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Re: ILR / FLR ?

Post by Damanisshallo » Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:13 pm

saanju9 wrote:My solicitor whom I believe to a large extent says that the PBS dependent is the new way to apply... what do u guys suggest
Settlement Ops wrote: the PBS migrant obtained ILR under the long residency provisions. Therefore, their partner would not be eligible to apply for ILR under paragraph 319E and would need to apply to "switch" and submit form FLR(M) for further leave to remain.
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Post by aksi » Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:39 pm

I applied for ILR in August and awaiting decision.
My wife's visa PBS dependent is running out and she is applying for extension FLR(M).
Pls cofirm: I have a daughter born in October 2012 and I understand she is eligible for British citizenship once I got my ILR.
Question: Do my wife still need to fill section 4 of FLR(M) (i.e 4.1 Yes, 4.2: No, 4.3: No, 4.4: No)
Question: Then what Nationality etc to fill in 4.6 E to J

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Re: ILR / FLR ?

Post by saanju9 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:47 pm

Damanisshallo wrote:
saanju9 wrote:My solicitor whom I believe to a large extent says that the PBS dependent is the new way to apply... what do u guys suggest
Settlement Ops wrote: the PBS migrant obtained ILR under the long residency provisions. Therefore, their partner would not be eligible to apply for ILR under paragraph 319E and would need to apply to "switch" and submit form FLR(M) for further leave to remain.

Yeah Damani, but that was the case in June/ July 2012. Apparently these rules have been changed in Dec 2012. Read para 2 and 3 in the PBS Dependent link. Do you have any other documentation from UKBA. I will try to call them tomorrow but If you got an email address to the UKBA, that will be appreciated. secondly, how long do you think they will respond if I email them

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Post by saanju9 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:16 am

Hi there

Can anyone please give me documents checklist for FLR(M) for my wife's application

Is there any threshold on the bank balances

My case: I applied for ILR on 10 yrs Long Resi basis.
Previously on Tier 1 General
My wife works here. I work here

Help will be appreciated

thanks a lot

Saanju

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Re: ILR / FLR ?

Post by Damanisshallo » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:29 am

saanju9 wrote:Apparently these rules have been changed in Dec 2012.
The below query was replied on 11/January/2013
Settlement Ops wrote:Dependants of Points Based System (PBS) Migrants

Q. I am the dependant of a PBS Migrant who has now become settled in the UK. Do I need to switch into the ‘Partner of a Settled Person’ category?

A. This will depend on how the PBS Migrant applied for settlement. If they were granted on the basis of being a PBS Migrant (under Tier 1 or Tier 2) then you will not need to switch and you can apply for an extension as a PBS dependant until you meet the requirements for settlement yourself.

If the PBS Migrant applied for settlement under the Long Residency provision, then you can no longer be considered as a PBS Dependant and you must apply for Leave to Remain as the ‘Partner of a Settled Person’ on application form FLR(M).
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Post by Damanisshallo » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:36 am

saanju9 wrote:Hi there

Can anyone please give me documents checklist for FLR(M) for my wife's application

Is there any threshold on the bank balances

My case: I applied for ILR on 10 yrs Long Resi basis.
Previously on Tier 1 General
My wife works here. I work here

Help will be appreciated

thanks a lot

Saanju
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Post by saanju9 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:39 am

Thanks Daminshallo

I just called UKBA and confirmed that what we are following in this forum is 100% correct. I am about to suggest my solicitor.

Anyways,

a question again.

for the rules for FLR(M) before 9th July. How many sources of evidence do we need to show for the income. ( did they specified anywhere that we have to show more than 1 source of evidence for our income)

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Post by Damanisshallo » Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:09 am

saanju9 wrote:for the rules for FLR(M) before 9th July. How many sources of evidence do we need to show for the income. ( did they specified anywhere that we have to show more than 1 source of evidence for our income)
Please refer to
FAMILY MEMBERS - MAINTENANCE AND ACCOMMODATION
TRANSITIONAL PROVISIONS

Further, I'd say provide them with as many documents as possible, which can prove your Maintenance & Accommodation.
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flrm query

