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HUMBLE REQUEST FOR QUICK HELP PLEASE..PLZ

Post by sort33 » Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:18 pm

Hi everyone,

My visa is expiring this month end.
I need to go to my home country to change my visa from stamp 2 to stamp 3.
But im thinking of going in august due to personal problems, It means I am overstaying my stamp 2 visa by almost 2 months.

Can anyone please tell me is it a very big offence and will there be adverse effects of my overstay when i apply for stamp 3.

I want to totally take my decision based on your valuable suggestions. Plz give me ur suggestions. Thanks a million.

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Post by Ben » Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:12 pm

I'm not encouraging you to overstay, but bear in mind that Irish airports *generally* to not monitor outgoing passengers.

Your post isn't that clear though. You currently hold Stamp 2 - so you're a student, right? And your student visa is expiring? So, you've finished your course and going home, right?

So.. why are you intending on getting Stamp 3 (which, by the way, is a type of residence permit issued to visitors or spouse dependents, it's not a visa)? With Stamp 3 you've no right of employment / education, either.

Could you elaborate?

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Post by sort33 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:36 pm

Hi

Thanks a lot for ur reply...thanks...atleast someone gave me an answer..& im sorry for not being clear...

You are right, I am on student visa(stamp 2) and it expired this month.

Actually my spouse is here in ireland on work permit and we went to the GNIB for change of my visa from student to spouse/dependent visa, But the officials told us to write to Department of Justice or go to my home country and apply. My visa was expiring on 29th June and we went to the GNIB on 20th June.

On the same day we also posted all the relavent docs and covering letter to the department of justice, explaining our situation and requesting them to change my visa from student to spouse visa. But there has been nothing yet from there side. And I think it might take very long so decided to go to my home country.

Now as it happened so quickly I am not able to leave the country within the required time and I might end up overstaying by atleast 1 month. But I am very worried what will be the effect of my overstay on my future applications.

Sorry for boring you with such a long one, but I dint want to miss anything and be clear.

Thanks a million.

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Post by Ben » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:08 pm

I understand, thanks for explaining.
sort33 wrote:..and I might end up overstaying by atleast 1 month. But I am very worried what will be the effect of my overstay on my future applications..
Does your home country stamp your passport, when you are returning home? EEA countries generally don't (as far as I know), stamp the passports of their own (or other EEA) citizens, but I know that some non-EEA countries do practice this.

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Post by sort33 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:07 pm

Sorry i missed this, both my spouse and myself are from NON EU.
And Iam due to undergo a Ultra sound at an hospital as the GP referred me to the hospital. But I am only having the blood reports of May, no other letter. Iam still awaiting the letter from hospital for the scan. I will even ask my GP to give me a letter. Can u plz tell me in what format the letter should be. Iam basically not able to travel due to my this condition.

And in my country they do stamp the date of arrival on the passport at the airport immigration desk.

And after going through your suggestions Iam thinking of travelling as early as possible, as & when iam even little bit OK.mostly within next couple of weeks.

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Post by Ben » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:35 pm

sort33 wrote:Sorry i missed this, both my spouse and myself are from NON EU.
And Iam due to undergo a Ultra sound at an hospital as the GP referred me to the hospital. But I am only having the blood reports of May, no other letter. Iam still awaiting the letter from hospital for the scan. I will even ask my GP to give me a letter. Can u plz tell me in what format the letter should be. Iam basically not able to travel due to my this condition.

And in my country they do stamp the date of arrival on the passport at the airport immigration desk.

And after going through your suggestions Iam thinking of travelling as early as possible, as & when iam even little bit OK.mostly within next couple of weeks.
In that case, and I'm open to correction, but I think your only option is either to return to your country - before the expiration of your current student visa - and apply for a Spouse visa from there. Or, stay in Ireland and apply to the DoJ for Stamp 3, as the spouse of a work permit holder.

To be honest with you, if I were in your shoes, I'd probably do the latter. I know dealing with the DoJ is not always the nicest of experiences, but I'd sooner that than be split from my spouse for a (possibly quite lengthy) time, while waiting for the issuance of a spouse visa in my country of origin.

Besides, I know of a few non-EU couples in Ireland, where one spouse is a work permit holder, and the other holds Stamp 3. The DoJ would have to have a very good reason if they were to decide not to grant you Stamp 3.

As a side note, I'm sure you already know that, once granted Stamp 3, the spouse of a work permit holder can apply for his/her own work permit. Further info here.

