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But it says on Justice.gov.uk webiste that after refusal of permission by upper tribunal to appeal to upper tribunal, Further application can be made to upper tribunal to get permission to appeal to court of appeal. if they don't give permission. an appelant can go directly to court of appeal ?Obie wrote:Well a refusal of permission to appeal to the Upper Tribunal to appeal to the Upper Tribunal, is an excluded decision and hence cannot be appealed to the Court of Appeal.
You only option is to JR the upper tribunal refusal to grant you permission.
Such application can only succeed if your JR meet the Seconds appeal test. This is whether there are important point of principle or practice, or whether there are compelling reasons why the case should be heard.
It is quite a stringent test. Simply pointing error of law is not enough. There has to be more.
I will advice you seek an expert opinion on this before proceeding, as this process can be quite costly.
Obie wrote:That is not correct. I am sure you did not read that from the Justice ministry website.
If the upper tribunal refuse you permission to appeal to them, you can only challenge such refusal by means of Judicial review.
If you had permission to appeal to the Upper Tribunal and your appeal was dismissed, then you can challenge this at the Court of Appeal.
Just read it on google and it says what you said above that my appeal must be heard at upper tribunal and been dismissed in order to seek permission. but my appeal hasn't been heard. I have done a mistake here as i have already send the "permission to appeal to court of appeal letter " to upper tribunal . Now will they reject it staright away or they won't take any action on it. Can i withdraw that letter by phoning them or will this letter effect my judicial review if i decided to go on that.Obie wrote:That is not correct. I am sure you did not read that from the Justice ministry website.
If the upper tribunal refuse you permission to appeal to them, you can only challenge such refusal by means of Judicial review.
If you had permission to appeal to the Upper Tribunal and your appeal was dismissed, then you can challenge this at the Court of Appeal.
Thanks for the clarification obbie. Sure i decided to seek legal advice but it is way too expensive. so from the last 2 days i have searched google and lots of lots of information about judicial review and how to file it. I am almost 70 % done with it and hopefully will file it in next 2 days from my self. As forms are not so complicated it is quite straight forward as i am in touch with all rules and regulations of courts system right from first tier tribunal.Obie wrote:The 16 days deadline is indeed true.
I advised you previously to seek proper legal advice from a qualified firm, as this is a complex area of law.
Also see rule 54.7A