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Tier 4 Visa for PGDE Primary course (Scotland)

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Tier 4 Visa for PGDE Primary course (Scotland)

Post by Thinker1 » Mon May 14, 2018 12:28 pm

Hi Team
I am already in the UK on a PBS Dependant visa since 2013. My Husband has Tier 2 ICT Visa on which I am dependent.

I am applying for the PGDE - Primary Teacher course.
https://www.strath.ac.uk/courses/postgr ... education/

The course says it is for 9 months starting (22-Aug-2018) but being a Teaching course it will follow all the school holidays. This makes me think the course will run upto to Middle of June 2019. If I apply from India in June 2018, How long will the visa be? (1 year i.e. June 2018 to June 2019)?
Given that the course officially states it is 9 months and will my Husband be able to work if he becomes a Tier 4 (Student) Dependent?

Please advise.
Thanks!

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Re: Tier 4 Visa for PGDE Primary course (Scotland)

Post by Thinker1 » Tue May 29, 2018 11:23 am

Can someone please advise on the original query above.
Thanks!

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Re: Tier 4 Visa for PGDE Primary course (Scotland)

Post by sah10406 » Tue May 29, 2018 11:55 am

I am assuming your husband is not extending his Tier 2 leave. If he is, you simply extend as his dependant and study with that visa. There would be no need for a Tier 4 application.
Thinker1 wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 12:28 pm
The course says it is for 9 months starting (22-Aug-2018) but being a Teaching course it will follow all the school holidays. This makes me think the course will run upto to Middle of June 2019. If I apply from India in June 2018, How long will the visa be? (1 year i.e. June 2018 to June 2019)?
Visa will be issued based on CAS dates. If that shows a 9 month course, it will be course + 2 months. See the Tier 4 Policy Guidance, from paragraph 245.
Thinker1 wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 12:28 pm
Given that the course officially states it is 9 months and will my Husband be able to work if he becomes a Tier 4 (Student) Dependent?
He does not appear to be eligible to apply as your dependant. See https://www.ukcisa.org.uk/Information-- ... Dependants
I do not give immigration advice. I refer you to Immigration Rules, guidance, other online content and to your sponsor.

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Re: Tier 4 Visa for PGDE Primary course (Scotland)

Post by Thinker1 » Wed May 30, 2018 3:15 pm

Thanks for replying with details. One more question please. As I understand the course needs to be 12 months or more. If that is the case and I get my Husband on a dependent visa, how many hours per week can he work? What I have read is I can work 20 hours per week on a student visa. Does the same restrictions apply to my husband or will he be allowed to work 40 hours per week?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Tier 4 Visa for PGDE Primary course (Scotland)

Post by sah10406 » Wed May 30, 2018 4:33 pm

Thinker1 wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 3:15 pm
As I understand the course needs to be 12 months or more. If that is the case and I get my Husband on a dependent visa, how many hours per week can he work? What I have read is I can work 20 hours per week on a student visa. Does the same restrictions apply to my husband or will he be allowed to work 40 hours per week?
The only restrictions on the work a PBS dependant can do are laid out in the Immigration Rules, paragraph 319D(b)(iii)-(v).

(iii) no Employment as a Doctor or Dentist in Training [with some exceptions]

(iv) if the Relevant Points Based System Migrant is a Tier 4 (General) Student [...] and:
(1) the Relevant Points Based System Migrant is a Tier 4 (General) Student applying for leave for less than 12 months, no employment, except where the relevant Points Based System Migrant is applying for, or has been granted leave to remain to continue studying the same course for which they have previously been granted leave of 12 months or more as a Tier 4 (General) Student
(2) the Relevant Points Based System Migrant is a Tier 4 (General) Student who is following a course of below degree level study, no employment.

(v) no employment as a professional sportsperson (including as a sports coach),
I do not give immigration advice. I refer you to Immigration Rules, guidance, other online content and to your sponsor.

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Re: Tier 4 Visa for PGDE Primary course (Scotland)

Post by Thinker1 » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:43 pm

Thanks for the detailed reply. I appreciate your help and advise.

As I mentioned I am in the UK as PBS Dependent (My husband is the main applicant with Tier 2 ICT). Can I apply for the Tier 4 General Student visa from within UK or do I need to go back to my home country an ren enter UK after getting the Tier 4 visa?

Can my husband change to Tier 4 Student PBS Dependent after I return to the UK and can he apply from within UK trying to switch from Tier 2 ICT to PBS Dependent from within UK?

Thanks for your advise in advance!

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Re: Tier 4 Visa for PGDE Primary course (Scotland)

Post by Thinker1 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:40 pm

Hi Team
Can you please advise on the above query. Also I'd like to know about the IELTS requirements. The University has offered me an unconditional offer for a post graduate degree course. They waived off the IELTS requirements due to my graduation and post graduate diploma from India. Is there any chance that my visa be questioned by UKVI if they dont see any IELTS certificate with visa application? Or do UKVI honour the University decision to waive off IELTS?

Thanks for all the advise and guidance!

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Re: Tier 4 Visa for PGDE Primary course (Scotland)

Post by sah10406 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:25 am

Thinker1 wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:40 pm
Also I'd like to know about the IELTS requirements. The University has offered me an unconditional offer for a post graduate degree course. They waived off the IELTS requirements due to my graduation and post graduate diploma from India. Is there any chance that my visa be questioned by UKVI if they dont see any IELTS certificate with visa application? Or do UKVI honour the University decision to waive off IELTS?
The sponsor assesses your English language ability, not the UKVI.
I do not give immigration advice. I refer you to Immigration Rules, guidance, other online content and to your sponsor.

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