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Post by sort33 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:55 pm

Thanks once agian for the pains you are taking to post your replies..

My student visa expired yesterday. So there is no question of leaving before visa expiration.

I completely agree with you, of staying here and waiting for the DOJ's decision.
We did write to the DOJ, but nothing yet from them and I understand that they take very long time. And I cant literally do anything and more over I will b without status and not able to travel anywhere, dont know for how long.

My spouse is accompanying me to my home country.
In my home country they generally issue a spouse visa within 10 days. But as you said what if they take long or reject. Its very uncomfortable and tricky situation for me. But I am only worried of my this (at most)couple of weeks overstay. Do you think they can reject my application because i overstayed for couple of weeks due to medical reasons.

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Post by Ben » Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:59 pm

sort33 wrote:..Do you think they can reject my application because i overstayed for couple of weeks due to medical reasons.
I don't know, I'm sorry. Hopefully someone will come on soon who does. Good luck!

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Post by sort33 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:12 pm

I really appreciate and thank you for sparing your time in posting the replies....thanks a million

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Post by mktsoi » Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:23 pm

sort33 wrote:I really appreciate and thank you for sparing your time in posting the replies....thanks a million
i was trying to type this earlier when i was at work but the power went down so i couldnt finish it. i start again now. anyway, i just want to tell you and you make the call youself after you read what i have to say.

i was working in dublin few years ago and left last year. i got a job offer in sept 2001. it took my employer 5 months to get me the first work permit. i couldnot start work until jan 2002 in dublin. in my work permit said that if i want to renew my work permit, i have to inform my emplyer 3 months before my work permit expires. so i did inform them. my employer made a mistake. they told me they dont know that i need a work permit to work. so they actually put in a work permit renewal application for me a week before xmas in 2002. my employer also told me that, they have been told by the dept of enterprise that told my employer that it will take at least 6 weeks before they give me a new work permit and i wont be able to work if my original work permit expired and new work permit has not arrived. my employer even told me that they wont pay me if i cannot work but it wasnt even my fault that because i informed them. anyway, i was wondering between GNIB and dept of enterprise. i got to talk to someone in dept of foreign affairs inside GNIB building. now it is part of INIS. anyway, this lady i spoke to in dept of forign affairs. she told me that my employer either lying to me or they have got the false information from dept of enterprise. anyway, the lady in the dept of forign affairs told me that, by the law, if my employer put in a work permit renewal application to dept of foreign affairs before my original work permit expires, i can still work and get pay from my employer until dept of enterprise say YES or NO to my work permit renewal application. and i got the confirmation from dept of enterprise about what the lady in dept of foreign affairs told me. also, i can get pay and work without a work permit. it doesnt mean i dont need to renew my permission to remain. i went to GNIB and told them the story and i also showed them a letter from my employer saying that the work permit renewal application has been submitted to dept of enterprise. they gave me 3 months permissiont to remain wihtout sasking any question.

look, i am little bit luckier compare to some of the people in ireland because i am a non visa required national, so i only have to deal with GNIB only for now and dont have to deal with dept of foreign affairs when i leave or enter the country. you are in the country already. look, GNIB is part of dept of justice. i have been telling people in this forum. if GNIB told you to apply to dept of justice to change your status. they will have to provide you a temp status to make you legal in the country until the dept of justice make a decision in you case. do you understand what i am trying to say here????????? If you ever wrote to dept of justice already, you go back to GNIB and ask them to give you a permission to remain as visitor until dept of justice make a decision in your case! if course, you have to show prove that you can enough money to stay in the coutnry and the normal bullshit they look for in a visitor! look, most of those people work in GNIB dont know what they doing, i even saw a gal working behine a GNIB counter texting with her cell phone while 100 people still waiting to get their permission to remain renew in Dublin. also, you can check with immigrant council of ireland in dublin 2 about what i said before you go to gnib again. look, if they told you that they wont give you anything in gnib, just ask them to explain can you be illegal in the country while you have a pending case in dept of justice????? is that legal? look, they cannot just make up law here but sadly thats what the dept of justice is doing. sometime they tell people false info.

yes, in you case, you can go back to your home country to apply, but also, you can apply in dublin while you are in the country. the gnib either give you a temperary visitor statuse in your passport until dept of justice to make a decision on you application to change your status OR DEPORT YOU RIGHT AT THE DATE THAT YOU ARE BEING ILLEGAL IN THE COUNTRY!

