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Applicant and Sponsor letters for FLR(M) - key differences?

Post by npumphre » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:10 am

Hello everyone,

Just in the final stages of preparing my wife's FLR(M) spouse visa extension due Dec 2018. Aside from searching in this forum, I've been using a useful website called xxxxxx. The key bits from their website they say I need are the 'Applicant's Letter of Support' and 'UK Partner's Letter of Support'. However, I don't really know what goes in each.

I was going to separate all of the documents I need into 5 sections and write a Table of Contents for it:

1. Applicant's Documents (applicant's passport, 2 x photos, English Language cert & Applicant's letter of support)
2. Sponsor's Documents (photocopy of all my passport pages, 1 x passport photo and my Letter of Support)
3. Financial Documents (work contract, 6 x payslips, 6 x bank statements and a letter from employer)
4. Accommodation Documents (jointly addresses letters, mortgage letter and deeds for house, housing report)
5. Relationship Documents (photos of us together, marriage certificate, birth certificate for our son, my divorce certificate & letters from family and friends with their passport page scanned in)

So think I'm getting there, just don't know what to write in the two letters of support. Can anyone assist here, please?

What's the difference between what I'd put in the Table of Contents, Applicant's Letter of Support and Sponsor's Letter of Support?

I guess I have to write somewhere about our relationship and how it started, etc.

Thank you in advance for your help!

Neil.

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Re: Applicant and Sponsor letters for FLR(M) - key differences?

Post by CR001 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:54 am

npumphre wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:10 am
Hello everyone,

Just in the final stages of preparing my wife's FLR(M) spouse visa extension due Dec 2018. Aside from searching in this forum, I've been using a useful website called xxxxxx. The key bits from their website they say I need are the 'Applicant's Letter of Support' and 'UK Partner's Letter of Support'. However, I don't really know what goes in each. Kindly refrain from posting names of other websites/forums.

I was going to separate all of the documents I need into 5 sections and write a Table of Contents for it: Are you applying by post??

1. Applicant's Documents (applicant's passport, 2 x photos, English Language cert & Applicant's letter of support) Has she done then English A2 test for the extension?

2. Sponsor's Documents (photocopy of all my passport pages, 1 x passport photo and my Letter of Support)

3. Financial Documents (work contract, 6 x payslips, 6 x bank statements and a letter from employer)

4. Accommodation Documents (jointly addresses letters, mortgage letter and deeds for house, housing report) How many pieces of cohabitaiton evidence are you submittin? A housing report is only required if you share the property with other people, ie houseshare.

5. Relationship Documents (photos of us together, marriage certificate, birth certificate for our son, my divorce certificate & letters from family and friends with their passport page scanned in) Photos of you together and letters from friends and family and their passports is NOT required for an extension

So think I'm getting there, just don't know what to write in the two letters of support. Can anyone assist here, please?

What's the difference between what I'd put in the Table of Contents, Applicant's Letter of Support and Sponsor's Letter of Support?

I guess I have to write somewhere about our relationship and how it started, etc. Why do you think you have to do this? Simply submit the documents that the form asks for and don't send unnecessary stuff.

Thank you in advance for your help!

Neil.
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Re: Applicant and Sponsor letters for FLR(M) - key differences?

Post by npumphre » Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:51 am

I was going to separate all of the documents I need into 5 sections and write a Table of Contents for it: Are you applying by post??

Yes. I was going to complete the form online, print it and include it with the other documents by post

1. Applicant's Documents (applicant's passport, 2 x photos, English Language cert & Applicant's letter of support) Has she done then English A2 test for the extension?

In truth we did the B1 English test in the hope that it would still be valid when we came to ILR application. Hope that's ok?

2. Sponsor's Documents (photocopy of all my passport pages, 1 x passport photo and my Letter of Support)

3. Financial Documents (work contract, 6 x payslips, 6 x bank statements and a letter from employer)

4. Accommodation Documents (jointly addresses letters, mortgage letter and deeds for house, housing report) How many pieces of cohabitaiton evidence are you submittin? A housing report is only required if you share the property with other people, ie houseshare.

I wasn't too sure about this, but as a precaution did it anyway.

