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Should I go for second Tier 1 (General) Extension ?

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Should I go for second Tier 1 (General) Extension ?

Post by numo » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:26 pm

Hi Team,

I need you expert feedback and input on my Tier 1 (General) & ILR.

I am currently in dilemma and not able to find out what is the way forward as Tier 1 (General) extension is closing in Apr-2015. If you can please provide your feedback on below questions it will be really appreciated.

Visa Details:
Tier 1 (Post Study Work) : 30-Nov-2009 To 30-Nov-2011
Tier 1 (General) : 22-Mar-2011 To 22-Mar-2013 (Switched to Tier 1 (general) - In Country application)
Tier 1 (General) Extension : 01-Mar-2013 to 01-Mar-2016


In order to qualify for ILR, 5 years continues period is required. Based on my visa date my ILR eligible date would be 22-Mar-2016. But in my First Tier 1 (General) Extension my Leave to remain period was cut shot by 22 day, so do I have to go for second Tier 1 (General) extension to fill up 22 days to qualify for ILR ?

Secondly, if second Tier 1 (General) extension is not needed, from what date I will be eligible to submit my ILR application ?

It will be really appreciated if you can assist with my queries.

Thanks

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Re: Should I go for second Tier 1 (General) Extension ?

Post by Malik44 » Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:19 am

numo wrote:Hi Team,

I need you expert feedback and input on my Tier 1 (General) & ILR.

I am currently in dilemma and not able to find out what is the way forward as Tier 1 (General) extension is closing in Apr-2015. If you can please provide your feedback on below questions it will be really appreciated.

Visa Details:
Tier 1 (Post Study Work) : 30-Nov-2009 To 30-Nov-2011
Tier 1 (General) : 22-Mar-2011 To 22-Mar-2013 (Switched to Tier 1 (general) - In Country application)
Tier 1 (General) Extension : 01-Mar-2013 to 01-Mar-2016


In order to qualify for ILR, 5 years continues period is required. Based on my visa date my ILR eligible date would be 22-Mar-2016. But in my First Tier 1 (General) Extension my Leave to remain period was cut shot by 22 day, so do I have to go for second Tier 1 (General) extension to fill up 22 days to qualify for ILR ?

You don't need another Tier 1 G extension you can directly apply ILR

Secondly, if second Tier 1 (General) extension is not needed, from what date I will be eligible to submit my ILR application ?

As per UKBA rule you can apply 28 days before to complete your 5 years,
your ILR eligibility date start 23rd Feb to onward
You can apply ILR in between 23rd Feb 2016 to 1st March 2016




It will be really appreciated if you can assist with my queries.

Thanks

numo
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Re: Should I go for second Tier 1 (General) Extension ?

Post by numo » Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:02 pm

Hi Malik,

Thank you for your reply. You have really assisted and answered my queries to the point. I did few reading on the internet and there were few content with conflicting information.

I came across an ILR document on UKVI website (ILR: calculating continuous period in UK) which talk about calculating continue 5 years period. It say the 5 years is calculated from the date application is received at visa office.

So for example, if I submit my application for ILR at PEO on 25th Feb 2016, going back 5 year it comes out to be 25th Feb 2011. So the switching period from 25th Feb 2011 [Tier 1 - PSW] to 22-Mar-2011 [Initial Tier 1-General], i.e total of 25 days, I was on PSW visa which is not counted toward my total 5 years. How UKVI consider this 25 day shortfall ?

Secondly, UKVI define 28 days qualifying period in which candidate with continue stay of 5 years is eligible to submit their ILR application. In my case, my qualifying date is 22-March-2016, but in my second Tier 1 General Extension, my visa was cut short by 22 days resulting into visa expiry on 01-March-2016. There is this 22 days [from 01-Mar-2016 to 22-Mar-2016] which is unaccounted in my 5 years continues period. How UKVI consider this unaccounted period and is there a need for me to look at going for second Tier 1 (General) extension to fill the unaccounted 22 days?

Lastly, if extension not needed and with 22 day shortfall, will it be ok if I apply for ILR at PEO between 22-Feb-2016 to 01-Mar-2016 or postal application is a safe play ?

You expert feedback will be highly appreciated.

Thanks

Malik44
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Re: Should I go for second Tier 1 (General) Extension ?

Post by Malik44 » Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:52 am

with reference to your above query please read SET(O) policy guideline for more clarification.
please read page 4
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _11-14.pdf

also read 28 days - (page 4)
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _11-14.pdf
Please do not send us your application more than 28 days before you become eligible to apply. If you do, we may refuse your application with no refund of the application fee (if a fee is charged for your application type). However, you must make your application before your current permission to stay in the UK expires.

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Re: Should I go for second Tier 1 (General) Extension ?

Post by sagareva » Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:36 pm

HI numo,

applying 28 days before you qualify is not in any law or immigration rules, it is simply an operational policy concession, but one that has been around a very long time, and has been used successfully by people in your position.

many of them have done it at PEO as well.

what to do with the initial <28 days no one knows, since the rules do not mention the 28 days -- so sometimes it is counted as an absence, sometimes it isnt, but it doesnt matter. do not look for too much sense in this, it is just something that is widely accepted.

normally it is considered that if it is common knowledge that number of people do it all the time and it is routinely accepted, you have a legitimate expectation that it will also be accepted in your case

that being said, they may withdraw this guidance at any moment and stop accepting applications early you simply never know

but there is another long standing concession, which allows you to apply within 28 days since your status expires, and you would then be able to use that (although this one is worse for many reasons)

last but not least, the best solution IMHO for such a case is to apply by post on the last day of TIer 1 leave, and then stall for a couple of weeks (pay by cheque, go in for biometrics in the last few days, etc) to make sure the application is not considered until you complete 5 years.

this will be an entirely fool proof way, in-time valid application will have extended your current leave under 3C, allowing you to complete 5 years of lawful residence by the time your case is considered.

and even though all rules say they need to look at cases as of the date of the application -- and they will -- they will not be able to deny you for not completing 5 years, if you have already completed it by the time they are looking at it. this will be against case law ultimately.

but this is perhaps an unnecessary conjecture, ultimately 28 days early application just works, even though you will not find it anywhere in the immigration rules. so unless something majorly changes, you will be able to just apply at peo.

strange as it may sounds, they are not really evil. they seem to genuinely want to get rid of tier 1 general migrants by letting as many of them as possible to settle, and they are unlikely to suddenly withdraw a concession that will make it possible, especially since you would have no other avenue left then, putting you in a position where they withdraw a long-standing concession leaving you stranded would be a sucessfull JR waiting to happen, HO simply would not do it


I am not a predictor of the future of course,but all IMHO. so i say do not bother with an extra extension, in your case it will be more cost and trouble than it's worth
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