i dont know do you follow the news in ireland much. this is not the first time i comment on stuff like this about GNIB. they just refuse to do what they suppose to do for all the immigrant in need. they told you that they cannot do anything for you and you have to write dept of justice about this. the reason i asked if you followed the news in ireland. remember the dublin city council gave out planning permission for the incinerator to be built in dubin bay. i left ireland already, but last time i have heard they putting it on hold now because there is more talk underway. but in the first place. when dublin city council gave out plannign permission for the incinerator. my gormley( the minister for environment ) said he cannot do anything about the planning permission. look, he has the executive power over all the environmental issue in ireland and he can or could refuse anything if it is environmentally bad for ireland but he told people that he cannot do anything about this. it is just the same as the gnib told you that they cannot change you status and cannot renew your permission to remain. the gnib might not be able to change your status from student to visitor but i am sure they can grant you a permission to remain as visitor until dept of justice say yes or no to you. thats their job there, grant permission to remain to people based on their situation!

damn, this is way to long i wrote but i hope you can understand what i am trying to say.

good luck for whatever you decide to do!
look, you are in the country already.

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Post by sort33 » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:11 pm

Thanks a lot for giving me your valuable suggestions and sparing so much time in posting.

I dont know what will happen but I am really happy and it really lighted up my day seeing your responses and trying to show me a way.

I understood what you were trying to tell me.
Yeah I can approach the GNIB explaining them that my student visa expired and I am waiting for the DOJ's decision on my status change and ask them to issue for any temp visa untill i get a decision from DOJ. In that case they can either issue me a temp visa or deport me. I really dont want the later, I even dont mind leaving for good but I dont want such a thing to me.

Actually my mind is totally blocked now thinking so much for so long and bad health.
I even got my ticket for 20th July to leave to my home country. Actually I thought of going to the GNIB today to tell them that my visa expired and I am leaving on 20th, but staying these couple of weeks as doctors suggested me not to travel for atleast 3 weeks. But I could not.
Yeah but I again feel, as you said that I am in the country already and I am I complicating things for myself. But I feel that I dint do anything wrong all my papers are fine, they told me to cross the border and apply so I am applying and I really dont know how it goes and what happens.
Sorry I am not able to type much now....but I will surely let you know what is happening with me..
Thanks a million...

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Post by mktsoi » Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:37 am

hi,

nah, i was saying by law that if they know that you are ilegally living in th country. they shoud deport you. but the real life senerio is that they wont do anything and just wont renew you permission to remain. dept of justice done many stupid things already, if you read enough in this forum. you properly read more then enough about how they talk to up in the EU1 application. i dont know where your home country is, but the last thing they wanted to do is take a chance to deport you. by the international law, if ireland deport you back to your home country, if your home country's government decide they dont want to take you back. the irish government will have to grant you status to live in ireland regardless who you are. i dont think the irish wants to do that and granting someone right to live in ireland and look stupid. i was saying the deportation stuff just look at the legal point of view.

i dont know the spouse visa application procedure enough to be honest. i dont know where you live in ireland, but like i said. you better off go to check with immigrant council or migrant right center in dublin. they have office all over ireland anyway.

if anyone read this post, and think i am wrong, please correct me, but here is how i understand the procedure of things in respect of the law point of view. dept of justice have no say when you applying for spouse VISA outside of ireland. you applying for a VISA which allows you to travel to ireland. it is the dept of foreign affairs responsible for this. they might consult with the dept of justice but to issue the spouse visa or not, thats up to the dept of foreign affairs, BUT let say the dept of foreign affairs said yes to give you a spouse visa to travel to ireland. when you entering the country. now this is when dept of justice comes in. when you arrived into the airport. all the immigration official and the garda are part of dept of justice. may be the dept of foreign affairs grant you right to travel to ireland, but it doest mean the dept of justice will grant you right to enter or live in the country. it is entirely up to the dept of justice. like i said, if they wanted to, the GNIB can change your status without you going to the so call dept of justice because the GNIB holding the rubber stamp and they can stamp on anyone passport.

if i were you, try to be honest to those guys instead of staying ilegally, they should give you a temperoray status to tie you over til you finish your medical appointment. plus your spouse is working in ireland. it shouldnt be a problem. like i said, go check with the immigrant council or migrant right center. they would have a better idea then i do about how those idiot works in GNIB. i can understand if you having a baby and have to worrry about this, but when you go to see those guys in immigrant council or migrant right center, be honest to them and dont lie, they should be able to help you out and point you to the right direction.

