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ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by jkproperties » Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:14 pm

Good afternoon all,
We will reach our 3 year anniversary of living in the UK in March 2023.
I have looked at the uk.gov website but there is no obvious choice.

My Children got ILE based on my wife and I having British citizenship by descent.
My Son turns 18 in April
My Daughter 16 in April

From what I recall applying for their settlement visas 3 and a half years ago, they would qualify to apply for citizenship after being resident for 3 years.

Do we apply at this link?
https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-in ... -to-remain

The form asks for 5 years worth of UK addresses, do I only enter the relevant 3 years?
What about life in the UK test? (I recall this not being required if under 18 when they apply.)
What about the English language test? (I recall this not being required if under 18 when they apply.)

Thank you,

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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by CR001 » Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:28 pm

My Son turns 18 in April
My Daughter 16 in April
If they are still under 18, they apply to Register as British under section 3(5) of the National Act. Use form MN1.
The form asks for 5 years worth of UK addresses, do I only enter the relevant 3 years?
What about life in the UK test? (I recall this not being required if under 18 when they apply.)
What about the English language test? (I recall this not being required if under 18 when they apply.)
The tests are not required for those who are under 18. Address, simply complete as relevant. It is not a deal breaker. The same MN1 form is used for all categories.
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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by jkproperties » Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:39 pm

Thank you for your reply,

Can we only apply after the 3 year anniversary?
Thank you,

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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by CR001 » Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:46 pm

jkproperties wrote:
Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:39 pm
Thank you for your reply,

Can we only apply after the 3 year anniversary?
Thank you,
Yes, 3 years from date of entry to the UK.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... -Sep22.pdf
Section 3(5)
To qualify under this section the child and their mother and father should have
lived in the UK (or British Overseas Territory if born after 21 May 2002) for a
3-year period ending with the date the application is received. And the child and
their parents should be physically present in the UK or the British Overseas
Territory at the start of that period.

The child and their parents must not have been absent from the UK (or the
British Overseas Territories if appropriate) for more than 270 days during the
3-year residential period. There is no discretion to disregard absences greater
than 270 days.


If the parents’ marriage or civil partnership has ended or they are legally
separated then only the child and one parent has to satisfy the residence
requirement.

Both parents must consent to the child being registered as a British citizen. If
one of the parents has died then only the consent of the surviving parent is
required.

A child registered under this section will be a British citizen otherwise than
by descent, which means they can pass on citizenship to their own children
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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by jkproperties » Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:53 pm

Thank you,

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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by jkproperties » Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:06 pm

Hi all,
I am starting the application now.

Date you gained settled status in the UK

Is this date of arrival or date visa was approved?

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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by Ticktack » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:17 am

jkproperties wrote:
Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:06 pm
Hi all,
I am starting the application now.

Date you gained settled status in the UK

Is this date of arrival or date visa was approved?
Date ILE was issued.
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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by jkproperties » Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:20 pm

Thank you,

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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by jkproperties » Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:53 pm

HI All,
Just looking for some clarification on the highlighted items.
  • The passport issued by South Africa for Applicant
  • Proof of Father's parental responsibility for Applicant. is birth certificate sufficient?
  • Proof of Mothers parental responsibility for applicant
  • Proof of Mrs s parental responsibility can include:
    • A copy of the birth certificate
    • A parental responsibility order, care order, adoption order or special guardianship order.
  • A letter of consent from Applicant's parent(s) or legal guardian(s) is there any specific wording that needs to be contained in the letter?
  • Applicant's birth certificate (showing details of both parents)
  • If Applicant has a passport then provide this with your application. If Applicant does not have a passport then you must provide another officially-issued identity document. This could include an official travel document or national identity card.
  • Applicants parent's foreign (non-EU) passport or alternative evidence of residence
    If told us that their parent is a British citizen then you must provide us evidence of their citizenship. This could include their British passport, a certificate of citizenship or their birth certificate.
  • If told us that their parent is settled in the UK then you must provide us evidence of their settled status. This could include a BRP, a letter from the Home Office, an endorsement in their passport or another document certifying permanent residence. Would the passports cover these?
  • Applicants parents' marriage certificate
  • British grandparent's birth certificate, registration or naturalisation certificate, or passport
  • If you are required to send your parent’s or grandparent's British passport and you are making your application by post, you can send a complete and full copy of their current passport. Every page of the passport must be copied, including any blank pages. Is this required if parents are British citizens?
  • Evidence that parents lived in the UK for a period of 3 years immediately before the date of application would confirmation of our flights in be ok to cover the period prior to moving into a rental property be sufficient for this?
  • Applicants grandparents' marriage certificate again, is this necessary as both parents are British, my parents are still in South Africa.
  • Two referee declarations for Mr xxxxxxz
  • Applicants current biometric residence permit (BRP)

