Zambrano Settled Status EU settlement scheme Paper Application Form

[snooky]

https://www.freemovement.org.uk/eu-sett ... ntroduced/
I found this article rather interesting.

Morning morning to allllllll members

The countdown has just begun for UK to finally rewrite off all its past.

Please those in Uk with EU right including Zambrano derivatives, stay out of any convictions.

This is in accordance of the article above which came as the result of 31/10/19 HC 170.

The Home Office is now going to be heavy handed from today and has brought live the worse SUITABILITY TEST TO the settlement scheme and any application received today Will be treated differently

We should all stay out of trouble

Apart from that nothing has change

[LULUBABY]

Thank you so much.

I wish I had posted sooner. I will call Praxis on Monday and try inbox you snooky if that's okay

God bless you all. my faith and hope have been renewed.

Mummy21, so sorry didn’t know we were allowed to mention Charity names. Please don’t fail to go to PRAXIS tomorrow. They helped me put in my fee waiver and application came out in super duper quick and I got Recourse to Public Funds. Oh, I feel so relieved for you. I am so happy for you. Good Luck.

[snooky]

Hi everyone, I am filing in the Zambrano application form and I need a bit of help . What do I need to give to show my dependant would have to leave with me if I left the il or the eea.
Thank you

U didnt tell that ur dependent is child or adult.
Say its child.
If its other parent is british then u need to prove that other parent who british cannot lookafter child for example he/she live out of uk or in jail or have terminal ill and unable to look after.
If both parent are third country nationals then just ur home address and child achool letter.
Good luck

The dependant is a child and father is British. Thank you mubashir . It gives me a better idea

Hello

From your questions below, and if I really understands you, is your partner who is a British not the child. Is that so?

Hi everyone, I am filing in the Zambrano application form and I need a bit of help . What do I need to give to show my dependant would have to leave with me if I left the il or the eea.
Thank you

The dependant is a child and father is British. Thank you mubashir . It gives me a better idea

[Fustrated2019]

Hi everyone, I am filing in the Zambrano application form and I need a bit of help . What do I need to give to show my dependant would have to leave with me if I left the il or the eea.
Thank you

U didnt tell that ur dependent is child or adult.
Say its child.
If its other parent is british then u need to prove that other parent who british cannot lookafter child for example he/she live out of uk or in jail or have terminal ill and unable to look after.
If both parent are third country nationals then just ur home address and child achool letter.
Good luck

The dependant is a child and father is British. Thank you mubashir . It gives me a better idea

Hello

From your questions below, and if I really understands you, is your partner who is a British not the child. Is that so?

Hi everyone, I am filing in the Zambrano application form and I need a bit of help . What do I need to give to show my dependant would have to leave with me if I left the il or the eea.
Thank you

The dependant is a child and father is British. Thank you mubashir . It gives me a better idea

No snooty i am a Zambrano carer. My ex is à British citizen and my child has a British passport

[snooky]

U didnt tell that ur dependent is child or adult.
Say its child.
If its other parent is british then u need to prove that other parent who british cannot lookafter child for example he/she live out of uk or in jail or have terminal ill and unable to look after.
If both parent are third country nationals then just ur home address and child achool letter.
Good luck

The dependant is a child and father is British. Thank you mubashir . It gives me a better idea

Hello

From your questions below, and if I really understands you, is your partner who is a British not the child. Is that so?

Hi everyone, I am filing in the Zambrano application form and I need a bit of help . What do I need to give to show my dependant would have to leave with me if I left the il or the eea.
Thank you

The dependant is a child and father is British. Thank you mubashir . It gives me a better idea

No snooty i am a Zambrano carer. My ex is à British citizen and my child has a British passport

Ok these are the required documents

Letter from school
Letter from GP
Letter from Dentist
Letter from Optician
Letter from church or Mosque

Remember these letters should contain words like

You’re the only parent that they have known and have as contact and you always bring your children for appointment

Good luck

[Obie]

In my experience letters are mostly necessary in cases were one parent is settled in the UK and the other parent who is the primary carer of the British child is non national or not settled.