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Post by sort33 » Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:30 pm

First of all I want to THANK YOU VERY MUCH each one of you.

Sorry for not posting before.

I could not go to the GNIB on Tuesday due to my health.

I went to the GNIB TODAY (office was almost empty with very few people)with my GP letters, hospital appointment scheduled letters stating that I was unable to travel last week and would not be able to travel before this month end as I need to undergo further investigations and Endoscopy. I even took along with me CONFIRMED TICKETS TO MY HOME COUNTRY for 21st July. The tickets were for me and my spouse. My passpost and GNIB card. I did not take any other documents with me except stated above.

Now coming to what exactly happened at the GNIB office today after I went with the above docs.

To start with, the GNIB officer (there were 2, 3 elderly people. I felt like they are supervisors not normal GNIB officials. They were talking to each other as there were very few ppl) at the ticket issuing section saw my passport and GNIB card and asked me what for I came today. I explained to him that my student visa expired by last month end but I could not travel before that date due to very bad health and doctors advised me not to travel before few more investigations and not untill 20th July. And I told him that I booked the ticket for 21st July and showed him all the docs. Then I requested him to issue me any visa or letter so that my stay of 21days in the state b considered as legal and I can travel to my home country as I dont want to be or travel as an overstayed person. I requested him that I want to keep my records neat and dont want to b in troubles. Even my spouse was with me.

The officer dint even see my medical letters nor the air ticket. He scaned my GNIB card and started asking me did I write to the DOJ ( before this, throughout my conversation I never mentioned about my stamp 3 or my letter to the DOJ). Then I told him that, yes my spouse wrote, because when I applied for change of my status from stamp 2 to stamp 3 officials have told me to write to DOJ or apply from crossing the border. So we wrote to DOJ, but now I decided to go to my home country and apply from there.

Then he straight away told me(without seeing any docs) that as you wrote to the DOJ and their decision is pending regarding the change of your status, now I cant issue you with any kind of visa. You can show all these docs at your home country arrival immigration. Then I started explaining him again that the officials there might cause me trouble as I overstayed in this state and returning home and that I dont want to travel on an expired visa overstayed. I told him that since the previous GNIB official told me to apply from my home country I wanted to go and apply, but I could not leave within the expiry date due to my adverse health. (And even asked him that does the ireland embassy offcials in my home country tell me the same thing when I apply from my home country for stamp 3, that they cant issue the visa since i wrote to the DOJ and as their decision is pending they cant give me a visa, then he said that as I am leaving the state they will not say that when I apply from my home country.) (But I felt like he is not 100%sure of that, I dont know). He again told me the same thing. I was about to leave but once again tried to request him, then without talking he turned back and printed a ticket and gave it to me. (He gave me the ticket and again asked me what number ticket did I give you, then i told him 158 )

NOW at the counter 2. ( a young GNIB official, somehow got impression in my mind that he is a good guy).

I dont know how it worked out (I think this official was already told about my issue). He asked me out I can do for you today. Then I again explained to him everything (but not with such detail, because I lost hope). He read one of the GP letters. Then he said he will be back and took my GNIB card and passport to the officials where the ticket was issued). After that he went inside I dont know where.

YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPNED NEXT. CAN ANYONE BELIEVE THIS.

A really pleasant looking offical came with my GNIB card and he straight away asked for my spouse's passport(luckly my spouse brought the passport along). He dint even ask for the GNIB card.

Then he told me that he is going to ISSUE ME SPOUSE VISA TILL THE EXPIRY DATE OF MY SPOUSE'S VISA.

WOW, CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS. I dont know how it worked out.

Then the actuall guy came he took 100euroes and my photo and told me to wait to b called to collect the new GNIB card.

In my understanding I thought that they pulled out my application to the DOJ saw all the docs(remember I only sent photocopies) and really gave their wonderful decision. I am so HAPPY, very happy. AND I AM VERY THANKFUL TO THE GNIB OFFICIALS BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO FIND OUT THE GENUINITY AND GAVE A PERFECT DECISION WHEN IT REALLY MATTERED THE MOST.

Now I need not go to my home country to apply, they really saved lot of hassel to me.

FINALLY I GOT MY STAMP 2 CHANGED TO STAMP 3. AND I TELL YOU THAT IN MY ISSUE IT REALLY DINT TAKE MUCH TIME ATALL. Except I had to undergo lot of mental pressure especially when I was having bad health.

