entitled or not for work permit & right of abode

[RomeoZulu]

Hi everyone I would like to know from someone who has a similar case like mine.
In brief my grand father - father of my mother - was born in the UK to a british mother in around 1920 then he is british by default and my mother is british by descent (she is born & live outside the UK in a country that has no privileges ...received her british psprt in march 2006) ok! now I know that nationality can only by transmitted for 1 generation and I am born before 1983 outside the UK

Applicants born outside the United Kingdom before 1 January 1983

Eligibility can only be claimed through the father's line. British nationality is transmitted one generation by descent to an applicant born overseas with a United Kingdom born father. A claim does not usually extend to a United Kingdom born grandfather.

...but what about right of abode & work permit doesn't my situation entitle me for that !?

I am sure I heared somewhere that I can ...any help is appreciated,thanx.

[JAJ]

...but what about right of abode & work permit doesn't my situation entitle me for that !?

I am sure I heared somewhere that I can ...any help is appreciated,thanx.

If you are a citizen of a Commonwealth nation you appear to be eligible for the Ancestry Visa: http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk

You can work in the United Kingdom for 5 years and then obtain permanent residence (indefinite leave to remain). After one further year you can become naturalised British.

Where in the United Kingdom was your grandfather born?

[RomeoZulu]

my grandfather was born in south Manchester and my mother was born in Egypt
...but I am looking for entitlement through my mother if there is such

[ppron747]

You have not said what citizenship you hold. If you are Egyptian, then Egypt is not a member of the Commonwealth, and you have no eligibility for a UK Ancestry visa.

What year was your mother born?

[RomeoZulu]

I am Egyptian born 1980 ...my mother born Egyptian in 1954 but later this year she asked for her british psprt and received it.
I know that Egypt is not a member of the Commonwealth ...maybe there could be something about the children of the british mother

[ppron747]

Sorry, no - there is a provision introduced a couple of years ago, entitling some people born between 1961 and the end of 1982 to be registered as British citizens, but it depends on the person being in a position whereby they would have been British by descent if women had been able to transmit British nationality at the time of their birth.

The reason you are not eligible is that your mother was British by descent herself at the time of your birth, so even if women had been able to transmit citizenship in 1980, she wouldn't have been able to pass it on you.

Very sorry - the only concession in the Immigration Rules that is open to non-British nationals with UK ancestry is the UK Ancestry visa, which is only available to Commonwealth citizens...

[RomeoZulu]

Sorry, no - there is a provision introduced a couple of years ago, entitling some people born between 1961 and the end of 1982 to be registered as British citizens, but it depends on the person being in a position whereby they would have been British by descent if women had been able to transmit British nationality at the time of their birth.

The reason you are not eligible is that your mother was British by descent herself at the time of your birth, so even if women had been able to transmit citizenship in 1980, she wouldn't have been able to pass it on you.

I agree but aren't you talkin here about elegiblity for british nationality.

You are totally right they won't be able to transmit citizenship but I don't accept to believe that the children can't live with their mother if she decides to live in the UK logically they will have a special situation.
They don't get the citizenship obviously but ...

I don't think that is bottom line there is something left or is it just me !!?

[ppron747]

Yes - I am talking here about British nationality - and also the ability to live in UK independently - eg on a UK Ancestry visa.

You haven't until now mentioned the possibility of your mother choosing to move to the UK, and I'll leave someone else to give a view as to whether a ?26/27 year old Egyptian living in the country of his birth can use the fact that his British citizen mother moves to the UK to move to the UK himself.

[John]

.... I'll leave someone else to give a view as to whether a ?26/27 year old Egyptian living in the country of his birth can use the fact that his British citizen mother moves to the UK to move to the UK himself.

I suspect the answer is no. Indeed the answer is no, unless for some very strange reason the 26/27 year old is still dependent on his mother.

In other words, say for an 18 or 19 year old say studying at University and still reliant on parent(s), yes this can work, even though that student is already classed as an adult .... but for a 26/27 year old? RomeoZulu, would I be correct in thinking that you are working and economically self-sufficient?

[RomeoZulu]

unless for some very strange reason the 26/27 year old is still dependent on his mother.

or maybe just because he is a family member, wouldn't that be a good reason ?

[John]

No

[RomeoZulu]

thanks all who replied you are best described as respected people thanx again for your generous help as so I didn't get the answer I wanted to hear but u've been a great support

[ppron747]

Cheers RZ - sorry we couldn't come up with a more favourable answer....

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