Help Required: Qualification Assessment Unusual Case!

[npanglia]

I need some help/suggestion/advice on my qualification assessment.
I have done my PG in International Business in 2006 from a B School (Symbiosis Institute of International Business, Pune) which is supposedly equivalent to MBA. At the time when I passed out (Year 2006) I was awarded PG Diploma by the institute since it was an autonomous institute at that time.

Post 2006, the institute came under Symbiosis International University and the same program which was undertaken by me in 2004-06 (which was 2 yr Full Time) started to award MBA Degree by the university. This course also got AICTE Approved in 2006.
(When I say same program I mean the entire curriculum, assessment, classroom study, evaluation etc remains exactly same)

Now When I got my qualification assessed by NARIC, they evaluated it as equivalent to British PG Diploma. However everyone who will be awarded MBA (Post 2006) degree for the same course will be compared equivalent to British Masters (Because it’s directly from university).

Technically, if I repeat the same course today, it will be British Masters. This puts me in a head scratching situation.

Please suggest if anything related can be appealed back to NARIC. Or Do I have to accept the same as British PG Diploma and disqualify myself for Tier 1 General Visa.
Note: Symbiosis International University is listed in PBS and recognized by University Grant Commission-GOI, AIU & AICTE.

[mvent00]

I need some help/suggestion/advice on my qualification assessment.
I have done my PG in International Business in 2006 from a B School (Symbiosis Institute of International Business, Pune) which is supposedly equivalent to MBA. At the time when I passed out (Year 2006) I was awarded PG Diploma by the institute since it was an autonomous institute at that time.

Post 2006, the institute came under Symbiosis International University and the same program which was undertaken by me in 2004-06 (which was 2 yr Full Time) started to award MBA Degree by the university. This course also got AICTE Approved in 2006.
(When I say same program I mean the entire curriculum, assessment, classroom study, evaluation etc remains exactly same)

Now When I got my qualification assessed by NARIC, they evaluated it as equivalent to British PG Diploma. However everyone who will be awarded MBA (Post 2006) degree for the same course will be compared equivalent to British Masters (Because it’s directly from university).

Technically, if I repeat the same course today, it will be British Masters. This puts me in a head scratching situation.

Please suggest if anything related can be appealed back to NARIC. Or Do I have to accept the same as British PG Diploma and disqualify myself for Tier 1 General Visa.
Note: Symbiosis International University is listed in PBS and recognized by University Grant Commission-GOI, AIU & AICTE.

Yes, you can appeal against the decision.

[npanglia]

please

[npanglia]

Viewers of this post - PLEASE participate in the POLL.
Atleast it will give me an idea about my chances. Please suggest reason is it is a "NO"

[ChetanOjha]

I need some help/suggestion/advice on my qualification assessment.
I have done my PG in International Business in 2006 from a B School (Symbiosis Institute of International Business, Pune) which is supposedly equivalent to MBA. At the time when I passed out (Year 2006) I was awarded PG Diploma by the institute since it was an autonomous institute at that time.

Post 2006, the institute came under Symbiosis International University and the same program which was undertaken by me in 2004-06 (which was 2 yr Full Time) started to award MBA Degree by the university. This course also got AICTE Approved in 2006.
(When I say same program I mean the entire curriculum, assessment, classroom study, evaluation etc remains exactly same)

Now When I got my qualification assessed by NARIC, they evaluated it as equivalent to British PG Diploma. However everyone who will be awarded MBA (Post 2006) degree for the same course will be compared equivalent to British Masters (Because it’s directly from university).

Technically, if I repeat the same course today, it will be British Masters. This puts me in a head scratching situation.

Please suggest if anything related can be appealed back to NARIC. Or Do I have to accept the same as British PG Diploma and disqualify myself for Tier 1 General Visa.
Note: Symbiosis International University is listed in PBS and recognized by University Grant Commission-GOI, AIU & AICTE.

I don't think your reasoning is correct here. Let's think other way around. If I complete course from your institute now I might have to pay more fees than you did. Can I reason the fact that, if I had done this course before 2006 I could have save X amount of fees hence I will only pay 2006 fees? Obviously not.The same is true for reverse your case as well. When you did the course there were no provision for MBA from your institute but now it is. You can raise the same NARIC and see what happen.

