tier 1 dependent for wife- joint account wiv father in india

[Son_of_Soil]

Hello gurus
please help me in this urgent matter.. my wife has been refused visa from india,
i just want to confirm one thing
for tier 1 dependent, is it ok to show maintenance funds in an joint account with father.? or its not acceptable.

please guide

[[iD]]

Hello gurus
please help me in this urgent matter.. my wife has been refused visa from india,
i just want to confirm one thing
for tier 1 dependent, is it ok to show maintenance funds in an joint account with father.? or its not acceptable.

please guide

It is ok to use joint account. check below.

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211.	If the applicant wishes to rely on a joint account as evidence of available funds, he/she must be named on the account along with one or more other named individual.

- Source: Tier 1 (General) Policy Guidance page 37 of 48

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[Son_of_Soil]

Hello gurus
please help me in this urgent matter.. my wife has been refused visa from india,
i just want to confirm one thing
for tier 1 dependent, is it ok to show maintenance funds in an joint account with father.? or its not acceptable.

please guide

It is ok to use joint account. check below.

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211.	If the applicant wishes to rely on a joint account as evidence of available funds, he/she must be named on the account along with one or more other named individual.

- Source: Tier 1 (General) Policy Guidance page 37 of 48

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hello there
its not tier 1 she is applying, she is applying for tier 1 dependent , n i think its works slightly different to tier 1 general

[nehagharge]

You can use the joint act to maintain the funds,can u please let us know the reason of the rejection

Hello gurus
please help me in this urgent matter.. my wife has been refused visa from india,
i just want to confirm one thing
for tier 1 dependent, is it ok to show maintenance funds in an joint account with father.? or its not acceptable.

please guide

It is ok to use joint account. check below.

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211.	If the applicant wishes to rely on a joint account as evidence of available funds, he/she must be named on the account along with one or more other named individual.

- Source: Tier 1 (General) Policy Guidance page 37 of 48

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hello there
its not tier 1 she is applying, she is applying for tier 1 dependent , n i think its works slightly different to tier 1 general

[[iD]]

hello there
its not tier 1 she is applying, she is applying for tier 1 dependent , n i think its works slightly different to tier 1 general

Still not a problem as you can use joint account, see below

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85. If the applicant wishes to rely on a joint account as evidence of available funds, he/she, the main applicant, or (for children) his/her other parent who is legally present in the United Kingdom, must be named on the account along with one or more other named individual(s).
86. All evidence must be dated no more than one month before the application is submitted.

- Source PBS (D) Guidance (version 04/10) - page 14

[Son_of_Soil]

hello there
its not tier 1 she is applying, she is applying for tier 1 dependent , n i think its works slightly different to tier 1 general

Still not a problem as you can use joint account, see below

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85. If the applicant wishes to rely on a joint account as evidence of available funds, he/she, the main applicant, or (for children) his/her other parent who is legally present in the United Kingdom, must be named on the account along with one or more other named individual(s).
86. All evidence must be dated no more than one month before the application is submitted.

- Source PBS (D) Guidance (version 04/10) - page 14

[Son_of_Soil]

hello there
its not tier 1 she is applying, she is applying for tier 1 dependent , n i think its works slightly different to tier 1 general

Still not a problem as you can use joint account, see below

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85. If the applicant wishes to rely on a joint account as evidence of available funds, he/she, the main applicant, or (for children) his/her other parent who is legally present in the United Kingdom, must be named on the account along with one or more other named individual(s).
86. All evidence must be dated no more than one month before the application is submitted.



- Source PBS (D) Guidance (version 04/10) - page 14

hi there .i did read this point earlier however i m am finding it hard to understand..what does (FOR CHILDREN) HIS/HER OTHER PARENT WHO IS LEGALLY PRESENT IN THE UK ' MEANS? My father is in india not in the UK. it might sound that i m silly but too be honest after reading so much info my mind is completly confused please elaborate it

[Son_of_Soil]

You can use the joint act to maintain the funds,can u please let us know the reason of the rejection

Hello gurus
please help me in this urgent matter.. my wife has been refused visa from india,
i just want to confirm one thing
for tier 1 dependent, is it ok to show maintenance funds in an joint account with father.? or its not acceptable.

please guide

It is ok to use joint account. check below.

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211.	If the applicant wishes to rely on a joint account as evidence of available funds, he/she must be named on the account along with one or more other named individual.

- Source: Tier 1 (General) Policy Guidance page 37 of 48

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hello there
its not tier 1 she is applying, she is applying for tier 1 dependent , n i think its works slightly different to tier 1 general

she is refused coz on the statement , bank logo was missing
n relationship betwween me and my father wasnt mention. i m not sure if i can use joint account with father to show maintenance money

[[iD]]

You can use the joint act to maintain the funds,can u please let us know the reason of the rejection

It is ok to use joint account. check below.