However if it can be obtained, then that is good, but in cases where both parent have no status, it is much easier and those documents are not strictly speaking needed.

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

Please @Zambrano_ombudsman I have stated that this thread is not for legal argument, otherwise it will degenerate into something that was not intended.

Timelines, decisions, prior to receipt of application and thereafter. Outcome of application and reason for refusal.

Please try and restrain yourself.

You are providing incorrect information. You single me out because I challenged you.

The truth should not be restrained. It should be shared, so that people can be empowered.

[LULUBABY]

Please @Zambrano_ombudsman I have stated that this thread is not for legal argument, otherwise it will degenerate into something that was not intended.

Timelines, decisions, prior to receipt of application and thereafter. Outcome of application and reason for refusal.

Please try and restrain yourself.

You are providing incorrect information. You single me out because I challenged you.

The truth should not be restrained. It should be shared, so that people can be empowered.

Oh, not agaaaaiiiiiiinnnnnnnn..........

[Hope16]

Please dear beloved members have another question
Can I take a job offer with a COA ?it’s the long one I received in November last year I got an interview coming up on Friday but I don’t have an ID just the COA

[Toledos]

Good evening all.
I applied for pre-settled status as primary carer of British child, who is 17 now. For next cople years will be a student.
My biometrics done 26.11
COA i received dated 13.01, after i called and asked, its was sent to me.
I have current visitors visa till March 2020,i could not apply to bring my kid here under other types of visa, i could not apply stay with child under British law.
So this was only solutions.
Its very important for me to have right to work, becouse i nearly spend all my savings.
Father of my child, dont support and did not see child few years.
My kid is British citizen, and my ex husband too.
My questions is:
1. What will happened next with my pre-settled apllication and how long its takes to receive decision. ( i called to resolution centre and them told me, that its with case worker, if thrm will need any thing, i will be contacted).
2. How its possible for me to have right to work, before i will have decision?
I will be tyankful for any advice from you.
Regards

[Billyosa]

Please dear beloved members have another question
Can I take a job offer with a COA ?it’s the long one I received in November last year I got an interview coming up on Friday but I don’t have an ID just the COA

Yes go for it . It has been stated on it so most employers accept it.

[Billyosa]

Good evening all.
I applied for pre-settled status as primary carer of British child, who is 17 now. For next cople years will be a student.
My biometrics done 26.11
COA i received dated 13.01, after i called and asked, its was sent to me.
I have current visitors visa till March 2020,i could not apply to bring my kid here under other types of visa, i could not apply stay with child under British law.
So this was only solutions.
Its very important for me to have right to work, becouse i nearly spend all my savings.
Father of my child, dont support and did not see child few years.
My kid is British citizen, and my ex husband too.
My questions is:
1. What will happened next with my pre-settled apllication and how long its takes to receive decision. ( i called to resolution centre and them told me, that its with case worker, if thrm will need any thing, i will be contacted).
2. How its possible for me to have right to work, before i will have decision?
I will be tyankful for any advice from you.
Regards

Hi Toledos,
Sorry for what you are going through. Please use the COA to search for job, after you receive your pre-settled status you can bring your child here with you.
Brexit has been good to us and your blessings will come soon.. All the best

[Billyosa]

Please @Zambrano_ombudsman I have stated that this thread is not for legal argument, otherwise it will degenerate into something that was not intended.

Timelines, decisions, prior to receipt of application and thereafter. Outcome of application and reason for refusal.

Please try and restrain yourself.

You are providing incorrect information. You single me out because I challenged you.

The truth should not be restrained. It should be shared, so that people can be empowered.

Oh, not agaaaaiiiiiiinnnnnnnn..........

Say that again he never give up..

[Zambrano_ombudsman]

Please @Zambrano_ombudsman I have stated that this thread is not for legal argument, otherwise it will degenerate into something that was not intended.

Timelines, decisions, prior to receipt of application and thereafter. Outcome of application and reason for refusal.

Please try and restrain yourself.