ONCE AGAIN I WANT TO THANK EACH ONE OF YOU FOR HELPING ME SUPPORTING ME AND CORRECTING ME AND GIVING VALUABLE SUGGESTIONS.

I wish you all the very best and GOOD LUCK in your careers and personal life!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by Ben » Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:04 pm

Great news sort33!

Glad it all worked out. A really pleasant surprise from the DoJ, huh?

Thanks also for taking the time to post your experiences. :)

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Post by sort33 » Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:38 pm

If it wasn't you all I would not have gone to the GNIB at all.
Because I decided to go to my home country and apply.
But I was worried about the 20days overstay. And I wanted to keep myself away from trouble.
If I would not not have got suggestions from this forum and another one I would have left with the overstay, thinking nothing else to do.

THE ONLY THING I DID FROM MY SIDE IS BEING HONEST 100%.

I SPECIALLY THANK MKTSOI. I REALLY LEARNT LOT OF THINGS FROM YOU AND YOUR VALUABLE SUGGESTIONS HELPED ME A LOT.

I ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU ALL.....

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Post by mktsoi » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:53 am

sort33 wrote:


NOW at the counter 2. ( a young GNIB official, somehow got impression in my mind that he is a good guy).

I dont know how it worked out (I think this official was already told about my issue). He asked me out I can do for you today. Then I again explained to him everything (but not with such detail, because I lost hope). He read one of the GP letters. Then he said he will be back and took my GNIB card and passport to the officials where the ticket was issued). After that he went inside I dont know where.

YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPNED NEXT. CAN ANYONE BELIEVE THIS.

A really pleasant looking offical came with my GNIB card and he straight away asked for my spouse's passport(luckly my spouse brought the passport along). He dint even ask for the GNIB card.

Then he told me that he is going to ISSUE ME SPOUSE VISA TILL THE EXPIRY DATE OF MY SPOUSE'S VISA.
so have they issue you that a permission until when? until you fly home or they issued you a proper stamp 3 as a spouse for the year? if they issued you a proper stamp 3 for the year. thats very good news.

i have wrote many times here in this website. once when you are in ireland legally. the only department you have to deal with is GNIB and no one else. if you are visa required national, then you will have to deal with dept of foreign affairs. AND GNIB is part of dept of justice. you were saying that the nice officer came out and he already knew the story? to be honest. you cant really lie about anything anyway because they would have most of the record in their computer anyway, so it is better to be honest instead. back to the first guy you spoke to in the GNIB. that was the typical idiot i was telling people about in this place. unhelpfuly and cant even think. like i mentioned to you before. i am not legal expert. i am just looking at it from the legal point of view with common sense. if you already in the country and have a pending case in the legal system. they will have to give you a temp status to tie you over until the dept reached a decision on your case. how can they expect people to stay in the country illegally and waiting for a legal decision. they either tell you to leave or give you something. even they tell you to leave. they cannot just tell you over the phone or in front of you. it has to be written in a paper with dept of justice crest on it otherwise nothing is legal.

and one more time to proof what i said before. how long did it take them to change your stamp2 to stamp3? less then half of the day, right? i have been telling people. the GNIB has the rubber stamp of the minister for justice. they can stamp on whoever they want whenever they want to change the migrant status as they wish. dont worry, unless you are some high profile migrant case in the country, otherwise it will only be some civil servant in GNIB will make the decision on your case! and they can do it as they wish!

i am in some kind of trouble myself but i am glad that it worked out for you. enjoy your life in ireland!

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Post by sort33 » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:44 am

Hi mktsoi,

They did issue a proper stamp3 till the expiry of my spouse's work permit i.e, for almost one and half year.

Yeah, I totally agree with you, they can really do anything.
It din't even take 1day or half day, it just took less than 30mins.

In my opinion I think they went through the file which I sent to the DOJ before coming to this decision at the counter, because I was not carrying any other docs not even my marriage certificate.

The only point was they told me to go to my home country for change of my status from stamp 2 to stamp 3. I decided to go, but could not within the date of expiry of my visa due to very bad health. I approached them honestly as I am overstaying for 20days and requesting them to make my 20days stay legal, so that my record will be up to date. So they might have decided to remove the root problem of change of stamp 2 to stamp 3 and gave me stamp 3 straight away.

Anyhow its done now. And as you said, it only happend because I was honest throughout and dint take chances thinking I might get away overstaying as it is just for less than a month. It only happend because of your all suggestions.
Thanks once again...

