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July 2018 restricted COS

Only for the UK Skilled Worker visas, formerly known as Tier 2 visa route

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by CR001 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:58 pm

hpr0716 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:57 pm
Would it be possible to drop down to 30 pts next month? Really anxious here as my current visa expires at the beginning of Sep....
What exactly is your 'current visa'??
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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by hpr0716 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:00 pm

CR001 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:58 pm
hpr0716 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:57 pm
Would it be possible to drop down to 30 pts next month? Really anxious here as my current visa expires at the beginning of Sep....
What exactly is your 'current visa'??
I have tier 5 visa now, have 30pts just applied this month and got refusal today... non sol, non phd, non nhs

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by AshleyEB40 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:03 pm

thisB wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:15 pm
shide44 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:08 pm
batman1909 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:10 pm
Refused at 40 due to not meeting minimum cut-off points for the month.
Oh that is crap! I guess that is me also even though i havent received a from my lawyers yet. I know HR will try to claim that we are far off but i would be able to convince my employer to apply in August if there is a big chance it will reach 40. It came down alot this month which was helpful but this is probably the end for me. I have 22 days before my tier 5 expires and I have to make the decision to leave or try again in August but need to move out and head home.
I really think it'd be crazy for them not to try again. But just a heads up this life of limbo thing is not fun, so you may want to think about what's best for your future.
From what I have heard it is costing the company nothing at the moment by using a private immigration firm.

One note about limbo, Limbo is hard and frustrating and saddening, but only you know where the right place is for you.
I received another offer in another state which I did want to go to and it would not take any paperwork except a transfer paper and I had all of my friends saying just go there this is taking too much time. But I know it was not for me and here I am still and will be next month because I too have 40.

Hang in if it is what you want!

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by CR001 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:04 pm

hpr0716 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:00 pm
CR001 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:58 pm
hpr0716 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:57 pm
Would it be possible to drop down to 30 pts next month? Really anxious here as my current visa expires at the beginning of Sep....
What exactly is your 'current visa'??
I have tier 5 visa now, have 30pts just applied this month and got refusal today... non sol, non phd, non nhs
Why is your visa expiring an issue?? You cant switch in country anyway. If your sponsor still wishes to employ you, nothing stops them from doing so if they can get RCoS approval.
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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by Shubadhra » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:09 pm

Hi All,
Just an update !

Mine got rejected today. I was at 34 points , non-sol, non-nhs.

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by boyapap » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:11 pm

55 points, non sol, non nhs, non PhD

Employer submitted additional documents, application is still under review

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by Sachu » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:16 pm

Shubadhra wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:09 pm
Hi All,
Just an update !

Mine got rejected today. I was at 34 points , non-sol, non-nhs.
I hope you will get a good news next month.

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by jalison » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:25 pm

boyapap wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:11 pm
55 points, non sol, non nhs, non PhD

Employer submitted additional documents, application is still under review

Same situation here. I am under SOL and company had to provide additional docs on 10th. Still under review...

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by CR001 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:28 pm

@ user 'shide44' kindly desist form just posting quoted text if you have no comments to make.
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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by CoSJourney » Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:38 pm

shide44 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:08 pm
batman1909 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:10 pm
Refused at 40 due to not meeting minimum cut-off points for the month.
Oh that is crap! I guess that is me also even though i havent received a from my lawyers yet. I know HR will try to claim that we are far off but i would be able to convince my employer to apply in August if there is a big chance it will reach 40. It came down alot this month which was helpful but this is probably the end for me. I have 22 days before my tier 5 expires and I have to make the decision to leave or try again in August but need to move out and head home.
You still need to apply from your home country if you get the CoS. You cannot transfer from tier 5 (youth mobility) to tier 2 in-country. So you need to go home regardless.

Hope that helps :)

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by roophysio » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:06 pm

I was going to say the same thing.

For those people mentioning when their Tier 5 visa is due to expire - this has no bearing on applying for a RCoS and if successful, a visa.

You can’t change from a Tier 5 to Tier 2 without leaving the UK first.

Your potential employer can apply for a RCoS wherever you are in the world, including the UK, but you have to apply for your actual visa back home.

It’s a shame we didn’t manage to get to 40 points, would have cleared a fair chunk for those waiting next month in the 30s.

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by thisB » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:29 pm

Does anyone have the breakdown of rCOS by points for the last few months? I thought someone posted here but I can't find. Would be good to know how many people are waiting 21 - 40ish.