You are providing incorrect information. You single me out because I challenged you.

The truth should not be restrained. It should be shared, so that people can be empowered.

Oh, not agaaaaiiiiiiinnnnnnnn..........

Say that again he never give up..

There are people on here who are being made homeless - but Billyosa and LULUBABY are concerned with me pointing out inconsistencies.

[LULUBABY]

You are providing incorrect information. You single me out because I challenged you.

The truth should not be restrained. It should be shared, so that people can be empowered.

Oh, not agaaaaiiiiiiinnnnnnnn..........

Say that again he never give up..

There are people on here who are being made homeless - but Billyosa and LULUBABY are concerned with me pointing out inconsistencies.

Please yourself....go on...., rant on..... I will definitely not dignify with any further replies.

[snooky]

Please dear beloved members have another question
Can I take a job offer with a COA ?it’s the long one I received in November last year I got an interview coming up on Friday but I don’t have an ID just the COA

Morning

The long COA authorises and affirms your right to work whilst waiting for your EEA decision under regulation 2016 amended. (2006 regulations)

You have to always tell most Employers to do Right To Work Checks.

So go for it

[Prettymum]

Hi Snooky,

I don't understand is COA for eu settlement scheme different from EEA COA?

Can I work with COA for eu settlement scheme or not.

Please can you clarify...Many thanks

[Loloebele]

Please dear beloved members have another question
Can I take a job offer with a COA ?it’s the long one I received in November last year I got an interview coming up on Friday but I don’t have an ID just the COA

Morning

The long COA authorises and affirms your right to work whilst waiting for your EEA decision under regulation 2016 amended. (2006 regulations)

You have to always tell most Employers to do Right To Work Checks.

So go for it

Hi Snooky
Apparently my COA has been with my solicitor since end of November. I wasn’t sure if I could work with it. But with this information, I’ll try. Thank you and good luck Hope16

[snooky]

Good evening all.
I applied for pre-settled status as primary carer of British child, who is 17 now. For next cople years will be a student.
My biometrics done 26.11
COA i received dated 13.01, after i called and asked, its was sent to me.
I have current visitors visa till March 2020,i could not apply to bring my kid here under other types of visa, i could not apply stay with child under British law.
So this was only solutions.
Its very important for me to have right to work, becouse i nearly spend all my savings.
Father of my child, dont support and did not see child few years.
My kid is British citizen, and my ex husband too.
My questions is:
1. What will happened next with my pre-settled apllication and how long its takes to receive decision. ( i called to resolution centre and them told me, that its with case worker, if thrm will need any thing, i will be contacted).
2. How its possible for me to have right to work, before i will have decision?
I will be tyankful for any advice from you.
Regards

Toledos

The problem of Zambrano principles under eu wider laws or eea case law derive right is that, there is something called Limitation or End of Right under regulations 16(6)

You may be disappointed as your child is already 17 or 17 and above, Home is going issue to you the only REMAINING RIGHT that the got under EEA regulations to be a minor Union member.

Meaning if your child 17 years and 6 months, Home Office will only issue 6 month residence card.

If by the time the also make a decision and your child is 18 years then your application would be refused. This is be your child can not help you to derive benefits under regulations 16(6)

In EU Derive law under Zambrano , derivative stops when your child turns 18 years.

Theres a proper way to go about this Toledos.

1. To seek entry clearance under domestic immigration UK law as a parent of a british child who is still under 18 years.

2. Under outside immigration rules

3. Under human rights rule


With these applications when your child turns 18 years and still not decided, Home Office will still accord you that benefit of applying before your child became 18. This is enshrined in british immigration law.

Again pre settle status can never be used for family unification or to bring others to the UK

Those with EEA EU rights and have got pre settled status would be able to rely on their old right under freedom of movement and benefits within this implementation period.

That is why I always say to people to also do application under EEA REGULATIONS especially those other derivative residence applications not Zambrano derivative because your rights are still under eea regulations.

Settlement Scheme is a British promise and not EU law and has so many broken bridges.