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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by Ticktack » Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:40 am

jkproperties wrote:
Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:53 pm
HI All,
Just looking for some clarification on the highlighted items.
  • The passport issued by South Africa for Applicant
  • Proof of Father's parental responsibility for Applicant. is birth certificate sufficient?
Yes
  • Proof of Mothers parental responsibility for applicant
  • Proof of Mrs s parental responsibility can include:
    • A copy of the birth certificate
    • A parental responsibility order, care order, adoption order or special guardianship order.
  • A letter of consent from Applicant's parent(s) or legal guardian(s) is there any specific wording that needs to be contained in the letter?
Nothing really, it could be as brief or otherwise as you like.
  • Applicant's birth certificate (showing details of both parents)
  • If Applicant has a passport then provide this with your application. If Applicant does not have a passport then you must provide another officially-issued identity document. This could include an official travel document or national identity card.
  • Applicants parent's foreign (non-EU) passport or alternative evidence of residence
    If told us that their parent is a British citizen then you must provide us evidence of their citizenship. This could include their British passport, a certificate of citizenship or their birth certificate.
  • If told us that their parent is settled in the UK then you must provide us evidence of their settled status. This could include a BRP, a letter from the Home Office, an endorsement in their passport or another document certifying permanent residence. Would the passports cover these?
Yes passport would.
  • Applicants parents' marriage certificate
  • British grandparent's birth certificate, registration or naturalisation certificate, or passport
  • If you are required to send your parent’s or grandparent's British passport and you are making your application by post, you can send a complete and full copy of their current passport. Every page of the passport must be copied, including any blank pages. Is this required if parents are British citizens?
Required for parents, not for grand-parents
  • Evidence that parents lived in the UK for a period of 3 years immediately before the date of application would confirmation of our flights in be ok to cover the period prior to moving into a rental property be sufficient for this?
Utility bills, P60, NHS
  • Applicants grandparents' marriage certificate again, is this necessary as both parents are British, my parents are still in South Africa.
Not required
  • Two referee declarations for Mr xxxxxxz
  • Applicants current biometric residence permit (BRP)
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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by jkproperties » Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:33 am

Thank you, I have now completed the application, and on printing the application see that one of the referee's needs to know my son in a professional manner. like a teacher, the problem is, Covid happened in 2020 so he hardly attended school in his year 10, and only spent a year there for year 11 and has now been at college for 18 months.

The referee's we have added are both civil servants and family friends.
one is a police officer and the other a prison warden.
any advice would be appreciated.

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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by Ticktack » Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:16 am

jkproperties wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 10:33 am
Thank you, I have now completed the application, and on printing the application see that one of the referee's needs to know my son in a professional manner. like a teacher, the problem is, Covid happened in 2020 so he hardly attended school in his year 10, and only spent a year there for year 11 and has now been at college for 18 months.

The referee's we have added are both civil servants and family friends.
one is a police officer and the other a prison warden.
any advice would be appreciated.
HO aren't really fussy about kids. The referees you've used should be fine.
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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by jkproperties » Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:22 pm

Hi All, what feels like an eternity has passed since submitting my son’s application.
We have received an email requesting payment of £80 for the ceremony as he has turned 18 in the meantime.