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211.	If the applicant wishes to rely on a joint account as evidence of available funds, he/she must be named on the account along with one or more other named individual.

- Source: Tier 1 (General) Policy Guidance page 37 of 48

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hello there
its not tier 1 she is applying, she is applying for tier 1 dependent , n i think its works slightly different to tier 1 general

she is refused coz on the statement , bank logo was missing
n relationship betwween me and my father wasnt mention. i m not sure if i can use joint account with father to show maintenance money

So her application wasn't refused because of joint account with her father but because of the logo missing from bank statement. Try to get a letter from bank explaining she kept [minimum amount] for 3 months and apply again.
Her father can not support her unless she has her name on the account. However you can.

[Son_of_Soil]

You can use the joint act to maintain the funds,can u please let us know the reason of the rejection

hello there
its not tier 1 she is applying, she is applying for tier 1 dependent , n i think its works slightly different to tier 1 general

she is refused coz on the statement , bank logo was missing
n relationship betwween me and my father wasnt mention. i m not sure if i can use joint account with father to show maintenance money

So her application wasn't refused because of joint account with her father but because of the logo missing from bank statement. Try to get a letter from bank explaining she kept [minimum amount] for 3 months and apply again.
Her father can not support her unless she has her name on the account. However you can.

Dear ID
let me explain the situation as i think you are a bit confused aswell with my query.
my wife applied for tier 1 dependent from india. and i am in uk , however to show the maintanence money, i used my account in india with my father.Her application was rejected coz 1)my bank account with my dad didnt have a logo and relationship between us(me and father) wasnt mentioned anywhrere
2) my wife's bank statement were more than 30days old.

So i am bit concerned that can i Actually use my account with father to show the maintence money?and when i read the above point
(FOR CHILDREN) HIS/HER OTHER PARENT WHO IS LEGALLY PRESENT IN THE UK ' i get more confused as i dnt understand it. My father is not in uk, he is in india and i m a secondry account holder not the main.

i would be thankfull if you can elaborate the above statement as my solicitor is trying to rip money of me.

[aruni4470]

(FOR CHILDREN) HIS/HER OTHER PARENT WHO IS LEGALLY PRESENT IN THE UK ' i get more confused as i dnt understand it

This statement is for those who are applying for child dependant visa. So, do not take it into consideration in your case.

[[iD]]

Dear ID
let me explain the situation as i think you are a bit confused aswell with my query.
my wife applied for tier 1 dependent from india. and i am in uk , however to show the maintanence money, i used my account in india with my father.Her application was rejected coz 1)my bank account with my dad didnt have a logo and relationship between us(me and father) wasnt mentioned anywhrere
2) my wife's bank statement were more than 30days old.

So i am bit concerned that can i Actually use my account with father to show the maintence money?and when i read the above point
(FOR CHILDREN) HIS/HER OTHER PARENT WHO IS LEGALLY PRESENT IN THE UK ' i get more confused as i dnt understand it. My father is not in uk, he is in india and i m a secondry account holder not the main.

i would be thankfull if you can elaborate the above statement as my solicitor is trying to rip money of me.

OK here is the thing.
Your wife can use any account with your or her name on it. It doesn't matter if it's your joint account and it really doesn't matter who is the other nominee on the account. What matters is that you or your wife is named on the account.

She wasn't rejected because they couldn't establish the relation between you and your dad but because the bank statements never had a logo on them.

Do not confuse yourself with children who'se parents are in the UK clause (it's for children applying to come to uk to be with their parents). In your case it's your wife using your (joint) account as maintenance funds.

Solution: Either get bank statements with logo on them OR get a letter from bank stating that you are the account holder (or joint account holder) and you had minimum of [amount] in this account and reapply with it.

Hope it clears things a bit.

[Son_of_Soil]

Dear ID
let me explain the situation as i think you are a bit confused aswell with my query.
my wife applied for tier 1 dependent from india. and i am in uk , however to show the maintanence money, i used my account in india with my father.Her application was rejected coz 1)my bank account with my dad didnt have a logo and relationship between us(me and father) wasnt mentioned anywhrere
2) my wife's bank statement were more than 30days old.

So i am bit concerned that can i Actually use my account with father to show the maintence money?and when i read the above point
(FOR CHILDREN) HIS/HER OTHER PARENT WHO IS LEGALLY PRESENT IN THE UK ' i get more confused as i dnt understand it. My father is not in uk, he is in india and i m a secondry account holder not the main.

i would be thankfull if you can elaborate the above statement as my solicitor is trying to rip money of me.

