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EEA3 for EU family members

Post by boloney » Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:07 pm

Hi.
My brother have confirmation of PR. He is about to apply now for his family (wife, 3 kids). They all Polish citizens. His wife never worked, she qualify because he was working all this time. Question is:
on the first page should they fill up her details (he is not applying because did so in past) and kids on page two (2)?
or they still have to give his details on page 1 and all others family members on page two (2) ?
also anyone knows what evidence for will suffice HO?
he will be sending his PR confirmation and passport so no other paperwork required from his history. But what about his wife? will letters from GP, dentist suffice?
regarding kids, letters from nursery, school?
thanks for advice

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Post by EUsmileWEallsmile » Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:23 pm

The form does not always cover every possible permutation. The important point is the evidence.

Your brother has PR. That's evidence enough of treaty rights.

His wife and children need to demonstrate that they lived legally in the UK for the required period, generally five years. The items you quote will help.

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Post by boloney » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:01 pm

EUsmileWEallsmile wrote:The form does not always cover every possible permutation. The important point is the evidence.

Your brother has PR. That's evidence enough of treaty rights.

His wife and children need to demonstrate that they lived legally in the UK for the required period, generally five years. The items you quote will help.
Thanka EUsmileWEallsmile
do you think itwill be enough for HO to issue PR for them? ifnot what should they they get? two of hid kids were born in the UK (I know they can be registered as BC right now but he does`t wanna do it right now).
what else should he send to cover EEA3 form?
he can provide evidence covering from 2004 till now that he was worker/self-employed but what about them?

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Post by EUsmileWEallsmile » Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:41 pm

Family members just need to demonstrate that they lived in the UK for the required time.

The EU national, that they exercised treaty rights - already done in your brother's case.

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Re: EEA3 for EU family members

Post by Jambo » Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:16 am

boloney wrote:on the first page should they fill up her details (he is not applying because did so in past) and kids on page two (2)?
or they still have to give his details on page 1 and all others family members on page two (2) ?
Her details in section 1, kids in section 2, his details in section 3. Please note that only kids over 5 can apply as only them could have spent more than 5 years in the UK. Anyway, for kids PR is meaningless.
also anyone knows what evidence for will suffice HO?
he will be sending his PR confirmation and passport so no other paperwork required from his history. But what about his wife? will letters from GP, dentist suffice?
as long as his pr is less than 2 years old, his PR card and passport are enough. On the EEA4 form in section 7, you can tick a box that the EEA national has PR so you can skip this section. For some reason, they removed this from EEA3.
Utility bills, tenancy agreements, GP letter would be accepted. For kids, letters from
school would be accepted.

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Re: EEA3 for EU family members

Post by boloney » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:18 am

thanks EUsmileWEallsmile and Jambo
His PR card was issued last year but it was based I think on years 2005-2010. should we send the evidence that covers last 5 years, or thats irrelevant?
one of his kids will be 5 years old in May this year should we skip her application or do you think they will get it done anyway?
he needs to get it done for his oldest daughter, she was born in Poland and will be 16 this year. she maybe applying for naturalization when she turn 18 so PR card will be handy in her case to demonstrate that she is settled.

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Post by EUsmileWEallsmile » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:00 am

PR once attained is only lost following two years' absence, so for one issued last year this won't matter.

Perhaps, he could delay until the child is 5?

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Post by boloney » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:19 am

EUsmileWEallsmile wrote:PR once attained is only lost following two years' absence, so for one issued last year this won't matter.

Perhaps, he could delay until the child is 5?
He was about to delay but from april they will charge for it. As others qualify for it he decided to go ahead with it now. They should't refuse all applicants because one don't qualify should they? One more question, kids Have few passport (they were only valid for 12 months periods) does HO need all of them (even expired) or last one will be enough? (that for kids who were born in the UK so they never entered UK).

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Post by Jambo » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:41 am

They will not charge from April as it requires changes in legislation. It was just announced as part of the new fees effective April but it was stated it will only happen later this year. I still doubt they have a legal basis to charge.

It's worth to apply for PR for the 16 yo. For the 5 years old, even if not delayed, he would probably reach 5 by the time a decision is made so should be OK. Worst case, they will issue PR to everyone apart from the 5 yo.

Only valid passport is enough.

As long as the PR issue date is less than 2 years, it OK. It doesn't matter which evidence was used to obtain it.

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Post by boloney » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:29 pm

Jambo wrote:They will not charge from April as it requires changes in legislation. It was just announced as part of the new fees effective April but it was stated it will only happen later this year. .
I have missed that point. So it maybe wort registering two born in the UK as BC now because fees for that going up £351 from April.
Thanks for clarification.

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