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URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by mpking » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:55 pm

marcnath wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:52 pm
Google for immigration health surcharge, pay the surcharge and you will be given a number that you enter in there.
i have the NHS number. do i need to pay that after living in the country for 9 years ? really :shock: ?

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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by marcnath » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:58 pm

mpking wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:55 pm
marcnath wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:52 pm
Google for immigration health surcharge, pay the surcharge and you will be given a number that you enter in there.
i have the NHS number. do i need to pay that after living in the country for 9 years ? really :shock: ?
Well, after 9 years, you have not been keeping yourself up to date on local happenings.
One more year to go and once you get your ILR, you would not need to. But for now, the answer is yes
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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by mpking » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:59 pm

marcnath wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:58 pm
mpking wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:55 pm
marcnath wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:52 pm
Google for immigration health surcharge, pay the surcharge and you will be given a number that you enter in there.
i have the NHS number. do i need to pay that after living in the country for 9 years ? really :shock: ?
Well, after 9 years, you have not been keeping yourself up to date on local happenings.
One more year to go and once you get your ILR, you would not need to. But for now, the answer is yes
thankyou sir and with that if u can tell me how long do i need to pay it for ? i mean 1 year or more ?

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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by marcnath » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:04 pm

I have not had to do this myself but once you fill in the form online, it will give you the details and the amount to be paid. I understand it is for three years, but you will be get a refund once your extension is approved for any period beyond the extension granted.
I have no idea whether you will get a further refund if you get your ILR next year - I suspect you may be able to ask for it.
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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by mpking » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:25 pm

marcnath wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:04 pm
I have not had to do this myself but once you fill in the form online, it will give you the details and the amount to be paid. I understand it is for three years, but you will be get a refund once your extension is approved for any period beyond the extension granted.
I have no idea whether you will get a further refund if you get your ILR next year - I suspect you may be able to ask for it.
Boss its asking me to pay £600 for IHS !!!! are they for real ??
Application fee for £1228 + dependent fee £1228 . they are already ripping applicants off !!!

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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by mpking » Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:52 pm

Marcnath so do i have to pay this 600 gbp ?

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Post by mpking » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:04 pm

and to all gurus please wanna ask you something very important ..
i am having my wife as dependent and she joined me a year ago and that time before coming from India we paid her IHS, is the same ihs reference number gonna work or do we need to pay it all over again ?
quick response will be much appreciated !!!

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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by zimba » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:46 am

IHS needs to be paid again
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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by mpking » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:12 am

thanks all experienced ppl for their quick replies.
few questios related TIER1 dependent that is my wife .
ques 1 - fee for tier 1 dependent is £ 1228 as well ?
ques 2 - in section F of dependent form it says : HAVE u ever had a HO reference number assigned to you ?

as its been a year she joined me so i was confused as obviously in her last application HO would have assigned her a reference number !! so if yes where can i find it or owise shall i mark NO ?

these 2 quesries are the main related to dependents , so if u can answer asap.
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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by mpking » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:09 am

please can anyone help me ..
Zimba88 , CR001, Marcnath ??

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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by marcnath » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:24 am

mpking wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:12 am
thanks all experienced ppl for their quick replies.
few questios related TIER1 dependent that is my wife .
ques 1 - fee for tier 1 dependent is £ 1228 as well ?
I don't know offhand but it is normally there very predominantly in the form itself.
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Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:12 am

ques 2 - in section F of dependent form it says : HAVE u ever had a HO reference number assigned to you ?

as its been a year she joined me so i was confused as obviously in her last application HO would have assigned her a reference number !! so if yes where can i find it or owise shall i mark NO ?
It would have been any of the official communication you received - acknowledgement of application, biometric, approval letter, etc. But if you don't have it just fill in Not available or something - this is not a critical one
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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by mpking » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:43 am

marcnath wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:24 am
mpking wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:12 am
thanks all experienced ppl for their quick replies.
few questios related TIER1 dependent that is my wife .
ques 1 - fee for tier 1 dependent is £ 1228 as well ?
I don't know offhand but it is normally there very predominantly in the form itself.
mpking wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:12 am

ques 2 - in section F of dependent form it says : HAVE u ever had a HO reference number assigned to you ?

as its been a year she joined me so i was confused as obviously in her last application HO would have assigned her a reference number !! so if yes where can i find it or owise shall i mark NO ?
It would have been any of the official communication you received - acknowledgement of application, biometric, approval letter, etc. But if you don't have it just fill in Not available or something - this is not a critical one
ok thanks alot Marcnath.

