BC - trivial and non-trivial questions

[Scientist in a dream]

I would like to ask some questions regarding my BC application. Some of the questions could be straightforward but this is to double check and reassure myself and be 100% certain in my application process.

1. Need to clarify that I should use the same ID document for citizenship application that was used for Life in the UK test? - I used my EU ID card, in that case I should use it for BC application.

2. How to prove physical presence on the day 5 years prior to my application? - since I did not travel outside of the country in that year (seen in countries visited section) can this be deemed as a proof I was in the UK?

3. Nearly 2 months have passed since I took the Life in the UK test. Is this delay between taking the test and sending the application acceptable/reasonable?

4. What is considered a reasonable time between the date of the referees’ declaration and date of sending the application?

5. Is it a problem if one referee signs the declaration and the other one gets to do it after say 2-3 weeks or maybe a month?

6. Is it a problem if the two referees work in the same place? They are not related to each other. In this profession they are at completely different levels - the first one is junior, the second one is very senior.

7. Should I send blank pages for sections that are not relevant in my application - e.g. crown service?

8. My parents have long names. It is a rather silly question but is it a problem if one of the letters falls outside of the box when listing their full names?

9. In the list of countries visited section of the application form I have visited 2 countries during a single travel absence from the UK. My absence was for 10 days. Should I put the 2 countries in the same time period or should I list the second country on a separate row with a date of return to the UK when my trip ended? In the second row for the second country I cannot put a date of departure from the UK because I did not travel back to the UK. I combined my travel to visit 2 countries before my return to the UK.
This section is puzzling because there is no space in the box to put the 2 countries in the same column.

Has anyone encountered a similar problem or knows what to do in my situation?

[alterhase58]

1. Need to clarify that I should use the same ID document for citizenship application that was used for Life in the UK test? - I used my EU ID card, in that case I should use it for BC application.
ID card should be ok but personally I would always use passport.
2. How to prove physical presence on the day 5 years prior to my application? - since I did not travel outside of the country in that year (seen in countries visited section) can this be deemed as a proof I was in the UK?
You need to provide evidence of residency through either P60 or letters from employers confirming they employed you
3. Nearly 2 months have passed since I took the Life in the UK test. Is this delay between taking the test and sending the application acceptable/reasonable?
LITUK is valid forever - not an issue.
4. What is considered a reasonable time between the date of the referees’ declaration and date of sending the application?
No official guidance but I would suggest no longer than three months.
5. Is it a problem if one referee signs the declaration and the other one gets to do it after say 2-3 weeks or maybe a month?
Don't know - try and get it all done same time.
6. Is it a problem if the two referees work in the same place? They are not related to each other. In this profession they are at completely different levels - the first one is junior, the second one is very senior.
No issue.
7. Should I send blank pages for sections that are not relevant in my application - e.g. crown service?
No - only fill in what is required.
8. My parents have long names. It is a rather silly question but is it a problem if one of the letters falls outside of the box when listing their full names?
Not an issue on the paper form - are you applying online?
9. In the list of countries visited section of the application form I have visited 2 countries during a single travel absence from the UK. My absence was for 10 days. Should I put the 2 countries in the same time period or should I list the second country on a separate row with a date of return to the UK when my trip ended? In the second row for the second country I cannot put a date of departure from the UK because I did not travel back to the UK. I combined my travel to visit 2 countries before my return to the UK.
Not sure how this is handled on the online application.
This section is puzzling because there is no space in the box to put the 2 countries in the same column.
Has anyone encountered a similar problem or knows what to do in my situation?
Others may answer this.

[CULLINAN]

9) Mention the exit and entry dates to UK and the final destination.
Mention the transit destination in the reasons provided section.

For example if you left UK on 7th May 2018 and returned on 17th May 2017. You went to Dubai first and stayed there for 2 days and went on to Pakistan. Mention the end destination that is Pakistan and mention the transit Dubai visit with dates in the reasons provided section.

All what matters is the entry and exit dates to UK.

Hope that helps.