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by thisB » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:37 pm

thisB wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:29 pm
Does anyone have the breakdown of rCOS by points for the last few months? I thought someone posted here but I can't find. Would be good to know how many people are waiting 21 - 40ish.
Found it
May: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... bandings_2
June: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... f_sponso_4

There were 1114 Applications from 21 - 41 in June and 1314 in May. I don't know how many NHS Doctors are in the 21 - 41 bands, so could be less counted this month and August. So, I would assume, barring a huge upswing in the number of applications, all applications for August should go through? August has 2000 available, plus any returned. Minus any borrowed from this month.

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by UKENG » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:49 pm

AshleyEB40 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:03 pm
thisB wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:15 pm
shide44 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:08 pm
batman1909 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:10 pm
Refused at 40 due to not meeting minimum cut-off points for the month.
Oh that is crap! I guess that is me also even though i havent received a from my lawyers yet. I know HR will try to claim that we are far off but i would be able to convince my employer to apply in August if there is a big chance it will reach 40. It came down alot this month which was helpful but this is probably the end for me. I have 22 days before my tier 5 expires and I have to make the decision to leave or try again in August but need to move out and head home.
I really think it'd be crazy for them not to try again. But just a heads up this life of limbo thing is not fun, so you may want to think about what's best for your future.
From what I have heard it is costing the company nothing at the moment by using a private immigration firm.

One note about limbo, Limbo is hard and frustrating and saddening, but only you know where the right place is for you.

I received another offer in another state which I did want to go to and it would not take any paperwork except a transfer paper and I had all of my friends saying just go there this is taking too much time. But I know it was not for me and here I am still and will be next month because I too have 40.

Hang in if it is what you want!
I completely agree with this. Do follow what works best for you even if that is waiting some time to get the CoS. And try to keep up hope and assurance that it will come through and live your life accordingly. This month has been extremely positive going from £60k min last month to £41k. There were over 1,200 applicants last month in that range alone! The minimum salary will continue to drop significantly based on this month's figures.

I left UK after current visa(Tier 2 ICT Dependent) expired in May and applying for CoS since Feb this year.I was able to get the CoS this month after the change in rules. I would like to say it was easy to stay confident it would come through, but I wasn't able to and it has been an emotional roller coaster I would have not liked to go on. I got my friends and family at home used to me being back and now we are having to deal with their grief and loss moving back to UK.

I am not an overly optimistic person, but the best you can do is draw a line to when you will no longer keep applying and then do what you can to achieve your goal. Don't start making any plan Bs or Cs until you get to that date.

Also, people confusing leaving the UK for a 3 week period to apply out of country is not the same as permanently moving from the UK with no guarantee (e.g. a CoS) that they will be returning to the country. The applicant knows they need to apply out of country for a very short period of time.

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by amanlamba1 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:16 pm

Guys see this....
https://www.ft.com/content/914b10e2-901 ... 80cedcc421

Seems 41,000 is lower limit this month.

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by UKENG » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:24 pm

CR001 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:04 pm
hpr0716 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:00 pm
CR001 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:58 pm
hpr0716 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:57 pm
Would it be possible to drop down to 30 pts next month? Really anxious here as my current visa expires at the beginning of Sep....
What exactly is your 'current visa'??
I have tier 5 visa now, have 30pts just applied this month and got refusal today... non sol, non phd, non nhs
Why is your visa expiring an issue?? You cant switch in country anyway. If your sponsor still wishes to employ you, nothing stops them from doing so if they can get RCoS approval.
I think that is the issue. S/he is on 30 points, in which all applicants at that point scale has been granted a COS since last November. S/he will not be able to live and work in the UK after Sept if they are not able to obtain a CoS.

The issue not with where people apply but ability to work and live in the UK.

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by CoSJourney » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:54 pm

UKENG wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:49 pm
AshleyEB40 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:03 pm
thisB wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:15 pm
shide44 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:08 pm


Oh that is crap! I guess that is me also even though i havent received a from my lawyers yet. I know HR will try to claim that we are far off but i would be able to convince my employer to apply in August if there is a big chance it will reach 40. It came down alot this month which was helpful but this is probably the end for me. I have 22 days before my tier 5 expires and I have to make the decision to leave or try again in August but need to move out and head home.
I really think it'd be crazy for them not to try again. But just a heads up this life of limbo thing is not fun, so you may want to think about what's best for your future.
From what I have heard it is costing the company nothing at the moment by using a private immigration firm.

One note about limbo, Limbo is hard and frustrating and saddening, but only you know where the right place is for you.

I received another offer in another state which I did want to go to and it would not take any paperwork except a transfer paper and I had all of my friends saying just go there this is taking too much time. But I know it was not for me and here I am still and will be next month because I too have 40.

Hang in if it is what you want!
I completely agree with this. Do follow what works best for you even if that is waiting some time to get the CoS. And try to keep up hope and assurance that it will come through and live your life accordingly. This month has been extremely positive going from £60k min last month to £41k. There were over 1,200 applicants last month in that range alone! The minimum salary will continue to drop significantly based on this month's figures.

