ef) document will do? Unless there is something else, then please let me know.

(2) your name, as a director or member,

I changed my service address in September 2017 so I take it I have to provide IN01(ef) with the CH01(ef) for this one?

(3) the date of your appointment as a director or member, and

I believe the IN01(ef) covers this too unless there is something else required then please let me know

(4) that the business is actively trading (not dormant, struck-off, dissolved or in liquidation),

Not sure what document I can give for this other than the recent confirmation statement CS01(ef) document?

(ii) HM Revenue & Customs’ confirmation or equivalent evidence that the company is
registered for corporation tax (if you are a director of the company), or that you are making tax returns within the self-assessment tax system (if you are a member of a partnership), and

Please can you let me know what document I need for this so I can get my accountant to sort it out? Thanks

(iii) a business bank statement from a UK account which shows business transactions or a letter from the UK bank in question on its headed paper, confirming that the company or partnership has a bank account, that you are a signatory of that account, and that the company or partnership uses that account for the purposes of their business.

This is easy enough to do

[marcnath]

1) The current appointment record should pretty much cover all of (i)
2) Any of the various Tax document - original registration for corporation tax, tax returns, payment request etc.

[fatguyslim]

Thanks Marcnath. Will try and get those documents organised

[fatguyslim]

Hello again, so I am thinking of putting my ILR application forward in the first week of May. The route I am going after is accelerated route as discussed on here earlier. So the period in question is going to be May 2015 to Apr 2018. Now I have already shown the Home Office the evidence of employment for my first 2 employees when I applied for my extension in June 2016. I have compiled all the documents for the period after July 2016 but I am not sure if I have to show them the same documents for the first 2 employees I hired before I got my extension. Like I mentioned earlier my first accountant was a complete idiot and screwed everything for me with regards to my RTI submissions so I had to print of screenshots from HMRC to show the submissions. I miraculously got my Ext based on that and I am not going to make a fool of myself again by sending them the screenshots this time. So I am not really sure what I can do here? I spoke with HMRC and they can't seem to provide FPS submissions with all the details as mentioned by Raj earlier. I wondered if anyone has been able to get the FPS submissions ordered from HMRC and maybe share which department they spoke with to order them? Thanks

[fatguyslim]

Just replying back to see if anyone has a solution to my problem?

[marcnath]

Hello again, so I am thinking of putting my ILR application forward in the first week of May. The route I am going after is accelerated route as discussed on here earlier. So the period in question is going to be May 2015 to Apr 2018. Now I have already shown the Home Office the evidence of employment for my first 2 employees when I applied for my extension in June 2016. I have compiled all the documents for the period after July 2016 but I am not sure if I have to show them the same documents for the first 2 employees I hired before I got my extension. Like I mentioned earlier my first accountant was a complete idiot and screwed everything for me with regards to my RTI submissions so I had to print of screenshots from HMRC to show the submissions. I miraculously got my Ext based on that and I am not going to make a fool of myself again by sending them the screenshots this time. So I am not really sure what I can do here? I spoke with HMRC and they can't seem to provide FPS submissions with all the details as mentioned by Raj earlier. I wondered if anyone has been able to get the FPS submissions ordered from HMRC and maybe share which department they spoke with to order them? Thanks

Not sure why you are using accelerated route ?
Looking at some of your old posts, you got your T1E on 6/6/13. So, you can apply for your regular 5 year route from 10/5/18. Do you want to apply before that ? Or did you exceed more than 180 days of travel in before May 2015 ?
But to your question, you don't need to produce any documents for the initial period.

[fatguyslim]

I am applying for accelerated route because I need the Visa as soon as to be honest.I actually crossed the £5M mark back in 2016-17 but have only recently realised I could get it based on that turnover. Been in the country for over 12 years now and getting tired of waiting. That's all

[fatguyslim]

Oh I see what you mean. My ext actually expires on 28th July and I thought I had to wait until July to apply for ILR. I guess you are right. I might just make the 5 year application then. Sorry I didn't read your whole message

[grenland7862]

Hey everyone, in my previous grant I submitted screenshots from the HMRC website for FPS submissions and that was enough for the Home Office to grant me an ext visa. I had a despicable accountant at the time who was utterly useless. My new accountant has sent me the following documents which I am told are FPS submissions so I am attaching it in this post to confirm if these are what I need for my ILR application. Thanks in advance.