OK here is the thing.
Your wife can use any account with your or her name on it. It doesn't matter if it's your joint account and it really doesn't matter who is the other nominee on the account. What matters is that you or your wife is named on the account.

She wasn't rejected because they couldn't establish the relation between you and your dad but because the bank statements never had a logo on them.

Do not confuse yourself with children who'se parents are in the UK clause (it's for children applying to come to uk to be with their parents). In your case it's your wife using your (joint) account as maintenance funds.

Solution: Either get bank statements with logo on them OR get a letter from bank stating that you are the account holder (or joint account holder) and you had minimum of [amount] in this account and reapply with it.

Hope it clears things a bit.

thanxs for a quick reply , much appreciated
so in other words , its shouldnt be a problem to show funds in joint account with my father, right?
When my wife got the refusal , i was present india, so i went to my bank and got a letter from them .And when i arrived Uk , i handed it over to my solicitor.She has sent it to HO for review. my wife is given a right to appeal . like mentioned above , according to entry clearance officer, he couldn't see any documents stating the relationship between me and father n obviously the logo was missing.my wifes statement were more than 30 days old.

Now do you think i should wait till mid September (that when the HO will let us know the Appeal process and find out more about the hearings) or should i just withdraw my appeal and start from scratch and start maintaining funds from now onwards for next three months and re-apply.

i m sorry to fire you with al the question, but i hope you can understand my confusion .

[[iD]]

thanxs for a quick reply , much appreciated
so in other words , its shouldnt be a problem to show funds in joint account with my father, right?
When my wife got the refusal , i was present india, so i went to my bank and got a letter from them .And when i arrived Uk , i handed it over to my solicitor.She has sent it to HO for review. my wife is given a right to appeal . like mentioned above , according to entry clearance officer, he couldn't see any documents stating the relationship between me and father n obviously the logo was missing.my wifes statement were more than 30 days old.

Now do you think i should wait till mid September (that when the HO will let us know the Appeal process and find out more about the hearings) or should i just withdraw my appeal and start from scratch and start maintaining funds from now onwards for next three months and re-apply.

i m sorry to fire you with al the question, but i hope you can understand my confusion .

I don't know why they're tryin to establish the relationship between your wife and your dad as it shouldn't concern them as it has nothin to do with your case. Even if they want to establish a connection tell them to have a look at your marriage certificate you might have provided, it should have your dad's name.

On the other hand if joint account didn't have full maintenance funds and you asked them to combine that account and your wife's account then you have a problem since her bank statements were too old

I wouldn't withdraw my appeal if I were you but it's your decision.

[Son_of_Soil]

thanxs for a quick reply , much appreciated
so in other words , its shouldnt be a problem to show funds in joint account with my father, right?
When my wife got the refusal , i was present india, so i went to my bank and got a letter from them .And when i arrived Uk , i handed it over to my solicitor.She has sent it to HO for review. my wife is given a right to appeal . like mentioned above , according to entry clearance officer, he couldn't see any documents stating the relationship between me and father n obviously the logo was missing.my wifes statement were more than 30 days old.

Now do you think i should wait till mid September (that when the HO will let us know the Appeal process and find out more about the hearings) or should i just withdraw my appeal and start from scratch and start maintaining funds from now onwards for next three months and re-apply.

i m sorry to fire you with al the question, but i hope you can understand my confusion .

I don't know why they're tryin to establish the relationship between your wife and your dad as it shouldn't concern them as it has nothin to do with your case. Even if they want to establish a connection tell them to have a look at your marriage certificate you might have provided, it should have your dad's name.

On the other hand if joint account didn't have full maintenance funds and you asked them to combine that account and your wife's account then you have a problem since her bank statements were too old

I wouldn't withdraw my appeal if I were you but it's your decision.

Dear iD , i think you still didnt understand my query,
Entry clearence offfice wanted to establish relationship between me and my father, not my father and my wife.as on bank statements, all it said was my name and my father names, so they wanted to know know who is the person i am having a joint account with?

so now all i am concerned about is that did i make a mistake by showing joint account funds with my dad? is it acceptable ? teh guide line says

funds can be in either in main applicant (which is me)and/or family member of main applicant who is appllying(which is my wife in this case)


I am seeking some urgent help as i need to take a very big decision wheater to go ahead with apeal or to do a fresh application.

[[iD]]

Dear iD , i think you still didnt understand my query,
Entry clearence offfice wanted to establish relationship between me and my father, not my father and my wife.as on bank statements, all it said was my name and my father names, so they wanted to know know who is the person i am having a joint account with?

so now all i am concerned about is that did i make a mistake by showing joint account funds with my dad? is it acceptable ? teh guide line says

funds can be in either in main applicant (which is me)and/or family member of main applicant who is appllying(which is my wife in this case)


I am seeking some urgent help as i need to take a very big decision wheater to go ahead with apeal or to do a fresh application.