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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by mpking » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:27 pm

to all the gurus now is the main thing . almost ready for submission .

final list of documents to submit ::

1. my pp + brp + IHS paid receipt + Marriage certificate.
2. my dependent pp + brp + Air ticket + IHS paid receipt.
3. duly filled full application form
4. duly filled full application form for dependent.
5. ENGLISH LANGUAGE - 10 POINTS - my original MBA drgree .
6. MAINTENANCE FUNDS - 10 POINTS - bank statement with bank seal.
7. REGISTERED AS SELF EMPLOYED - 20 points - HMRC welcome letter + Tax returns for 3 years.
8. ENGAGED IN BUSINESS ACTIVITY - 15 POINTS - accountant letter stating running accounts + 50k invested
+ tax returns for 3 years .
- letter from bank confirming I am the signatory of the
account and account is used for Business purpose.
- Professional Indemnity Insurance for 3 years .
- Business cards.
9. CREATED 2 FULL TIME JOBS - 20 POINTS - evidence of settled workers i.e - passports + brp color copies
attested by me.
- p45 for employees who have already left.
- p46 for employees who are currently working.
- upto date wage slips of all the employees ( start - till date )
- accountant letter saying about 2 full time jobs with their
names and hours clearly stated .
NOT SURE ABOUT THIS - p11 + p32 for employees . ( will confirm again from CA )

!!! 1 Important question , my accountant flew away so i changed to another accountant and RTI has not been done. is it okk if i dont have RTI submissions for this ? and IN form Section N it says WHAT DATE DID YOU BEGIN SUBMITTING REAL TIME INFORMATION TO HMRC ? what shall i fill in this date column ??

humble request to all experienced ppl + gurus to give their individual views and if anything more needed please let me know. i want it to be perfect with all your advices and suggestions.
waiting for the feedback from maximum ppl out of their busy schedule. many thanks

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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by mpking » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:39 pm

anyone help please . waiting for your valuable feedback !!!1
Zimba88, Marcnath, CR001..

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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by marcnath » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:03 pm

Are you self employed ?
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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by mpking » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:04 pm

yes Marcnath ..

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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by marcnath » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:11 pm

mpking wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:27 pm
to all the gurus now is the main thing . almost ready for submission .

final list of documents to submit ::

1. my pp + brp + IHS paid receipt + Marriage certificate. - Marriage cert optional
2. my dependent pp + brp + Air ticket + IHS paid receipt. - air ticket optional
3. duly filled full application form
4. duly filled full application form for dependent.
5. ENGLISH LANGUAGE - 10 POINTS - my original MBA drgree . - optional
6. MAINTENANCE FUNDS - 10 POINTS - bank statement with bank seal.
7. REGISTERED AS SELF EMPLOYED - 20 points - HMRC welcome letter + Tax returns for 3 years. - Tax returns optional
8. ENGAGED IN BUSINESS ACTIVITY - 15 POINTS - accountant letter stating running accounts + 50k invested
+ tax returns for 3 years .
- letter from bank confirming I am the signatory of the
account and account is used for Business purpose.
- Professional Indemnity Insurance for 3 years .
- Business cards.
- None of these meet the requirement
9. CREATED 2 FULL TIME JOBS - 20 POINTS - evidence of settled workers i.e - passports + brp color copies
attested by me. - attestation optional
- p45 for employees who have already left. - optional
- p46 for employees who are currently working. - optional
- upto date wage slips of all the employees ( start - till date )
- accountant letter saying about 2 full time jobs with their
names and hours clearly stated . - optional
NOT SURE ABOUT THIS - p11 + p32 for employees . ( will confirm again from CA ) - optional

