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nmm · Post by **nmm** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:12 pm

I printed and filled the AN & MN1 forms in early September. I also got it filled from two referees. Today I discovered that these forms have been changed, although there are minor changes, but page numbering are changed and new instructions have been added. Now I need to chase all referees to fill the reference page again as there are also some changes.

I am wondering is there any date for new forms to be applicable or do we have to use them them as soon as they available?

Thanks

nionlight · Post by **nionlight** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:48 pm

nmm wrote:I printed and filled the AN & MN1 forms in early September. I also got it filled from two referees. Today I discovered that these forms have been changed, although there are minor changes, but page numbering are changed and new instructions have been added. Now I need to chase all referees to fill the reference page again as there are also some changes.

I am wondering is there any date for new forms to be applicable or do we have to use them them as soon as they available?

Thanks

No one knows yet mate. As usual ukba is piece of SH.. about clear cut instruction. They are expert on making things complicated. I am also in same situation. filled up previous form with referees

now need to chase them again

akhan25 · Post by **akhan25** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:48 pm

The references page is still same and just print the result if u want if u r applying before 28oct u can use old form as the main changes are relating to the new rules I had ncs aappointment today for myself and they didnt even say a thing I given old form I know foa can be change anytime so I checked ut last night amd it was old fo now this morning new form but not a single thing mentioned on ukba website to instruct whether old can still b used or only new forms u may wanna call council ncs amd ask.

akhan25 · Post by **akhan25** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:50 pm

What about me I just submitted my application through ncs they dodnt say a thing I cgecked last night was still same old form. They must give some grace period for ppl involved obviously for reference u wud have ur form printed a bit early than appointment.

desertlord · Post by **desertlord** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:04 am

New from reference Page number is 14 on the new and 11 on the old so better to stick to the new form.

renu · Post by **renu** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:00 am

desertlord wrote:New from reference Page number is 14 on the new and 11 on the old so better to stick to the new form.

I have my ncs appointment on Monday and I have already completed my application,,,does that mean I have to fill in the new form...I am so confused now...

nionlight · Post by **nionlight** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:09 am

renu wrote:
desertlord wrote:New from reference Page number is 14 on the new and 11 on the old so better to stick to the new form.
I have my ncs appointment on Monday and I have already completed my application,,,does that mean I have to fill in the new form...I am so confused now...

We all are confused unfortunately

and that's what UKBA always does.. confuses hell out of applicants. Their instructions are as usual useless.. In the form it says September 2013 and they uploaded it in October without any instruction...

desertlord · Post by **desertlord** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:10 am

guys,

Just spoke to NCS and they will accept the new form ONLY

Tuvoc · Post by **Tuvoc** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:55 am

desertlord wrote:guys,

Just spoke to NCS and they will accept the new form ONLY

Thanks, that is very helpful. I'm in the same boat, I was going to call them today.

renu · Post by **renu** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:47 am

Tuvoc wrote:
desertlord wrote:guys,

Just spoke to NCS and they will accept the new form ONLY
Thanks, that is very helpful. I'm in the same boat, I was going to call them today.

I spoke to ncs and the lady I spoke to,told me that I can print the extra pages on the updated/ latest AN form and keep the same referees page and add the extra pages in my application...actually there is not much change.I will print new version and add the extra pages only.I can't fill the form again...

has1974 · Post by **has1974** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:55 am

Hi Everbody,
can we clearly say that we can use reference part in old application form?
however, only page number will be different.

renu · Post by **renu** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:58 am

has1974 wrote:Hi Everbody,
can we clearly say that we can use reference part in old application form?
however, only page number will be different.

Yes

desertlord · Post by **desertlord** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:11 pm

I would strongly recommend you get an offical advise on this. NCS say print and refill new form ONLY.

has1974 · Post by **has1974** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:19 pm

ok you might be right.but there is no change has been made on reference part.i will use a new application to fill in.only rerefence part will have a different page number. in my opinion my application can not be invalid because of this.

akhan25 · Post by **akhan25** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:34 pm

Guys whenever u r applying for any other categories its clearly say on application form and the guide touse correct form but on AN form its not the case I would suggest if ur appointment is near and u cant get hold of ur referees then kust go with ur old form.

