Need some info regarding spouse visa and divorce

allalone · Post by **allalone** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:02 pm

Hi I am wondering if any of you guys could give me some information regarding my situation. I do not seem to be able to find anything regarding my circumstance.

I married a non-EU citizen in early 2005. I was lead to believe that she loved me etc.......

We got a spouses visa for her and she came over to the UK in 2005. However it became apparent that she did not love me nor want the relationship to go any further. I did not understand why someone would act and do this. After ten months she walked out on me. A mutual friend of ours explained that she married me for an ILR and to obtain as much money from a divorce settlement as possible. She was going to wait two years. But I could see that she did not want a relationship.
I am very hurt and angry with such a callous and cold hearted woman. I did not realize that people could stoop so low into making people feel wanted and then turn against them for an ILR. I must have been sooooo naive and gullible.

I started filling for a divorce in August 2006.
Her spouses visa expires in July 2007.

She has dragged the divorce proceedings out as we are still married and her solicitor has been very reluctant in discussing anything with my solicitor. In fact we have sent at least 20 letters regarding financial matters and all we have received is 4 letters over a period of 9 months.

Just to make a point there has been absolutely no violence (or reported violence ) during our marriage. I am making this point as to when I search google on the net for â€˜visa and divorceâ€˜ all I get is domestic violence web sites.

I am more curious as to what my wife can do regarding her stay in the UK she has about 12 weeks left. She has a job and is staying at some friends house. My solicitor does not show any interest in her immigration status. Loads of people are telling me to do such and such and get her kicked out of the country etc... I do not think I can do anything. I have informed the Home office of her status in August 2006.

What can she do?

What has she got to do?

What do you think she might do?

What can I do as a good UK citizen?

The above questions are regarding legal status in the UK and have nothing to do with the divorce. I do know for a fact that she most definitely does not want to go back to her home country as I believe she owes much money to a bank (which I cannot prove).

Post by **John** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:09 pm

Your situation is not unique. This has been covered a number of times before on this Board. Suggest you use the "Search" facility to locate such topics.

Do appreciate that you have nothing like a veto over whether she stays in the UK or not, and for all you know she might have already converted from her 2-year spouse visa to some other type of visa that will permit her to stay after the end of the 12-week period you mention.

allalone · Post by **allalone** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:40 pm

Before I posted my inquiry I did a search to see if what I was asking had been asked before.

Some of the questions had been asked but not satisfactorily answered.

I am still wondering what course of action my wife could take?

OL7MAX · Post by **OL7MAX** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:24 pm

After ten months she walked out on me. A mutual friend of ours explained that she married me for an ILR

If she married you for an ILR she would have stuck it out for a few months more. There is obviously more to the story.

Your interest in her immigration situation seems purely vindictive. Is your question really about how you can get her thrown out of the UK?

What can I do as a good UK citizen?

You've done it, you've informed the HO. Why do you believe there is more you can do as a "good UK citizen"?

allalone · Post by **allalone** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:57 pm

She walked out on me because I found out she was lying about the relationship.

I am not here to discuss my marriage nor indulge in anybodys suspicions about being VINDICTIVE.

SO STOP JUMPING TO ANY CONCLUSIONS

I just would like to know what my wife can do legally and if I have to do anything legally.

â€œWhy do you believe there is more you can do as a "good UK citizen"?â€

vin123 · Post by **vin123** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:10 pm

I know this situation is extremely difficult to put up with.
Immigration rules are one one side, and how you have been treated is on the other side.

There is no clear advices to fit both sides of the bill, but remaining patient and trying to forget everything is perhaps easier to say for an outsider.

Also remember, however correct or innocent you are, the institution and divorce law proceedings on marriages always takes a softer stand towards woman.
You only have lost a relationship now, but make sure you don't lose more time and energy and money if you are attempting to chase up things with a personal vendetta.

allalone · Post by **allalone** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:16 pm

To begin 10 months of marriage means that 14 months more of marriage for an ILR so you got your maths wrong.

So before your carry on about personal vendetta get your facts right Mr GoodyGoody2shoes

Besides all this I have not learnt a thing from this forum.

tdpff3 · Post by **tdpff3** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:19 pm

Unless she changes her two year spouse visa category to some other visa, your wife cannot obtain an ILR based on marriage because she will require your signature on the application form, plus she will have to prove that you two have been living together.

allalone · Post by **allalone** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:26 pm

So two people have suggested that she has changed her visa status.

Would anybody know to what?

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:27 pm

Is it not the case she is on a temporary visa so assuming she doesn't get another visa she's on borrowed time?

At the end of her FLR am I right in thinking she cannot apply for ILR since her husband with have to sign the relationship subsists?

Can I ask what her country of original is? If it's the Former Soviet Union I have a list of forums who might be able offer specific advice and not least a bit of counselling and camaraderie.

allalone · Post by **allalone** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:58 pm

I am amazed at the complexity of all this stuff, about who and why and what is allowed this and allowed all that. Itâ€™s all completely mad and who the hell dreamt all this stuff up in the first place and who wants to.

But what I have found is that it is indeed very difficult to get any information on this subject as it is too dam complicated.

I would say that my curiosity has got the better of me and needs to know what someone in my wifeâ€™s shoes can do when the divorce is all over. By the way she is from Thailand.

OL7MAX · Post by **OL7MAX** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:15 pm

I am amazed at the complexity of all this stuff, about who and why and what is allowed this and allowed all that. Itâ€™s all completely mad and who the hell dreamt all this stuff up in the first place and who wants to

It's complex only because you choose to make it so. Otherwise it's very simple - you aren't living together and she's left to her own devices to regularise her stay, or go underground. Her immigration status has nothing further to do with you. Legally. You don't have to take any further action as far as the home office is concerned. Legally

Does that answer your question?