!!! 1 Important question , my accountant flew away so i changed to another accountant and RTI has not been done. is it okk if i dont have RTI submissions for this ? and IN form Section N it says WHAT DATE DID YOU BEGIN SUBMITTING REAL TIME INFORMATION TO HMRC ? what shall i fill in this date column ??
- RTI is mandatory. Without that you can be ensured of a rejection
humble request to all experienced ppl + gurus to give their individual views and if anything more needed please let me know. i want it to be perfect with all your advices and suggestions.
waiting for the feedback from maximum ppl out of their busy schedule. many thanks
- what is your investment evidence ?
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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by marcnath » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:16 pm

The requirement for current business engagement is clear
If you are self-employed when you apply, you must provide documentation to demonstrate that you are registered as self-employed with HM Revenue & Customs.
Your latest tax return should satisfy that if it was issued within the last three months and it states you are self-employed.

As mentioned, investment evidence is missing.

FPS is absolutely needed - other users seem to have used a software called Moneysoft to recreate the FPS.Talk to your new accountant.
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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by mpking » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:20 pm

marcnath wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:11 pm
mpking wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:27 pm
to all the gurus now is the main thing . almost ready for submission .

final list of documents to submit ::

1. my pp + brp + IHS paid receipt + Marriage certificate. - Marriage cert optional
2. my dependent pp + brp + Air ticket + IHS paid receipt. - air ticket optional
3. duly filled full application form
4. duly filled full application form for dependent.
5. ENGLISH LANGUAGE - 10 POINTS - my original MBA drgree . - optional
6. MAINTENANCE FUNDS - 10 POINTS - bank statement with bank seal.
7. REGISTERED AS SELF EMPLOYED - 20 points - HMRC welcome letter + Tax returns for 3 years. - Tax returns optional
8. ENGAGED IN BUSINESS ACTIVITY - 15 POINTS - accountant letter stating running accounts + 50k invested
+ tax returns for 3 years .
- letter from bank confirming I am the signatory of the
account and account is used for Business purpose.
- Professional Indemnity Insurance for 3 years .
- Business cards.
- None of these meet the requirement
9. CREATED 2 FULL TIME JOBS - 20 POINTS - evidence of settled workers i.e - passports + brp color copies
attested by me. - attestation optional
- p45 for employees who have already left. - optional
- p46 for employees who are currently working. - optional
- upto date wage slips of all the employees ( start - till date )
- accountant letter saying about 2 full time jobs with their
names and hours clearly stated . - optional
NOT SURE ABOUT THIS - p11 + p32 for employees . ( will confirm again from CA ) - optional

!!! 1 Important question , my accountant flew away so i changed to another accountant and RTI has not been done. is it okk if i dont have RTI submissions for this ? and IN form Section N it says WHAT DATE DID YOU BEGIN SUBMITTING REAL TIME INFORMATION TO HMRC ? what shall i fill in this date column ??
- RTI is mandatory. Without that you can be ensured of a rejection
humble request to all experienced ppl + gurus to give their individual views and if anything more needed please let me know. i want it to be perfect with all your advices and suggestions.
waiting for the feedback from maximum ppl out of their busy schedule. many thanks
- what is your investment evidence ?
investment evidence is entry in Tax returns by the accountant in 2 instalments 30k in 1st year and 20k in 3rd year . and ENGAGED IN BUSINESS - u said does not meet the requirement , then what shall i put in for that as the best to show engagement ? and RTI is sorted , i was mixing it with something else but just had a word with accountant and he alredy had signed up RTI fully.
and 1 question - Business Bank statements are not mandatory ennit ?

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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by mpking » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:25 pm

marcnath wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:16 pm
The requirement for current business engagement is clear
If you are self-employed when you apply, you must provide documentation to demonstrate that you are registered as self-employed with HM Revenue & Customs.
Your latest tax return should satisfy that if it was issued within the last three months and it states you are self-employed.

As mentioned, investment evidence is missing.

FPS is absolutely needed - other users seem to have used a software called Moneysoft to recreate the FPS.Talk to your new accountant.
i am submitting tax return of 13-14, 14-15 and 15-16.
latest one has not been submitted yet, is that ok or shall i submit it asap and send it alongwith file which will then become an evidence of my self employment ?

and what is FPS ?
and what could be the investment evidence according to you in my case, other than an entry in audit accounts by the accountant clearly stating that this much investment has been made !! ??