Again, what's important that you are on the account it doesn't and shouldn't matter who you're having the account with (it could be anyone). The caseworkers query on realtionship with the other account holder is just wrong and out of his bounds!
but if they still wanna establish a link between you and the other account holder you can clearly ask them to check the marriage certificate if it mentions your dad as your dad.

[sapvish]

Son of Soil....ok... i guess i understand your query.... As per the rules, I think you cannot support wife's tier 1 dependant visa based on your joint account with your dad. If you and your wife had joint account then that would have been valid....

Your wife's visa was not rejected bcos of logo.. it was mainly bcos UK visa guys obviously felt that you are using your dad's funds as basis for ur wife's visa. Even if your relation with ur dad was showed i guess it wouldn't have worked..
Second.. even when you are showing funds that is in ur name or joint account with your wife.. its always better to generate an account statement that is very latest.. exmaple 2 or 3 days or atleast a week before your application date, although in rules they mention that 1 month from application date is fine. This is not always mandatory but safer. I strongly feel the reason for rejection is fund account holders.

As per the clause:
85. If the applicant wishes to rely on a joint account as evidence of available funds, he/she, the main applicant, or (for children) his/her other parent who is
legally present in the United Kingdom, must be named on the account along with one or more other named individual(s).

In point 85 children is reference to those children whose parents are residing in UK.

[Son_of_Soil]

Son of Soil....ok... i guess i understand your query.... As per the rules, I think you cannot support wife's tier 1 dependant visa based on your joint account with your dad. If you and your wife had joint account then that would have been valid....

Your wife's visa was not rejected bcos of logo.. it was mainly bcos UK visa guys obviously felt that you are using your dad's funds as basis for ur wife's visa. Even if your relation with ur dad was showed i guess it wouldn't have worked..
Second.. even when you are showing funds that is in ur name or joint account with your wife.. its always better to generate an account statement that is very latest.. exmaple 2 or 3 days or atleast a week before your application date, although in rules they mention that 1 month from application date is fine. This is not always mandatory but safer. I strongly feel the reason for rejection is fund account holders.

As per the clause:
85. If the applicant wishes to rely on a joint account as evidence of available funds, he/she, the main applicant, or (for children) his/her other parent who is
legally present in the United Kingdom, must be named on the account along with one or more other named individual(s).

In point 85 children is reference to those children whose parents are residing in UK.

Thanxe very much for your reponse. i feel the same that clearence office was not sure about the fund. However, after it got rejected, i got a letter from my bank stating the relationship and giving authority to use the accounts funds, its like a NOC. when i returned to uk i handed that over to my solicitor,who then sent it to HO.so i am waiting for review's decison
As per rules if applying from outside UK, each dependent must shw £533 in possession , that could be in dependent's or main applicants account. and i had £1277. I made a mistake by attaching my wife statements just to show that even thou i meet the funds requirement, she has some funds avaialble too and that turned out to be reason for her statement being older than 30 days.

i spoke to my solicitor yesterday , and she said she will defend teh case by saying that main applicant( me0 already meet the funds in possession requirement for £533, so they can skip my wifes extra bank statements.and by showing the NOC from father
what are you thouhts behind it? do you think HO points are defendable?

thanks very much for taking timee in reading this thread.

[Son_of_Soil]

Dear iD , i think you still didnt understand my query,
Entry clearence offfice wanted to establish relationship between me and my father, not my father and my wife.as on bank statements, all it said was my name and my father names, so they wanted to know know who is the person i am having a joint account with?

so now all i am concerned about is that did i make a mistake by showing joint account funds with my dad? is it acceptable ? teh guide line says

funds can be in either in main applicant (which is me)and/or family member of main applicant who is appllying(which is my wife in this case)


I am seeking some urgent help as i need to take a very big decision wheater to go ahead with apeal or to do a fresh application.

Again, what's important that you are on the account it doesn't and shouldn't matter who you're having the account with (it could be anyone). The caseworkers query on realtionship with the other account holder is just wrong and out of his bounds!
but if they still wanna establish a link between you and the other account holder you can clearly ask them to check the marriage certificate if it mentions your dad as your dad.

i know thats very silly of them , even on my passport ,they could check the names but i guess they were concerned about the funds more. So i have sent a letter from my bank stating the relationship . Do you think HO look at the reviews? its been more than 4 weeks, i have received a letter saying they will write to me after 24th aug in regards to my appeal. if they look at the review, it might not go to appeal. I m not sure if they look at these reviews.

[gupta.manish82]

Sorry posted wrongly...

[mantasingh]

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