I just would like to know what my wife can do legally and if I have to do anything legally.

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:34 pm

allalone wrote:I am amazed at the complexity of all this stuff, about who and why and what is allowed this and allowed all that. Itâ€™s all completely mad and who the hell dreamt all this stuff up in the first place and who wants to.

But what I have found is that it is indeed very difficult to get any information on this subject as it is too dam complicated.

I would say that my curiosity has got the better of me and needs to know what someone in my wifeâ€™s shoes can do when the divorce is all over. By the way she is from Thailand.

It's complicated but no more so any other legislation. It's needed to keep poor people and undesirables out. Basically our Gov is happy with people it needs for work and bolster the economy.

As for your wife, if she has desirable skills or pots of money there are visas she can get. On the other hand if she's lacking professional skills or qualification and is likely to cost our wonderful Ingsoc money in benefits or steal jobs for our boys that we can fill from home or EU then off home she must go.

After ur divorce there's no reason she can't marry another Brit and stay but I'd be a tad suspicious if I were the case worker on that one.

allalone · Post by **allalone** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:42 pm

Dear OL7MAX

Member of Standing can you please leave my thread alone. You have got the whole thing wrong. Immigration law is not simple. You are reading into my post that is not there.

If immigration laws were so simple then why do they have to have a ministers to control it, a member of the cabinet, hundreds of civil servants and ...etc.

You are reading my thread with some weird perspective and interpreting it to mean something that it does not mean.

Please go away

Docterror · Post by **Docterror** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:17 pm

Dear OL7MAX

Member of Standing can you please leave my thread alone. You have got the whole thing wrong. Immigration law is not simple. You are reading into my post that is not there.

You are reading my thread with some weird perspective and interpreting it to mean something that it does not mean.

Please go away

OL7MAX, you must be one peach of a person to come across in life, brightening up everyone's day you meet, no? (In case you didnt notice.. sarcasm included) Planning on leaving this poster alone and heading back to the poster 'champion' and having a go at him?

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:28 pm

Docterror wrote:
Dear OL7MAX

Member of Standing can you please leave my thread alone. You have got the whole thing wrong. Immigration law is not simple. You are reading into my post that is not there.

You are reading my thread with some weird perspective and interpreting it to mean something that it does not mean.

Please go away
:lol:

OL7MAX, you must be one peach of a person to come across in life, brightening up everyone's day you meet, no? (In case you didnt notice.. sarcasm included) Planning on leaving this poster alone and heading back to the poster 'champion' and having a go at him?

I think we all have bad days, I ripped into someone on another immigration forum not so much because I was in a bad mood, one post sent me over the edge and put me in one. I was druggie one tho - always liable to irk me....

Docterror · Post by **Docterror** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:41 pm

Wanderer wrote:I think we all have bad days, I ripped into someone on another immigration forum not so much because I was in a bad mood, one post sent me over the edge and put me in one. I was druggie one tho - always liable to irk me....

I don't believe that even for a sec. You are one of the better posters around. Actually there is almost always something in your posts that atleast make me smile. (.. like using Auntie Steve after an advice made me break out in laughter) and brighten my day.

But that said, everybody is entitled to an occasional off-day, not 24/7 service of misinterpretation, exaggerations and overall bitter attitude dished out wholesale! There is a personality fault somewhere in there. The only reason I do bother engage with him is, inspite of all this, he does sound knowledgable at times.

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:01 pm

Docterror wrote:
Wanderer wrote:I think we all have bad days, I ripped into someone on another immigration forum not so much because I was in a bad mood, one post sent me over the edge and put me in one. I was druggie one tho - always liable to irk me....
I don't believe that even for a sec. You are one of the better posters around. Actually there is almost always something in your posts that atleast make me smile. (.. like using Auntie Steve after an advice made me break out in laughter) and brighten my day.

I do my best - I do find this board a little bit humourless but then again most people aren't here looking for a laugh.....

But we've all got personality traits that tend to bring out the negative in us, like with me it's drugs, and people who've met on the internet and are looking to bring their girlfriends here after two weeks....

I actually met mine on the internet, for language tutorage, three years later and two of them living together we're still not rushing into it!

OL7MAX · Post by **OL7MAX** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:05 pm

He has not answered the question as to whether his query is about getting her thrown out of the UK. The only other interpretation I can see is that he is concerned about both of them doing the right thing legally. I've answered that in my last post. Feel free to offer him any different advice.

vin123 · Post by **vin123** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:55 pm

Haha...you are one hell of a person who wants others to contribute to the thread-of-your cause, everyone types in so-so and you take what is pleasurable and merry to read and bash the rest ? great attitude !

Oh yes, this is ONE piece of advice ....Don't even think of even attempting to throw her out of UK by stripping her immigration status. Rest assured, you will be a loser.

allalone wrote:To begin 10 months of marriage means that 14 months more of marriage for an ILR so you got your maths wrong.

So before your carry on about personal vendetta get your facts right Mr GoodyGoody2shoes

Besides all this I have not learnt a thing from this forum.

Docterror · Post by **Docterror** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:36 pm

...you are one hell of a person who wants others to contribute to the thread-of-your cause, everyone types in so-so and you take what is pleasurable and merry to read and bash the rest ? great attitude !

... But, how many people you know like to bash the pleasurable and merry and prefer to take the rest?.. and I mean life in general, not just on a forum.

Post by **John** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:41 pm

I feel this topic has run its course ... closed!

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Need some info regarding spouse visa and divorce

Need some info regarding spouse visa and divorce