5. Relationship Documents (photos of us together, marriage certificate, birth certificate for our son, my divorce certificate & letters from family and friends with their passport page scanned in) Photos of you together and letters from friends and family and their passports is NOT required for an extension

That's interesting you say that as I've read others are including. I've just submitted photos taken of us during the course of the last 2 and a bit years and merged them into a word document.

So think I'm getting there, just don't know what to write in the two letters of support. Can anyone assist here, please?

What's the difference between what I'd put in the Table of Contents, Applicant's Letter of Support and Sponsor's Letter of Support?

I guess I have to write somewhere about our relationship and how it started, etc. Why do you think you have to do this? Simply submit the documents that the form asks for and don't send unnecessary stuff.

I only think I need to do this as it's what I read on 'that website' and thought it would make sense? I will need some sort of table of contents in the pack, don't I need to mention how we met and things like that?

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Re: Applicant and Sponsor letters for FLR(M) - key differences?

Post by CR001 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:00 pm

1. Applicant's Documents (applicant's passport, 2 x photos, English Language cert & Applicant's letter of support) Has she done then English A2 test for the extension?

In truth we did the B1 English test in the hope that it would still be valid when we came to ILR application. Hope that's ok?
B1 is fine.
4. Accommodation Documents (jointly addresses letters, mortgage letter and deeds for house, housing report) How many pieces of cohabitaiton evidence are you submittin? A housing report is only required if you share the property with other people, ie houseshare.

I wasn't too sure about this, but as a precaution did it anyway.
Definitely not needed if only your immediately family unit occupy the property.
5. Relationship Documents (photos of us together, marriage certificate, birth certificate for our son, my divorce certificate & letters from family and friends with their passport page scanned in) Photos of you together and letters from friends and family and their passports is NOT required for an extension

That's interesting you say that as I've read others are including. I've just submitted photos taken of us during the course of the last 2 and a bit years and merged them into a word document.
It is NOT required. It is unnecessary and will be disregarded. Photos to prove relationship are required for applications made OUTSIDE the UK, not for FLR(M) extensions. Only submit what the form asks for. Unnecessary documents can delay your application or be the cause of required documentation being missed.
I guess I have to write somewhere about our relationship and how it started, etc. Why do you think you have to do this? Simply submit the documents that the form asks for and don't send unnecessary stuff.

I only think I need to do this as it's what I read on 'that website' and thought it would make sense? I will need some sort of table of contents in the pack, don't I need to mention how we met and things like that?
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No. This is not a repeat of proving relationship when you applied for entry clearance. You need to simply complete the form which asks all these questions. No need to duplicate it all with unnecessary letters. The 2 years cohabitation documentation is what is needed to prove subsisting relationship etc.

Keep it simply, don't overthink and don't send stuff that is not required that you think HO might want to see.
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Re: Applicant and Sponsor letters for FLR(M) - key differences?

Post by npumphre » Sun Aug 19, 2018 12:20 pm

You need to simply complete the form which asks all these questions. No need to duplicate it all with unnecessary letters. The 2 years cohabitation documentation is what is needed to prove subsisting relationship etc.

Thank you, it seems like I was overthinking things. I was looking at the letters we have at our disposal to submit, and the advice I'd read was that they have to cover the period of the time my wife has been in the UK. When she first arrived (April 2016 to collect BRP and then moved permanently June 2016 when our son's British passport was finalised) we were living with my parents (June 2016 to Jan 2017) until I bought a property. She has letters from the bank etc to my parent's address in Oct 2016, and then some to our new address (e.g bank again) from 2017. Do I need to submit the ones to the old address or will that just confuse things? Or if I do, do I need to write a small note to explain the address change in a cover letter?

The only jointly addressed letters we have are council tax (it's an online bill that I'm printing) and one from the joint bank account (I made it joint June this year). I feel this is the weakest area of our application, tbh.

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Correspondence Letters - final check before submission please

Post by npumphre » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:52 pm

Hello all,

Just 3 weeks before my wife's spouse VISA runs out on 30th Dec, I will be submitting her FLR(M) application. Pretty much there, but think I have far too much correspondence evidence (can one have too much?), so was wondering if anyone could check the list and give me some pointers, please.