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Post by marcnath » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:36 pm

The requirements for investment are:
1) Unaudited accounts and an accountant’s certificate of confirmation
2) Business Premises in UK
3) UK Bank Account
4) UK Taxation

These are much easier to define in case of a limited company, but the requirements are still the same for self-employed. More details on each of these are in the guidance, but it is really the first one that is missing from your document list. The others should be ok.

You need something from HMRC within the last three months that shows you are self-employed still. Filing the latest return is one way of getting that, but if you have got a letter from HMRC asking you to submit your returns, that would work too.

FPS is the name of the RTI submission documents. You need to submit those
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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by mpking » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:12 pm

marcnath wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:36 pm
The requirements for investment are:
1) Unaudited accounts and an accountant’s certificate of confirmation
2) Business Premises in UK
3) UK Bank Account
4) UK Taxation

These are much easier to define in case of a limited company, but the requirements are still the same for self-employed. More details on each of these are in the guidance, but it is really the first one that is missing from your document list. The others should be ok.

You need something from HMRC within the last three months that shows you are self-employed still. Filing the latest return is one way of getting that, but if you have got a letter from HMRC asking you to submit your returns, that would work too.

FPS is the name of the RTI submission documents. You need to submit those
- boss in regards to Business premises : what document can i prove to demonstrate that ?
- and By UK bank account u mean - Business bank statement or letter from bank confirming its a business account and i am the authorised signatory is ENOUGH ?
- and by UK taxation , obviously TAX Returns for 3 years are enough ennit ?
- and sorry but what do you mean by Uuaudited accounts ? and are they different from Tax Returns ?
request - please reply soon as i have limited time. many thanks in advance ..

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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by marcnath » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:58 pm

mpking wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:12 pm


- boss in regards to Business premises : what document can i prove to demonstrate that ?
The guideline specifies that - If you are self-employed, evidence of your registration with HM Revenue and Customs to show that the business is based in the UK,
So, you have that.
mpking wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:12 pm
- and By UK bank account u mean - Business bank statement or letter from bank confirming its a business account and i am the authorised signatory is ENOUGH ?
Bank statement is sufficient
mpking wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:12 pm

- and by UK taxation , obviously TAX Returns for 3 years are enough ennit ?

Yes, that is sufficient
mpking wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:12 pm


- and sorry but what do you mean by Uuaudited accounts ? and are they different from Tax Returns ?
request - please reply soon as i have limited time. many thanks in advance ..
I am not absolutely sure about this, but I think Tax returns are not sufficient. And anyway you need a compilation report from your accountant. Not sure if the accountant provides that for your tax return.

Ask your accountant - they should be able to generate an accounts for your self-employed business
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Re: URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR ENTREPRENEUR EXTENSION APPLICATION.

Post by mpking » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:16 pm

marcnath wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:58 pm
mpking wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:12 pm


- boss in regards to Business premises : what document can i prove to demonstrate that ?
The guideline specifies that - If you are self-employed, evidence of your registration with HM Revenue and Customs to show that the business is based in the UK,
So, you have that.
mpking wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:12 pm
- and By UK bank account u mean - Business bank statement or letter from bank confirming its a business account and i am the authorised signatory is ENOUGH ?
Bank statement is sufficient
mpking wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:12 pm

- and by UK taxation , obviously TAX Returns for 3 years are enough ennit ?

Yes, that is sufficient
mpking wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:12 pm


- and sorry but what do you mean by Uuaudited accounts ? and are they different from Tax Returns ?
request - please reply soon as i have limited time. many thanks in advance ..
I am not absolutely sure about this, but I think Tax returns are not sufficient. And anyway you need a compilation report from your accountant. Not sure if the accountant provides that for your tax return.

Ask your accountant - they should be able to generate an accounts for your self-employed business
ok i ll talk to my accountant about the compilation report and ll get it for sure ..
and about UK Banking : tell me some alternative for bank statement as i don't want to provide that. what else other than business bank statement can I give to cover this clause ??

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Post by marcnath » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:26 pm

There are alternatives to the business statements set out in the guidelines. I don't have it in front of me but it was a letter from the bank if I remember right.
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