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Post by mktsoi » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:29 am

sort33 wrote:Hi mktsoi,

They did issue a proper stamp3 till the expiry of my spouse's work permit i.e, for almost one and half year.

Yeah, I totally agree with you, they can really do anything.
It din't even take 1day or half day, it just took less than 30mins.

In my opinion I think they went through the file which I sent to the DOJ before coming to this decision at the counter, because I was not carrying any other docs not even my marriage certificate.

The only point was they told me to go to my home country for change of my status from stamp 2 to stamp 3. I decided to go, but could not within the date of expiry of my visa due to very bad health. I approached them honestly as I am overstaying for 20days and requesting them to make my 20days stay legal, so that my record will be up to date. So they might have decided to remove the root problem of change of stamp 2 to stamp 3 and gave me stamp 3 straight away.

Anyhow its done now. And as you said, it only happend because I was honest throughout and dint take chances thinking I might get away overstaying as it is just for less than a month. It only happend because of your all suggestions.
Thanks once again...
geesh. are you kidding me!!!!!! the dept of enterprise gave you a spouse work permit before you started to post in this website????? so you already have a spouse work permit right from start???? right?

now now, then those idiot in GNIB was telling you bullcrap right from the start. like i mentioned. doesnt matter dept of foreign affairs gave you a visa to travel to ireland. it doesnt mean the department of justice would grant you the permission to remain. it is up to them to say yes or no. same thing. if you have a work permit, green card or work authorization granted by dept of enterprise. again, you still need to go to tell GNIB and get you permission to remain change while you are in the ireland.

i thought you didnt have your spouse work permit and only have the student visa label and student permission to remain in your passport. the GNIB really did give you false information on changing the stamp 2 to stamp 3. because you already inside the country and have a work permit. they can change it for you, but if they refused to change it for you even you have a spouse work permit. they have to give you a reason other then to tell you to apply for a spouse visa in your country because a spouse visa only allows u to travel to ireland but not to work.

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Post by Ben » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:38 am

mktsoi wrote:
sort33 wrote:Hi mktsoi,

They did issue a proper stamp3 till the expiry of my spouse's work permit i.e, for almost one and half year.

Yeah, I totally agree with you, they can really do anything.
It din't even take 1day or half day, it just took less than 30mins.

In my opinion I think they went through the file which I sent to the DOJ before coming to this decision at the counter, because I was not carrying any other docs not even my marriage certificate.

The only point was they told me to go to my home country for change of my status from stamp 2 to stamp 3. I decided to go, but could not within the date of expiry of my visa due to very bad health. I approached them honestly as I am overstaying for 20days and requesting them to make my 20days stay legal, so that my record will be up to date. So they might have decided to remove the root problem of change of stamp 2 to stamp 3 and gave me stamp 3 straight away.

Anyhow its done now. And as you said, it only happend because I was honest throughout and dint take chances thinking I might get away overstaying as it is just for less than a month. It only happend because of your all suggestions.
Thanks once again...
geesh. are you kidding me!!!!!! the dept of enterprise gave you a spouse work permit before you started to post in this website????? so you already have a spouse work permit right from start???? right?

now now, then those idiot in GNIB was telling you bullcrap right from the start. like i mentioned. doesnt matter dept of foreign affairs gave you a visa to travel to ireland. it doesnt mean the department of justice would grant you the permission to remain. it is up to them to say yes or no. same thing. if you have a work permit, green card or work authorization granted by dept of enterprise. again, you still need to go to tell GNIB and get you permission to remain change while you are in the ireland.

i thought you didnt have your spouse work permit and only have the student visa label and student permission to remain in your passport. the GNIB really did give you false information on changing the stamp 2 to stamp 3. because you already inside the country and have a work permit. they can change it for you, but if they refused to change it for you even you have a spouse work permit. they have to give you a reason other then to tell you to apply for a spouse visa in your country because a spouse visa only allows u to travel to ireland but not to work.
No mktsoi!

sort33 said, "They did issue a proper stamp3 till the expiry of my spouse's work permit i.e, for almost one and half year. "

Meaning, the DoJ issued sort33 with Stamp 3 - with validity until the expiration of the work permit of his spouse.

At the present time, sort33 does not hold a spousal work permit.

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Post by sort33 » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:39 am

NO NO....I was not holding a spousal work permit.
I was holding a STUDENT VISA. I was only having student visa label and student permission to remain in my passport.

I meant they issued me a spouse visa(stamp 3) valid till my spouse's work permit expire. As I said before, my spouse is on work permit..

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