Post by mmakhan » Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:56 pm

this forum has been very very helpful.
SET O
application posted:6/09/2012
biometrics enrolled:13/11/2012
EVERYTHING ELSE WAITING
when i received my biometric invitation letter i received a document which has target dates in it and i m sure dat was an internal document which was not intended to be senT.however it had my name,nationality,dob,application reference,caseworkers name,70 day target date: 11/01/2013.
initially i thought they r gonna complete my case by 11/01/2013 but i was wrong.anyway my wife and my child's visa is gonna expire in march i just hope i get my ilr before dat inshallah. BELOW R MY QUERIES:
1.can someone confirm the documents I mentioned r enough to be sent with my wife's application
flrm application form
photographs
bank statements for 6 months showing my earnings and savings
a1 level test pass certificate
past 6 months payslips
letter from my employer confirming earnings
proof of my ilr approval.
marriage certificate.
2.she has been my dependant partner for 4 and half years now.does she has to wait 5 more years on flrm then apply for ilr or is there any other option.
3.i will be using mn1 form for my daughter does she need to have visa for dat as her current leave will expire in march.
EVERYTHING IS DEPENDING ON MY APPLICATION REALLY WORRIED FOR MY FAMILY MORE THAN ANYTHING.

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Post by aksi » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:09 pm

Hi

I applied for ILR in August and awaiting decision.
My wife's visa PBS dependent is running out and she is applying for extension FLR(M).
Pls cofirm: I have a daughter born in October 2012 and I understand she is eligible for British citizenship once I got my ILR.
Question: Do my wife still need to fill section 4 of FLR(M) (i.e 4.1 Yes, 4.2: No, 4.3: No, 4.4: No)
Question: Then what Nationality etc to fill in 4.6 E to J

Thanks

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Re: flrm query

Post by saanju9 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:17 pm

mmakhan wrote:this forum has been very very helpful.
SET O
application posted:6/09/2012
biometrics enrolled:13/11/2012
EVERYTHING ELSE WAITING
when i received my biometric invitation letter i received a document which has target dates in it and i m sure dat was an internal document which was not intended to be senT.however it had my name,nationality,dob,application reference,caseworkers name,70 day target date: 11/01/2013.
initially i thought they r gonna complete my case by 11/01/2013 but i was wrong.anyway my wife and my child's visa is gonna expire in march i just hope i get my ilr before dat inshallah. BELOW R MY QUERIES:
1.can someone confirm the documents I mentioned r enough to be sent with my wife's application
flrm application form
photographs
bank statements for 6 months showing my earnings and savings
a1 level test pass certificate
past 6 months payslips
letter from my employer confirming earnings
proof of my ilr approval.
marriage certificate.
2.she has been my dependant partner for 4 and half years now.does she has to wait 5 more years on flrm then apply for ilr or is there any other option.
3.i will be using mn1 form for my daughter does she need to have visa for dat as her current leave will expire in march.
EVERYTHING IS DEPENDING ON MY APPLICATION REALLY WORRIED FOR MY FAMILY MORE THAN ANYTHING.

Could you also tell us what her previous dependent visa is on

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Re: flrm query

Post by mmakhan » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:35 pm

saanju9 wrote:
mmakhan wrote:this forum has been very very helpful.
SET O
application posted:6/09/2012
biometrics enrolled:13/11/2012
EVERYTHING ELSE WAITING
when i received my biometric invitation letter i received a document which has target dates in it and i m sure dat was an internal document which was not intended to be senT.however it had my name,nationality,dob,application reference,caseworkers name,70 day target date: 11/01/2013.
initially i thought they r gonna complete my case by 11/01/2013 but i was wrong.anyway my wife and my child's visa is gonna expire in march i just hope i get my ilr before dat inshallah. BELOW R MY QUERIES:
1.can someone confirm the documents I mentioned r enough to be sent with my wife's application
flrm application form
photographs
bank statements for 6 months showing my earnings and savings
a1 level test pass certificate
past 6 months payslips
letter from my employer confirming earnings
proof of my ilr approval.
marriage certificate.
2.she has been my dependant partner for 4 and half years now.does she has to wait 5 more years on flrm then apply for ilr or is there any other option.
3.i will be using mn1 form for my daughter does she need to have visa for dat as her current leave will expire in march.
EVERYTHING IS DEPENDING ON MY APPLICATION REALLY WORRIED FOR MY FAMILY MORE THAN ANYTHING.
she is teir 1 general dependant
Could you also tell us what her previous dependent visa is on