Hope this will help you make a proper decision

[snooky]

Please dear beloved members have another question
Can I take a job offer with a COA ?it’s the long one I received in November last year I got an interview coming up on Friday but I don’t have an ID just the COA

Morning

The long COA authorises and affirms your right to work whilst waiting for your EEA decision under regulation 2016 amended. (2006 regulations)

You have to always tell most Employers to do Right To Work Checks.

So go for it

Hi Snooky
Apparently my COA has been with my solicitor since end of November. I wasn’t sure if I could work with it. But with this information, I’ll try. Thank you and good luck Hope16

You’re welcome
Bless

[CR001]

Good evening all.
I applied for pre-settled status as primary carer of British child, who is 17 now. For next cople years will be a student.
My biometrics done 26.11
COA i received dated 13.01, after i called and asked, its was sent to me.
I have current visitors visa till March 2020,i could not apply to bring my kid here under other types of visa, i could not apply stay with child under British law.
So this was only solutions.
Its very important for me to have right to work, becouse i nearly spend all my savings.
Father of my child, dont support and did not see child few years.
My kid is British citizen, and my ex husband too.
My questions is:
1. What will happened next with my pre-settled apllication and how long its takes to receive decision. ( i called to resolution centre and them told me, that its with case worker, if thrm will need any thing, i will be contacted).
2. How its possible for me to have right to work, before i will have decision?
I will be tyankful for any advice from you.
Regards

Toledos

The problem of Zambrano principles under eu wider laws or eea case law derive right is that, there is something called Limitation or End of Right under regulations 16(6)

You may be disappointed as your child is already 17 or 17 and above, Home is going issue to you the only REMAINING RIGHT that the got under EEA regulations to be a minor Union member.

Meaning if your child 17 years and 6 months, Home Office will only issue 6 month residence card.

If by the time the also make a decision and your child is 18 years then your application would be refused. This is be your child can not help you to derive benefits under regulations 16(6)

In EU Derive law under Zambrano , derivative stops when your child turns 18 years.

Theres a proper way to go about this Toledos.

1. To seek entry clearance under domestic immigration UK law as a parent of a british child who is still under 18 years.

2. Under outside immigration rules

3. Under human rights rule


With these applications when your child turns 18 years and still not decided, Home Office will still accord you that benefit of applying before your child became 18. This is enshrined in british immigration law.

Again pre settle status can never be used for family unification or to bring others to the UK

Those with EEA EU rights and have got pre settled status would be able to rely on their old right under freedom of movement and benefits within this implementation period.

That is why I always say to people to also do application under EEA REGULATIONS especially those other derivative residence applications not Zambrano derivative because your rights are still under eea regulations.

Settlement Scheme is a British promise and not EU law and has so many broken bridges.

Hope this will help you make a proper decision

@ snooky, the user was already advised of all this already and chose to ignore the advice, see link below. User is in the UK with a 6 month visitor visa since September 2019.

eea-route-applications/eu-settlement-pr ... l#p1809159

[snooky]

Hi Snooky,

I don't understand is COA for eu settlement scheme different from EEA COA?

Can I work with COA for eu settlement scheme or not.

Please can you clarify...Many thanks

Hello

Technically they are not the same because under the EU Settlement Scheme COA (Note to Employer states this)

Currently, EEA AND SWISS CITIZENS can demonstrate their right to work with their valid EEA or Swiss passport or national identity card. Non-EEA family members of EEA and Swiss citizens, or a person with DERIVATIVE right of residence can demonstrate their right to work in the UK with a valid biomatric residence documents for as long as they continue to have those rights under EU law

It further states that with all cases there should be a right to work check

COA under settlement scheme does not have the same six months period with COA under eea

Home Office is the only Judge to say if one has right to work under settlement scheme's COA

That is I always say to people to ask Employers to do Right To Work Checks

[Chris90]

Good day everyone,
Recently I have been ringing the resolution centre everyday for a number of days, this I what I learned.