I left UK after current visa(Tier 2 ICT Dependent) expired in May and applying for CoS since Feb this year.I was able to get the CoS this month after the change in rules. I would like to say it was easy to stay confident it would come through, but I wasn't able to and it has been an emotional roller coaster I would have not liked to go on. I got my friends and family at home used to me being back and now we are having to deal with their grief and loss moving back to UK.

I am not an overly optimistic person, but the best you can do is draw a line to when you will no longer keep applying and then do what you can to achieve your goal. Don't start making any plan Bs or Cs until you get to that date.

Also, people confusing leaving the UK for a 3 week period to apply out of country is not the same as permanently moving from the UK with no guarantee (e.g. a CoS) that they will be returning to the country. The applicant knows they need to apply out of country for a very short period of time.

I get the applicants concerns now. I was hoping my CoS would come before my tier 5 expired but it didn't. It was a stressful time. I had to move out of my accommodation and purchased an unlimited flexi return ticket. I have already changed the return date once since not getting a July CoS.

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by Feeling_hopeful » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:27 pm

Has anyone with 41 points got RCOS? I've got 41 points but haven't heard anything from Home Office yet.

I know RCOS with 42 points or above are successful but not too sure about 41 points.

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by amit2453 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:41 pm

What is the minimum points required for successful application. I thought its 30 but after looking (page 7) https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 2.0ext.pdf

it looks like its 32. Could someone please clarify.

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by amit2453 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:50 pm

Urgent query:

Is there any pre-decided or set number of CoS that any employer can apply. If yes then can they request for additional. I believe employer can apply for any number of restricted CoS. Please correct me if I am wrong. It seems my HR is getting confuse and saying that she has applied for allocation which can be case for unrestricted but not for restricted.

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by anilisanil » Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:59 pm

amit2453 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:50 pm
Urgent query:

Is there any pre-decided or set number of CoS that any employer can apply. If yes then can they request for additional. I believe employer can apply for any number of restricted CoS. Please correct me if I am wrong. It seems my HR is getting confuse and saying that she has applied for allocation which can be case for unrestricted but not for restricted.
I already clearly answered you, with reference to the official guidance, what more information you require?

Why do you think there will be a limit on "unrestricted" cos and no limit on "restricted" CoS? Counter-intuitive!

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by ridwaan » Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:05 pm

45 points Non-NHS Non SOL Approved!! Applying since Jan.

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by astana » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:39 am

CR001 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:04 pm
hpr0716 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:00 pm
CR001 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:58 pm
hpr0716 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:57 pm
Would it be possible to drop down to 30 pts next month? Really anxious here as my current visa expires at the beginning of Sep....
What exactly is your 'current visa'??
I have tier 5 visa now, have 30pts just applied this month and got refusal today... non sol, non phd, non nhs
Why is your visa expiring an issue?? You cant switch in country anyway. If your sponsor still wishes to employ you, nothing stops them from doing so if they can get RCoS approval.
No. You can’t switch in country from a tier 5 visa, especially the Youth Mobility. You can apply for the CoS from anywhere but you will not be able to switch in country.

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by thisB » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:13 am

astana wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:39 am
CR001 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:04 pm
hpr0716 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:00 pm
CR001 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:58 pm

What exactly is your 'current visa'??
I have tier 5 visa now, have 30pts just applied this month and got refusal today... non sol, non phd, non nhs
Why is your visa expiring an issue?? You cant switch in country anyway. If your sponsor still wishes to employ you, nothing stops them from doing so if they can get RCoS approval.
No. You can’t switch in country from a tier 5 visa, especially the Youth Mobility. You can apply for the CoS from anywhere but you will not be able to switch in country.
Second this, you must leave the country after Tier 5 to apply for Tier 2.

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Re: July 2018 restricted COS

Post by roophysio » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:46 am

thisB wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:13 am
astana wrote:
Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:39 am
CR001 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:04 pm
hpr0716 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:00 pm


I have tier 5 visa now, have 30pts just applied this month and got refusal today... non sol, non phd, non nhs
Why is your visa expiring an issue?? You cant switch in country anyway. If your sponsor still wishes to employ you, nothing stops them from doing so if they can get RCoS approval.
No. You can’t switch in country from a tier 5 visa, especially the Youth Mobility. You can apply for the CoS from anywhere but you will not be able to switch in country.
Second this, you must leave the country after Tier 5 to apply for Tier 2.
I think it was a typo on the mod’s behalf.

Anyway..

When do the HO usually publish the statistics for the month? And does the FOI with all the numbers at each point level have to be requested by someone?

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