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Post by saanju9 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:44 pm

aksi wrote:Hi

I applied for ILR in August and awaiting decision.
My wife's visa PBS dependent is running out and she is applying for extension FLR(M).
Pls cofirm: I have a daughter born in October 2012 and I understand she is eligible for British citizenship once I got my ILR.
Question: Do my wife still need to fill section 4 of FLR(M) (i.e 4.1 Yes, 4.2: No, 4.3: No, 4.4: No)
Question: Then what Nationality etc to fill in 4.6 E to J

Thanks
Read Part 8 Children, you might get some information on what nationality your child will be or if he/she needs an immigration control.

also read documents for children in the following link

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitec ... schapter8/
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Re: flrm query

Post by saanju9 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:47 pm

she is teir 1 general dependant
Could you also tell us what her previous dependent visa is on

She doesn't need to wait 5 years because she fells under rules before 9th july 2012. however, since when was she a PBS(tier 1) dependent.

With regards to the document I am in the same boat. but I am submitting only 3 months worth and not even submitting my bank statement. read the document Damanishallo posted for me in the previous posts

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Post by Damanisshallo » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:54 pm

For documents, have a thorough read through all the sub-sections under Partners who applied on or before 8 July 2012 on the LHS pane
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Re: flrm query

Post by mmakhan » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:08 pm

saanju9 wrote:
she is teir 1 general dependant
Could you also tell us what her previous dependent visa is on

She doesn't need to wait 5 years because she fells under rules before 9th july 2012. however, since when was she a PBS(tier 1) dependent.

With regards to the document I am in the same boat. but I am submitting only 3 months worth and not even submitting my bank statement. read the document Damanishallo posted for me in the previous posts
thanks a lot bro for ur response previously she was psw dependant then we applied for teir 1 general currently her status is teir 1 general dependant partner.so after flrm when can i apply for her ilr and do i have to use set m form

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Letter template for long stay dependents

Post by Ged » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:17 pm

Hi All,
I have a feeling that like most of you, my 10 year long stay application will not be resolved before my Tier 1 leave ends, therefore, my wife will not be able to use the PEO premium service for her FLR, so I have to apply via post for her as well.

I remember some people mentioning that there is a letter template somewhere in this forum which can be used for dependent's FLR(M) application while waiting for the ILR for the main applicant via 10 years category.

So far I failed to find it. Can somebody kindly show me the direction to that template if it indeed exists?

Many thanks...

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Re: Letter template for long stay dependents

Post by Damanisshallo » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:20 pm

Ged wrote:So far I failed to find it. Can somebody kindly show me the direction to that template if it indeed exists?
Hope this serves your purpose
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Re: Letter template for long stay dependents

Post by Ged » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:26 pm

Damanisshallo wrote:
Ged wrote:So far I failed to find it. Can somebody kindly show me the direction to that template if it indeed exists?
Hope this serves your purpose
Thanks for your help.

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Post by specy_99 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:10 pm

I called the UKBA today and the lady told me that it is taking them more than 6 months to process the applications...so I should really expect it straight after 6 months are complete.

Why is nothing done about the poor service we get?? when the fee is so expensive £991 by post is like a months salary to most! and I expect UKBA to deliver what they say!!

'95% of applications are dealt within 6 months'

Rant over

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Post by specy_99 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:11 pm

Correction:

'I shouldnt expect it straight away after 6 months are complete'.

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Post by aksi » Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:27 pm

elcanja wrote:Hi everyone...

I was wondering if anyone could help me out on a couple of things...