- they a very understaffed and is overwhelmed with the number of applications coming in.
- they prioritise the eu citizens online application as they believe this will keep the delay numbers down as our paper application just requires soooo much more manual work.
- even though they try to reassure me, they are not necessarily working on paper applications constantly it more like part time work every now and then because they believe they have up to 6 months to get it done
- if you call up and ask how to make a formal complaint they will almost always put you to a manager and that manager will use defusing tactics to calm and reassure its all OK, its normal.
- I asked them to show me online the policy that say up to 6 months for my paper application and the agent got irate. , it obviously doesn't exist and trying to get me to accept 6 months wait as normal because it once was the standard. The settlement scheme if completely different from all previous processes.
- I get a sense they really don't want it getting out that there's people out here waiting several months.
- they informed me they are trying to get more resources
- they will apologise for delay but that's just about it until you start making noise.
- the caseworkers are waiting for guidance to come down for certain applications.

This just my observation from my experience, still hanging on. Let see what they do

Best wishes.

[snooky]

Good evening all.
I applied for pre-settled status as primary carer of British child, who is 17 now. For next cople years will be a student.
My biometrics done 26.11
COA i received dated 13.01, after i called and asked, its was sent to me.
I have current visitors visa till March 2020,i could not apply to bring my kid here under other types of visa, i could not apply stay with child under British law.
So this was only solutions.
Its very important for me to have right to work, becouse i nearly spend all my savings.
Father of my child, dont support and did not see child few years.
My kid is British citizen, and my ex husband too.
My questions is:
1. What will happened next with my pre-settled apllication and how long its takes to receive decision. ( i called to resolution centre and them told me, that its with case worker, if thrm will need any thing, i will be contacted).
2. How its possible for me to have right to work, before i will have decision?
I will be tyankful for any advice from you.
Regards

Toledos

The problem of Zambrano principles under eu wider laws or eea case law derive right is that, there is something called Limitation or End of Right under regulations 16(6)

You may be disappointed as your child is already 17 or 17 and above, Home is going issue to you the only REMAINING RIGHT that the got under EEA regulations to be a minor Union member.

Meaning if your child 17 years and 6 months, Home Office will only issue 6 month residence card.

If by the time the also make a decision and your child is 18 years then your application would be refused. This is be your child can not help you to derive benefits under regulations 16(6)

In EU Derive law under Zambrano , derivative stops when your child turns 18 years.

Theres a proper way to go about this Toledos.

1. To seek entry clearance under domestic immigration UK law as a parent of a british child who is still under 18 years.

2. Under outside immigration rules

3. Under human rights rule


With these applications when your child turns 18 years and still not decided, Home Office will still accord you that benefit of applying before your child became 18. This is enshrined in british immigration law.

Again pre settle status can never be used for family unification or to bring others to the UK

Those with EEA EU rights and have got pre settled status would be able to rely on their old right under freedom of movement and benefits within this implementation period.

That is why I always say to people to also do application under EEA REGULATIONS especially those other derivative residence applications not Zambrano derivative because your rights are still under eea regulations.

Settlement Scheme is a British promise and not EU law and has so many broken bridges.

Hope this will help you make a proper decision

@ snooky, the user was already advised of all this already and chose to ignore the advice, see link below. User is in the UK with a 6 month visitor visa since September 2019.

eea-route-applications/eu-settlement-pr ... l#p1809159

Thank you very much for doing this monitoring. It really make this platform one of the best

Kudos CR001

[snooky]

Hi Snooky,

I don't understand is COA for eu settlement scheme different from EEA COA?

Can I work with COA for eu settlement scheme or not.

Please can you clarify...Many thanks

Hi Snooky,

I don't understand is COA for eu settlement scheme different from EEA COA?

Can I work with COA for eu settlement scheme or not.

Please can you clarify...Many thanks

Prettymum

Just ask the Employer to do a Right To Work Checks. That’s the only way. No will able to confirm that as COA under settlement scheme is not the same as COA under EEA REGULATIONS.

That is why Home Office has created a right to work Department to oversee all these problems

But yes you can work

Home Office is allowing all people under settlement scheme to work with exception of few