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Elderly ill mother

Post by alinaqvi90 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:37 pm

Hi All,

I am a British Citizen and an only child of my mother. She is a Pakistani national who has been seperated from my father for about 30 years. She is Pakistani national and has a 10 year visit visa which she uses to come see me and her British sisters for 6 months every year.

This time when she came over her arthritis flared up and she is almost completely bed bound to the point that she struggles to even get on a wheel chair. She has a portable toilet 2 feet away from her bed and that is the only time she gets out of bed pretty much. More over she is struggling with Depression and memory loss and is generally not capable of taking care of herself at all.

I have shown her to a UK Rheumatologist who has prescribed her medicines etc but they are mostly pain killers which do not help much in improving her condition.

My question is can I keep her with me on Human Rights basis some how ? I earn good money and have my own apartment in London.

I have also read about the Surinder Singh route but would that be applicable for an elderly parent ?

Any guidance about the case or links for good immigration lawyers would be much appreciated.

Many Thanks,
Ali

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Re: Elderly ill mother

Post by Obie » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:42 pm

So there is no one to look after her in Pakistan.

The test under UK rule are quiet stringent, but perhaps Surinder Singh route will work.

Your mum will need to apply from Pakistan if she wishes to move out of the UK.

Are you able to relocate to another member state?
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Re: Elderly ill mother

Post by alinaqvi90 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:51 pm

Hi Obie,

For the past 10 odd years since I have been in the UK my mother has been living together with her older sister who is a British Citizen and a widow. Both of them stay in Pakistan for 6 months and 6 months in the UK every year. Now her sister is having severe health issues as well and is unable to go back with my mom which leaves her with no carers.

With Surinder Singh route for e.g. if I relocate to Germany (my gf is German) , then my mom would have to apply for a visit visa for Germany from Pakistan right? once she gets over to Germany she can live with me for a few months and then if circumstances permit we could move back to the UK on a EEA national family permit right ?

Many Thanks,
Ali

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Re: Elderly ill mother

Post by Obie » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:58 pm

It a bit more complex than that.

Does your girlfriend live and reside in the UK at present.
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Re: Elderly ill mother

Post by alinaqvi90 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:59 pm

Yes we live together in London

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Re: Elderly ill mother

Post by Obie » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:01 pm

How long have you been living together for?
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Re: Elderly ill mother

Post by alinaqvi90 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:06 pm

Been seeing each other for over 3 years and living together for about 6 months.

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Re: Elderly ill mother

Post by Obie » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:09 pm

Ok. I guess she support your mother aswell.

Is there a doctor that will be able to confirm that your mum requires your personal care?

It is a bit complex, but there might be a solution which will not require her to return.
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Re: Elderly ill mother

Post by alinaqvi90 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:13 pm

Yes my gf takes care of both my mother and my aunt. Lucky me :D

The last time I spoke to my moms consultant he said that he could give me a letter which states that she has severe immobility and she is also at risk of broken bones etc due to severe Osteoprosis. Infact this advanced Osteoprosis treatment is not even available in 3rd world and I am getting her monthly injections which cost me about £420/month.

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Re: Elderly ill mother

Post by Obie » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:24 pm

Well that is very good. Keep all those evidence handy, including the fact that the treatment is not available in Pakistan.

Have you and your partner any plans of getting married in the near future?
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Re: Elderly ill mother

Post by alinaqvi90 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:28 pm

No plans for marraige at the moment. Would that help my case ?

Also what would be the grounds I could apply for my moms stay ?

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Re: Elderly ill mother

Post by Obie » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:29 pm

Is your partner working at present, and would she be able to sponsor your mum?
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Re: Elderly ill mother

Post by alinaqvi90 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:32 pm

Yes she is working full time just like myself. She doesnt earn as much as I do though but still decent wages.

I havent spoken to her about my moms sponsorship but I guess she will if I ask her to.

Shouldnt I be sponsoring my mom as her son rather than my partner ?

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Re: Elderly ill mother

Post by Obie » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:35 pm

As things stands you cannot sponsor your mum, as she is not permitted to apply from the UK.

I am looking at a solution that would not require her to apply from Pakistan
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Re: Elderly ill mother

Post by Obie » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:46 pm

If you went to Germany, would you be able to secure work there or a business?

Are you familiar with the German language?

The UK has a test called centre of life test, which will require a lot more than residence for few months.
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Re: Elderly ill mother

Post by alinaqvi90 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:58 pm

I work as a computer programmer so will probably work for a company in Germany. Ideally I would like to get things done in the Uk if possible.

Can my gf sponsor my mom from the UK ?

"The UK has a test called centre of life test, which will require a lot more than residence for few months." ??

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Re: Elderly ill mother

Post by Obie » Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:20 pm

Yes it is a test applicable to people who wish to explore the Surinder Singh Route.

They will have to move the "Centre of their Life" to another member state in order to qualify.

Quite a stringent test.

I think if your mother is to succeed without the need to move over, it will have to be through your partner.
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