Like many here, I'm also anxiously waiting on a 10 year ILR application. I applied on the 2nd of August, got my by biometrics done end of September and since then, well, torture.... :)

My first question is along the lines of a recent discussion. Currently I'm on a student visa, my wife on a student dependant visa and I just had a baby 8 months ago which currently has no status. My original idea was that as soon as I got my ILR, I would apply for a new visa for my wife - FLR(M) - and register my baby as a British Citizen, she was born here.
However, as the decision is taking a lot longer than expected and I have a trip planned for the beginning of February - considering I will get my IRL in time - I would not have sufficient time to get my baby's citizenship sorted out. At best, I'll be able to book a premium service appointment and get my wife's spouse visa in time for the trip. I know I can include my child as dependant on the FLR(M) application but that would incur more costs and an increase in the financial requirements.
So the question actually is, if when returning to the UK only myself and my wife have valid visas, how likely is that the officer will see a problem in the baby not having a valid visa? Bearing in mind she was born here, that I'll have ILR and my wife a spouse visa.


The second question is about the financial requirements of the FLR(M). I know it says £18.600 + £3.800 for the first child. My wife is on a 20K + commission contract for a few years now, her P60 for 2010 - 2011 shows £22.500 in total and for 2011 - 2012 it shows £22.150. However, due to the child she has been on maternity leave for 9 - 10 months now. My doubt is what will the HO actually take into account with regards to evidence of earnings in the last 6 months. Will they consider the amount on her contract or will they consider only the maternity pay? Does anyone know?


Sorry about the rambling and thanks in advance...

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In such a case, is the child born while awaiting for ILR decision, is free from immigration control.
My child is born while awaiting decision for ILR, and now my wife applying FLR(M), shall we skip including child in FLR(M) as explained in Q29 at http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=79378

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job offer

Post by nats » Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:30 pm

I have applied my ILR in July based on 10 year long residency. I was on student visa (expiry in August 2012) with restricted work 20 hours a week, I gone through so many interviews as I was expecting my ILR in December or hopefully in January. Finally I got a job offer which require 37.5 working hours. and they asked for my documents. I have already delayed them for 2 weeks but I cant hold them for long. I need to respond them by this weekend. I am really worried about this job.My college has been closed and I have nothing to study. Still I cant work for more than 20 hours?? I called HO so many times about my application progress but the answer is same "I have to wait, its under process". They dont care about anyone's life or career. Can anyone help me out or guide me. Is there any way that I can join that job. I can show them my passport, my ILR acknowledgement letter or Biometric invitation letter. Should I tell them that I have applied ILR and its already 6 months? or Should I call HO and tell them that I got full time job offer and my college is closed(UKBA should be already aware as college is out of their list) and I have no classes to attend? Please help me some way out.

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Section 3C & 3D with Case study

Post by Damanisshallo » Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:02 pm

nats wrote:I have applied my ILR in July based on 10 year long residency. I was on student visa (expiry in August 2012) with restricted work 20 hours a week, I gone through so many interviews as I was expecting my ILR in December or hopefully in January. Finally I got a job offer which require 37.5 working hours. and they asked for my documents. I have already delayed them for 2 weeks but I cant hold them for long. I need to respond them by this weekend. I am really worried about this job.My college has been closed and I have nothing to study. Still I cant work for more than 20 hours?? I called HO so many times about my application progress but the answer is same "I have to wait, its under process". They dont care about anyone's life or career. Can anyone help me out or guide me. Is there any way that I can join that job. I can show them my passport, my ILR acknowledgement letter or Biometric invitation letter. Should I tell them that I have applied ILR and its already 6 months? or Should I call HO and tell them that I got full time job offer and my college is closed(UKBA should be already aware as college is out of their list) and I have no classes to attend? Please help me some way out.
Since you've already submitted your biometrics you should be on the system. Please give them (Your Employer) this. However if they hesitate to help you out take this along with your Acknowledgement & Biometric invitation letter and ask them to have a look at Frequently Asked Questions->What is my immigration status while my application is being decided? from the link.

You can also show them section 3C of the Immigration Act 1971 from the Legislation.

But I also need to warn you that in-spite of having so many evidences, it purely depends on your luck and the person you are talking to. Coz not all HR's are well qualified. So Good luck. Also tell your employer that they request a response from UKBA using ECS and once they get a positive response it can be used for 12 months.

Also, somehow if you can manage to prove that you've completed your studies, you should be able to work full time.

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Post by Damanisshallo » Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:17 pm

aksi wrote: shall we skip including child in FLR(M) as explained in Q29 at http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=79378
Yes, and then use MN1 application for your child.
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