Just for the record, when she arrived in June 2016, we lived at my parents house until Jan 2017, when we bought our own property. I signed up for an online energy supplier, and due to technical difficulties their end, cannot transfer into joint names. Therefore, we only have 3 joint pieces of evidence (Council Tax, Joint bank account & Water). Here is the list of what I have. As you can see, it's a mess and a lot of it, if you could please help me to either cull or just submit all?


Old Address (Wife):
  • NI Registration doc - 5th Oct 2016
    Letter from Solicitor to my wife about new house purchase - 14 Nov 2016
    NHS Registration confirmation - 17th Nov 2016
    Letter from HSBC - 16th Dec 2016
    HSBC Bank Statement - not dated, but covers 12 Oct 2016 to 10 Jan 2017
Old Address (Me):
  • HM Revenus & Customers about child benefit - 20 July 2016
    End of Year bank statement - not dated, but covers Jan 2016 to Jan 2017
We also have a letter from my dad stating that we lived there.

New Address (Joint):
  • Council Tax Bill - 6th March 2017
    Council Tax Bill - 9th March 2018
    Water bill - 18th June 2018
    Annual Statement from Joint Bank Account - 3rd July 2018
New Address (Wife):
  • Letter from Council for Postal Vote Application - no date
    DVLA saying attached is new licence - no date
    HSBC Annual Statement - 13th October 2017
    Halifax Bank letter - 13th April 2018
    Halifax Statement - 11 May 2018
    Halifax Statement - 10 August 2018
    4 x separate 3 monthly bank statements from HSBC - not dated, but ranging from 11 Jan 2017 to 27 Mar 2018
New Address (Me):
  • Letter from solicitor confirming purchase of house - 26th Jan 2017
    Letter from Solicitor confirming further property details - 24th Aug 2017
    Statement from Shares company confirming change of address - 19th Jan 2018
    First Direct VISA Statement - 9th April 2018
    Letter from Broadband provider - 2nd Aug 2018
That's the documents I have for correspondence! I also have a couple of letters which I need to send to prove that we have a son and that he's registered in the local GP with our current address.

My questions are:
  • What do you think?
    Too many?
    Am I missing any?
    As part of the proof of financial funds saying I'm paid enough are coming from our joint account, does that also help or will they not look at those as further evidence?
    Do I need to get something for the later half of 2018 as I notice both of our evidences end Aug 2018?
I really appreciate your help on this one as I think it's the weakest part of our application, mostly due to not being able to get joint Elec and Gas bills!

Thank you in advance.

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Re: Correspondence Letters - final check before submission please

Post by npumphre » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:01 pm

Hi there,

Just gathering everything now, if someone has chance to review my list please?

Many thanks.

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Re: Correspondence Letters - final check before submission please

Post by npumphre » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:34 pm

Actually, to make it easier I think I've whittled down the list to the following (still more than requested, I guess):

Joint Correspondence (new address)
  • 2 x council tax bills March 2017 & March 2018
    Water Bill = 18 June 2018
    First Direct Bank letter 3 July 2018
I will also be submitting 6 x joint bank statements as part of financial requirements evidence from June to Dec 2018, do they count?

Wife's Name (new address)
  • 4 x HSBC statements covering 11 Jan 2017 to 27 Mar 2018
    Halifax statement covering 12 July 2018 to 10 August 2018
    Halifax statement dated 11 Oct 2018
My Name (new address)
  • Letter from solicitor 26 Jan 2017
    Letter fro Solicitor 24 August 2017
    Blackrock letter 19 Jan 2018
    First Direct Statement 9 April 2018
    Virgin Trains Letter 20 Aug 2018
    Id (mobile bill) 16 Oct 2018
Wife's name (old address)
  • HSBC Statement covering 12 Oct 2016 to 10 Jan 2017
    NHS Registration Letter 17 Nov 2016
    Solicitor Letter 14 Nov 2016
My Name (old address)
  • HM Revenue & Customs Letter 20 July 2016
    First Direct Annual credit card statement covering 8 Jan 2016 to 10 Jan 2017
This plus a letter from my dad to confirm we lived in his house from when wife arrived until we bought our own house in Jan 2017.

How does this lot look? Enough? Too much?

Thank you!

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