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keval99
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HSMP

Post by keval99 » Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:18 am

Hai,

I am planning to apply HSMP, I am working in a company in UK.

I am not happy with my present company, they give me low salary as compared to britishers...


My questions:

1. Should i have to inform my company that i am applying for hsmp.

2. If the company come to know that i have applied hsmp can they sack me for it...


Please guide me...

Keval

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Re: HSMP

Post by olisun » Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:38 am

keval99 wrote: I am not happy with my present company, they give me low salary as compared to britishers...
it's discrimination and have you raised this with the HR?

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Re: HSMP

Post by keval99 » Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:08 am

olisun wrote:
keval99 wrote: I am not happy with my present company, they give me low salary as compared to britishers...
it's discrimination and have you raised this with the HR?
Hi Olisun,

Thanks for the reply.

There is no HR in my company, a small company, My MD-Managing Director is HR also.

If i raise this issuse he might not like and cancel my work permit.

Please tell me, in UK it is very easy to sack any employee by giving one month of notice..without any warning.

I am working hard so far they do n't have any problem with my work.

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Re: HSMP

Post by ball1333 » Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:03 pm

Keval, you have answered your own questions. If you are afraid of being sacked, don't talk to your boss about HSMP! On the other hand, if you were to discuss the topic with him by saying, "I know it costs you a fee every year for me to be on a Work Permit. What if I obtain my own HSMP visa, which will be valid for 2 years, by paying for it myself?" perhaps he would think you were trying to do him a favour.

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Post by antony » Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:09 am

Tell him a round about and any employer who is ready to save for the benefit of the company will definitely allow to process ahead.

But be cautious and all the best.
If the opportunity doesn't knock, build a door.

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Re: HSMP

Post by olisun » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:19 pm

keval99 wrote:There is no HR in my company, a small company, My MD-Managing Director is HR also.
Are you saying that you being paid less than your collague, who is a Britisher and is also at the same level as you in your company?

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Re: HSMP

Post by keval99 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:35 pm

olisun wrote:
keval99 wrote:There is no HR in my company, a small company, My MD-Managing Director is HR also.
Are you saying that you being paid less than your collague, who is a Britisher and is also at the same level as you in your company?
,

Yes, same job role and skill, I am getting 4,000 pound less p.a.
I can n't do anything...I am bonded slave....welcome to real world...

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Post by gordon » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:48 pm

There are any number of reasons why a salary differential might persist: years in the job and/or with the company, prior experience, qualifications etc. Your starting salary (base) might simply have been lower, based on an uncontested offer; there may even be a budget constraint. You need to examine all of the factors and determine whether you are being short-changed; if you are being short-changed, then approach that MD about a possible adjustment based on equity. And present your case convincingly.

But a defeatist attitude will not promote your cause; indeed, how could one entirely blame your manager for taking advantage, if you're possibly perceived as willing to take it lying down ?

AG

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Post by makon » Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:17 pm

I agree with Gordon. Salary is not based solely on job role/title rather on experience and bargaining power. and most at times it is also based on your previous earnings before you join the company. Did the MD asked you of your previous earnings during the recruitment process? And if so, what is the difference between what you are earning now and the previous earnings you told him?

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Post by keval99 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:14 pm

makon wrote:I agree with Gordon. Salary is not based solely on job role/title rather on experience and bargaining power. and most at times it is also based on your previous earnings before you join the company. Did the MD asked you of your previous earnings during the recruitment process? And if so, what is the difference between what you are earning now and the previous earnings you told him?
Hi,

About me

Working in Electrical company ( not electronic).

No previous earning from UK, My current salary is 25k, i have 3 yrs of work exp of India plus UK master degree.

About my friend:-

Worked in Electronic (FPGA) salary was 26k had 3 yrs of work exp, he is on 29k...no master degree.....also no electrical experience....i am giving him training...

Welcome to real world of life....

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Re: HSMP

Post by itsme » Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:55 am

keval99 wrote:Hai,

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1. Should i have to inform my company that i am applying for hsmp. -- No need to inform your company about your HSMP application

2. If the company come to know that i have applied hsmp can they sack me for it...
If i am not wrong, Company has all the rights to cancel your work permit any time, by writing a letter to Home Office.


Please guide me...

Keval
But these days there is a good rate of HSMP appln. success. go ahead follow the rules and am sure you will get a +ve result. All the best
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Post by gordon » Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:46 am

And assuming that all your paperwork is in order, it's entirely possible that you could submit an application without your employer's knowledge. You could get online payslips endorsed on the pretext of getting a mortgage (or something like that), and you could submit bank statements instead of an employer's letter (since you may not have a tax return covering the earnings period claimed). The only problem would be giving your employer's contact information for verification purposes, but you would have to evaluate what the risk of that happening would be.
AG

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Post by makon » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:20 pm

if your case is very straightword there will be need to contact your employer.

regarding the payslips, tell your employer that you need to obtain a financial product as someone suggested already, or that you need to invite ur relatives for a visit to the Uk and that they need to submit an application to the uk embassy in your country. Ask to add a cover letter with the company's letter headed paper, stating that the attach pay slips on which he has appended his signature and company stamp are the official payslips issued to you.

also, on your bank statement, what is the entry against your salary. Is your employers name shown as the person who deposited the money, or is it just Bank Credit or Salary? If the employers name is shown then u don't have much problem. all that u need is to present ur case well.

gd luck

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