[joeano353]

1. Need to clarify that I should use the same ID document for citizenship application that was used for Life in the UK test? - I used my EU ID card, in that case I should use it for BC application.
ID card should be ok but personally I would always use passport.
2. How to prove physical presence on the day 5 years prior to my application? - since I did not travel outside of the country in that year (seen in countries visited section) can this be deemed as a proof I was in the UK?
You need to provide evidence of residency through either P60 or letters from employers confirming they employed you
3. Nearly 2 months have passed since I took the Life in the UK test. Is this delay between taking the test and sending the application acceptable/reasonable?
LITUK is valid forever - not an issue.
4. What is considered a reasonable time between the date of the referees’ declaration and date of sending the application?
No official guidance but I would suggest no longer than three months.
5. Is it a problem if one referee signs the declaration and the other one gets to do it after say 2-3 weeks or maybe a month?
Don't know - try and get it all done same time.
6. Is it a problem if the two referees work in the same place? They are not related to each other. In this profession they are at completely different levels - the first one is junior, the second one is very senior.
No issue.
7. Should I send blank pages for sections that are not relevant in my application - e.g. crown service?
No - only fill in what is required.
8. My parents have long names. It is a rather silly question but is it a problem if one of the letters falls outside of the box when listing their full names?
Not an issue on the paper form - are you applying online?
9. In the list of countries visited section of the application form I have visited 2 countries during a single travel absence from the UK. My absence was for 10 days. Should I put the 2 countries in the same time period or should I list the second country on a separate row with a date of return to the UK when my trip ended? In the second row for the second country I cannot put a date of departure from the UK because I did not travel back to the UK. I combined my travel to visit 2 countries before my return to the UK.
Not sure how this is handled on the online application.
This section is puzzling because there is no space in the box to put the 2 countries in the same column.
Has anyone encountered a similar problem or knows what to do in my situation?
Others may answer this.

You have to send in all the pages including blank pages.

[Scientist in a dream]

1. Need to clarify that I should use the same ID document for citizenship application that was used for Life in the UK test? - I used my EU ID card, in that case I should use it for BC application.
ID card should be ok but personally I would always use passport.

I would normally prefer to use my passport but I think there was this requirement that if I took the Life in the UK test with ID card, I should use it again for BC application and vice versa if I used my passport to pass the Life in the UK test, then I must apply with my passport and NOT ID card.

2. How to prove physical presence on the day 5 years prior to my application? - since I did not travel outside of the country in that year (seen in countries visited section) can this be deemed as a proof I was in the UK?
You need to provide evidence of residency through either P60 or letters from employers confirming they employed you

5 years ago at around this time I have had the status of a full-time university student just finishing with my exams and not in employment during the summer.

1. I am thinking I could use bank statements to prove physical presence if the bank can go that further back.

2. Another alternative is that I was in a situation to use the help of a solicitor in a legal dispute with a previous employer. I had frequent consultations and this might be useful if I can ask the company to provide a letter statement for my presence and also any means of email and letter communications that can verify this.

What are your thoughts on this?

[CR001]

You can't use bank statements. The guidance states this isn't accepted.

Suggest get a letter from your university etc.

[Scientist in a dream]

You can't use bank statements. The guidance states this isn't accepted.

Suggest get a letter from your university etc.

I am thinking I can attach a student letter during that summer of 2014 certifying student status.
The letter does not have more value than the degree transcript and the degree certificate which I am planning to attach as a proof of the English language requirement. They confirm the length of the entire program.

The student status letter only confirms my personal details and date of issue.
Do I need specific evidence that I was here during the summer or do the documents that I already have serve this purpose?

Furthermore, from the absences section of the application form it can be clearly seen that during that period there was no travel outside of the UK. The HO can do the checks to verify this?

8. My parents have long names. It is a rather silly question but is it a problem if one of the letters falls outside of the box when listing their full names?
Not an issue on the paper form - are you applying online?

I am planning to apply by post as this was the way I have applied for previous residence documents and didn't have a problem with it.

[Scientist in a dream]

I have some more questions.

I am leaving my current job, is it a problem to list at as current at the time of application, i.e. 1 week has passed after leaving it? It would make more sense to list my role as if I am still in employment, rather than just say looking for work/interviewing. Do you agree with this?

I have also received my P60 form and it appears that the income from the previous job was not included. The unusual situation is that P45 from previous employer was delayed and not provided at the start of the new job.

I guess it is not going to be a problem if the past tax year is covered separately by P60 and P45?

[zimba]

Employment history only matters during your time as an EU migrant before being granted PR (the requirement to prove you exercised treaty rights)
For BC, you do not need to be employed