But the email is requesting bank card details:
Card number, expiration date and card security code.
This feels unsafe.
Any thoughts? Is this legit or a scam?

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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by alterhase58 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:27 pm

jkproperties wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:22 pm
Hi All, what feels like an eternity has passed since submitting my son’s application.
We have received an email requesting payment of £80 for the ceremony as he has turned 18 in the meantime.

But the email is requesting bank card details:
Card number, expiration date and card security code.
This feels unsafe.
Any thoughts? Is this legit or a scam?
This is normal, not a scam - once child turns 18 during the MN1 application process they need to pay the ceremony fee of £80.
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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by AmazonianX » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:18 am

jkproperties wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:22 pm
Hi All, what feels like an eternity has passed since submitting my son’s application.
We have received an email requesting payment of £80 for the ceremony as he has turned 18 in the meantime.

But the email is requesting bank card details:
Card number, expiration date and card security code.
This feels unsafe.
Any thoughts? Is this legit or a scam?
It is legit.

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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by jkproperties » Thu Jun 29, 2023 10:23 pm

alterhase58 wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:27 pm
jkproperties wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:22 pm
Hi All, what feels like an eternity has passed since submitting my son’s application.
We have received an email requesting payment of £80 for the ceremony as he has turned 18 in the meantime.

But the email is requesting bank card details:
Card number, expiration date and card security code.
This feels unsafe.
Any thoughts? Is this legit or a scam?
This is normal, not a scam - once child turns 18 during the MN1 application process they need to pay the ceremony fee of £80.
Thank you,

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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by jkproperties » Thu Jun 29, 2023 10:23 pm

AmazonianX wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:18 am
jkproperties wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:22 pm
Hi All, what feels like an eternity has passed since submitting my son’s application.
We have received an email requesting payment of £80 for the ceremony as he has turned 18 in the meantime.

But the email is requesting bank card details:
Card number, expiration date and card security code.
This feels unsafe.
Any thoughts? Is this legit or a scam?
It is legit.
Thank you,

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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by jkproperties » Thu Jul 06, 2023 6:10 am

Good morning all,
the letter received says payment to be made by06/07/2023
The payment hasn't been processes yet, is there a contact number?

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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by jkproperties » Fri Jul 07, 2023 3:59 pm

Will the application just be rejected? Or can I make contact?

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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by jkproperties » Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:04 am

So I have received another email requesting payment same as the previous email, but new dates have been given as a deadline. I have replied again even though I replied 2 weeks ago to the first one already, I have now emailed further enquiries email address and hopefully this will get sorted.

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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by secret.simon » Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:20 pm

Old-fashioned, but you can also ask them if you can pay by cheque, instead of passing the card details to them or if you can pay via Gov.UK Pay.
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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by frabezoixani-5859 » Sat Oct 07, 2023 1:51 am

Hi jkproperties, I hope your application went successfully. Can I ask for your experience:

(1) What documents did you submit for "Evidence that parents lived in the UK for a period of 3 years immediately before the date of application", and how did you space them out during the 3 years? I wonder if the P60 is a good document because it doesn't show the dates of employment.

(2) Did you submit the applicants grandparents' marriage certificate?

Thank you in advance.

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Re: ILE to Citizenship for Children after 3 years

Post by AmazonianX » Sat Oct 07, 2023 2:22 pm

frabezoixani-5859 wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2023 1:51 am
Hi jkproperties, I hope your application went successfully. Can I ask for your experience:

(1) What documents did you submit for "Evidence that parents lived in the UK for a period of 3 years immediately before the date of application", and how did you space them out during the 3 years? I wonder if the P60 is a good document because it doesn't show the dates of employment.

(2) Did you submit the applicants grandparents' marriage certificate?

Thank you in advance.
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