UKnow · Post by **UKnow** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:25 pm

I went today for application, had the old version, they did not even look at that, went over the application, took copies of everything ( including copy of the UK life test) and left the original with me.
You do not need to worry about old version unless you apply after the 28th, which is when they need the new application form to be filled. This was confirmed to me by Hillingdon council staff

has1974 · Post by **has1974** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:40 pm

thank your for the info.did you pay for ceremony fee ?

thanks

tronca33 · Post by **tronca33** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:04 pm

I talk today with NCS for app.and she say that I can have old form.
Im leave app.for 24th October because last day when HO take old forms and just Life in uk test is 25th.
So i go send myself because the NCS do not send application day after.So probably will be on Monday .To late...

From 28 October 2013, unless they are exempt, all applicants for settlement or naturalisation as a British citizen will need to meet the knowledge of language and life requirement by:
passing the life in the UK test; and
having a speaking and listening qualification in English at B1 CEFR or higher, or its equivalent.

For details of the new requirement please see the Changes to the knowledge of language and life requirements for settlement or naturalisation document on this website.

For an application for citizenship to be considered under the pre 28 October requirements, the application will need to be received by UK Visas & Immigration by Friday 25 October 2013 (the last working day before the change). We do not receive a postal delivery on Saturday or Sunday.

UKnow · Post by **UKnow** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:42 pm

has1974 wrote:thank your for the info.did you pay for ceremony fee ?

thanks

I paid the application fee which is £874, this includes the £80 for ceremony. ( This was confirmed by the staff as well)

nmm · Post by **nmm** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:25 pm

There is no information on UKBA website about new forms.

Did anyone try to call UKBA regarding this?

desertlord · Post by **desertlord** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:36 pm

I called Ncs in London and they confirmed that the new one is to be used. The new form is NOT the same like old one. Couple of questions have been added about Good Character. Also, the format of the pages are different and they used the prompt about any additional information to be put on page 15 ( not 13) to make sure you are using the new one. There is no indication they will accept the old even if submit via NCS it is not guaranteed they will just say oh it's okay. So bottom line is in my opinion. It's your money and it's your application and finally it's your call.

desertlord · Post by **desertlord** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:37 pm

I called Ncs in London and they confirmed that the new one is to be used. The new form is NOT the same like old one. Couple of questions have been added about Good Character. Also, the format of the pages are different and they used the prompt about any additional information to be put on page 15 ( not 13) to make sure you are using the new one. There is no indication they will accept the old even if submit via NCS it is not guaranteed they will just say oh it's okay. So bottom line is in my opinion. It's your money and it's your application and finally it's your call.

Post by **Jambo** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:34 pm

Using an application form is not a legal requirement. An application can not be rejected if an old version is used. Simple.

joy2006 · Post by **joy2006** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:43 pm

desertlord wrote:I called Ncs in London and they confirmed that the new one is to be used. The new form is NOT the same like old one. Couple of questions have been added about Good Character. Also, the format of the pages are different and they used the prompt about any additional information to be put on page 15 ( not 13) to make sure you are using the new one. There is no indication they will accept the old even if submit via NCS it is not guaranteed they will just say oh it's okay. So bottom line is in my opinion. It's your money and it's your application and finally it's your call.

I agree with you, I had also filled the old form but as I have my appointment with NCS next week, to be on the safe side I have transfered the info onto the new form coz I noticed the change in the reference of the pages. I also thought of replacing the reference page with old but it was not making sense as the pages are different. HO are not daft, they will spot this inconsistance. Anyway am sticking with the new form to be on the safe side even though it's an inconvenience to ask my references to sign the new form as well. But if these references are people who wish you well, they won't mind resigning the form for you. That's just my opinion

joy2006 · Post by **joy2006** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:54 pm

Jambo wrote:Using an application form is not a legal requirement. An application can not be rejected if an old version is used. Simple.

Hi Jambo, I appreciate your comment but if these application forms are not a legal requirement, how come one cannot apply for BC without filling in a form. We could all just call HO and just state our cases over the phone without the hassle of these forms. All I am saying is that, you either submit your old form or a new one but don't get pages from old form and insert them in the new form. We should not underestimate the people receiving these forms at HO because if your form lands in the hands of a caseworker who has had a bad day, even the simplest thing like a form can trigger chaos and delays.

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