Hi,
The document you mentioned in your post is not RTI FPS(Full payment Submission~), this is submission receipt. The RTI FPS is actully report that shows emplyees name and total payments made along tax & Ni claculations.

I here attached sample of Monthly RTI FPS.

please follow the link to the the sample copy of FPS generated my Moneysoft payroll software

http://www.moneysoft.co.uk/images/pm/de ... 47x957.png

[fatguyslim]

Hey everyone, in my previous grant I submitted screenshots from the HMRC website for FPS submissions and that was enough for the Home Office to grant me an ext visa. I had a despicable accountant at the time who was utterly useless. My new accountant has sent me the following documents which I am told are FPS submissions so I am attaching it in this post to confirm if these are what I need for my ILR application. Thanks in advance.

It looks like your accountant uses SAGE. In that case, you need three documents for every month - 1) FPS Receipt, 2) FPS Report and 3) XML file. Please find the samples below so that you know what you're looking for.

FPS Receipt:

FPS Report:

FPS XML File:

Hey grenland7862, raj already told me what I needed for FPS reports buddy. I was asking about FPS reports for time period I am unable to get from my accountant.

[fatguyslim]

Hey guy just read this bit in the new Guidance notes. Can you please explain what this means?

For settlement applications made from 11 January 2018, we consider absences from the UK on a rolling basis, rather than in separate consecutive 12-month periods. If your qualifying period includes time before this date and you believe that this change would cause you exceptionally harsh consequences, you must set out the reasons in a letter.

[marcnath]

Hey guy just read this bit in the new Guidance notes. Can you please explain what this means?

For settlement applications made from 11 January 2018, we consider absences from the UK on a rolling basis, rather than in separate consecutive 12-month periods. If your qualifying period includes time before this date and you believe that this change would cause you exceptionally harsh consequences, you must set out the reasons in a letter.

What do you need explanation on - 1st line or 2nd ?

[fatguyslim]

All of it please? Does this mean they are going to look for 180 days in the whole 5 years?

[CR001]

All of it please? Does this mean they are going to look for 180 days in the whole 5 years?

They will look for ANY absence of 180 days or more in ANY 12 month rolling period.

[fatguyslim]

I am sorry I still don't get what rolling period means. This is what I have my situation

Tier 1 Ent granted: 06/06/2013 - 06/06/2016
Tier 1 Ent Ext granted: 27/07/2016 - 27/07/2018

Absences taken:
1. 28/09/2015 - 17/11/2015 = 51 days
2. 01/12/2016 - 25/04/2017 = 146 days
3. 12/12/2017 - 13/03/2018 = 92 days

[CR001]

Any 12 month period in the residence qualifying time.

You can no longer split long absence into two different 12 month periods.

[fatguyslim]

Ah I get it now. So I am fine then right? As I do not seem to have over 180 days in any 12 months? Unless I am missing something?

[marcnath]

Ah I get it now. So I am fine then right? As I do not seem to have over 180 days in any 12 months? Unless I am missing something?

It looks fine

[fatguyslim]

Thanks again Marcnath and CR001.

I will soon get my bank statements showing the transactions of my business. The total number of pages is going to be over 500. Is there any limit to the number of pages we can send to the home office? I just don't want them to ignore my application as soon as they see the pile of documents that will get presented to them. Cheers

[marcnath]

Thanks again Marcnath and CR001.

I will soon get my bank statements showing the transactions of my business. The total number of pages is going to be over 500. Is there any limit to the number of pages we can send to the home office? I just don't want them to ignore my application as soon as they see the pile of documents that will get presented to them. Cheers

There is no limit.

But yes, if they seem more documents, they are easier to conclude that it will be a complex case as they are obliged to go through all of it.

Why do you want to send all those statements ?