[npanglia]

Well I slightly disagree with the explanation described here.

We are taking about a product here not the related attributes. For example A tomato manufactured in 2006 or in 2009 will taste like a tomato only. Even if I rename it as say "British Exotic Tomato" or a potato, it wont change the taste.

Similar is the case if the same curriculum has been followed for PG diploma as well as MBA, then the ultimate product will still remain the same.

Another case, also IIM PG Diploma is considered Masters which means its product is being valued (Education/curriculum) here not the attributes (PG Diploma)

Your Comments!

[ChetanOjha]

Another case, also IIM PG Diploma is considered Masters which means its product is being valued (Education/curriculum) here not the attributes (PG Diploma)

Your Comments!

IIM was on and off the list of NARIC and PBS. It was not always considered equivalent to masters. But some time back it was considered and people got visa based on it..again it was not considered. This is very annoying especially when people miss opportunities due to this uncertainity.

[npanglia]

This is news for me. I do agree with you that people missing opportunities due to this. But then it does raise a question on the assessment procedures of NARIC where they just evaluate primarily the title of qualification for their assessment rather than doing deep analysis.

Considering the same I have appealed to NARIC and I am certain to fight the case till last since I can see XYZ institutes even they dont offer higher education standard are recognized as Masters degree just because they are from university. This thing is definitely realized by indian corporates and MNC's that is why they recruit with high packages from top tier institutes even if they award PG Diploma instead of MBA.

[ChetanOjha]

This is news for me.

This is discussed in this forum for quite some time.

Considering the same I have appealed to NARIC and I am certain to fight the case till last since I can see XYZ institutes even they dont offer higher education standard are recognized as Masters degree just because they are from university. This thing is definitely realized by indian corporates and MNC's that is why they recruit with high packages from top tier institutes even if they award PG Diploma instead of MBA.

I think it is more to with the way Degree are affiliated within India. If govtou . of India cannot evaluate two qualifications properly..you cannot really blame NARIC. I saw a person who is most of the time out of the college, done MBA from a third grade college/university was recognised. whereas people doing from a reputed college in pune were denied. Anyway Good Luck.!!!

[npanglia]

I think it is more to with the way Degree are affiliated within India. If govtou . of India cannot evaluate two qualifications properly..you cannot really blame NARIC.

I Agree with you.
and Thanks for the information & wishes.

[npanglia]

Has anyone having PGDM from renowned B School (Excluding IIM) has appealed to NARIC incase their qualification has not been compared to Masters.

[mvent00]

Has anyone having PGDM from renowned B School (Excluding IIM) has appealed to NARIC incase their qualification has not been compared to Masters.

Check the following link and see if you can find anything: http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=13098

[npanglia]

Check the following link and see if you can find anything: http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=13098

Thanks for help. Have appealed back to NARIC, keeping fingers crossed for the final outcome.
Probably will approach AIU to issue me a letter of comparability which I can submit to NARIC.

[mvent00]

Check the following link and see if you can find anything: http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=13098

Thanks for help. Have appealed back to NARIC, keeping fingers crossed for the final outcome.
Probably will approach AIU to issue me a letter of comparability which I can submit to NARIC.

Good luck!! Please let us know the outcome of your appeal. Wish you all the best!!

[npanglia]

Good luck!! Please let us know the outcome of your appeal. Wish you all the best!!

Surely I will, however does anyone know what is the turn around time for Appeals process ?

[npanglia]

Good luck!! Please let us know the outcome of your appeal. Wish you all the best!!

The outcome of the appeal has come, NARIC has not changed its decision. However they mentioned if we can provide a letter of equivalence to MBA from AICTE or AIU, they can reevaluate the case.

Next Steps: Letter from AICTE

Does anyone know if I can approach AICTE directly as well or do I have to get it done through institute? (My course is already AICTE approved).
Any idea on how much time does it take by AICTE? since I wanted to speed up the process knowing that govt. procedures take ages to execute.

Please help & advice

[saara]

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