Spousal Visa Application - Pakistan (Timeline Only)

[Hamza.123]

@sajaduk @islam123

Thank you for your reply again
Ill wait the 5day's there are asking for
And @islam123 brother i hope so kassmai
I just cant wait for the visa to happen
Bring her on the next flight lol
May allah tala make it easy on us all
And grant are visa's
Ameen
And Thank You Again both you brothers

[zaidamjad]

Hi, my spouse visa has been refused today on bases of 320(11).
Can any one please help me to tell how long an appeal will take to decide ?

Hi Zaid

On what basis did they refuse under 320(11)?

Refusal under 320(11) is a discretionary ground for refusal so can be appealed against.

Yes I looked up the references before and posted the rules interpretation on my last post for OP.

In Shaa Allah I do wish them all the best and may Allah SWT give them success

Sajjad, brother thanks for you help and reply, may Allah solve all your problems you may face,
Yes she over stayed her visit visa for 2 and half year and use deception in application and use NHS service as baby was born here who is 10 years old and live with his mother, we also have an Irish born girl having Irish passport living with mother, so I decided to appeal against the decision so what are the chances as I was ready on the forum that rule 320(11) can't be turn down in appeal particularly in my wife,s case where deception and use of public funds occurred. So what are the option and any good lawyer??

[sajjaduk]

" Zaidamjad "

Sajjad, brother thanks for you help and reply, may Allah solve all your problems you may face,
Yes she over stayed her visit visa for 2 and half year and use deception in application and use NHS service as baby was born here who is 10 years old and live with his mother, we also have an Irish born girl having Irish passport living with mother, so I decided to appeal against the decision so what are the chances as I was ready on the forum that rule 320(11) can't be turn down in appeal particularly in my wife,s case where deception and use of public funds occurred. So what are the option and any good lawyer??

Because it's not a ban and only a discretionary refusal it means that there are chances to overturn the decision as long as you can put forward a good case and reasons... the barrister would be able to comment further into this. Even if you put the case across as breach of human rights as you have kids which can help the decision go in your favour.

Make sure you speak to a few lawyers as one mistake by any lawyer can lead to another refusal.

Also just thought it may be worth mentioning have you ever thort of using the surrinder Singh route eea family permit like going Ireland for a few months?? As this would make it harder for them to refuse you wife entry with the 5 year permit she could get going to Ireland for a few months. You have to show your using treaty rights in Ireland presuming your British.

I would also suggest join expat forums
It's a forum that have plenty of moderators who are specialist in legal immigration and best off all its like this forum free help and advice and also people who have had same issues would be able to guide you.

My duas are with you in Shaa Allah
May Allah SWT give you guys success

[phaara]

salams,

pls guide if anything we are lacking

List of documents
• copy of online Vaf4a application form printed & signed by applicant
• Vaf4a appendix-2 form fill by hand

Sponsor documents
1. Stamp & sign by sponsor detailed cover/introduction/ sponsorship letter to eco
2. Stamp copy of current passport
3. Birth certificate

Applicant documents
1. Letter of introduction to ECO
2. Current passport
3. 2 photographs
4. Birth certificate
5. TB test report
6. Ielts English test certificate
7. Degree qualification certificate
8. Copy of NIC card + original English translation of NIC card
9. Parents NIC card copy & English translation

Financial documents
1. 6 months bank statements
2. 6 month wage slips
3. HMRC tax recoreds
4. (Company headed paper) Employer letter sign & confirming

Accommodation
1. Property inspection report with property details
2. Mortgage papers
3. Title deeds
4. Bills
5. Council tax bills

Relationship & communication documents
1. Original Marriage certificate (urdu)
2. Original English translated marriage certificate approved union council & nadra
3. Wedding invitation card
4. Wedding and other photographs
5. wishing cards & envelops
6. Western union money receipt
7. Emails from relationship begin
8. Whats app chat log of almost a year
9. current itemized call bills
10. Visits, ticket copies, entry exit stamp passport pages.

[sajjaduk]

salams,

pls guide if anything we are lacking

List of documents
• copy of online Vaf4a application form printed & signed by applicant
• Vaf4a appendix-2 form fill by hand

Sponsor documents
1. Stamp & sign by sponsor detailed cover/introduction/ sponsorship letter to eco
2. Stamp copy of current passport
3. Birth certificate

Applicant documents
1. Letter of introduction to ECO
2. Current passport
3. 2 photographs
4. Birth certificate
5. TB test report
6. Ielts English test certificate
7. Degree qualification certificate
8. Copy of NIC card + original English translation of NIC card
9. Parents NIC card copy & English translation

Financial documents
1. 6 months bank statements
2. 6 month wage slips
3. HMRC tax recoreds
4. (Company headed paper) Employer letter sign & confirming

Accommodation
1. Property inspection report with property details
2. Mortgage papers
3. Title deeds
4. Bills
5. Council tax bills

Relationship & communication documents
1. Original Marriage certificate (urdu)
2. Original English translated marriage certificate approved union council & nadra
3. Wedding invitation card
4. Wedding and other photographs
5. wishing cards & envelops
6. Western union money receipt
7. Emails from relationship begin
8. Whats app chat log of almost a year
9. current itemized call bills
10. Visits, ticket copies, entry exit stamp passport pages.

Just read through your list
All the documents you are sending are fine
Well done ... you seem well informed

Birth certificate for sponsor is not required as their British passport is sufficient.

Also can you confirm if your partner owns the property they live in ?

[phaara]

Thank you
yes i well informed becos i m researching a lot this time
also in our previous app we submitted almost same documents and thts why eco didn't raise any objection on any of the doc listed below accept salary. so i think all these doc are fine now?? just need to fix just one mistake eco pointed out.

well yes my partner owns property

salams,

pls guide if anything we are lacking

List of documents
• copy of online Vaf4a application form printed & signed by applicant
• Vaf4a appendix-2 form fill by hand

Sponsor documents
1. Stamp & sign by sponsor detailed cover/introduction/ sponsorship letter to eco
2. Stamp copy of current passport
3. Birth certificate

Applicant documents
1. Letter of introduction to ECO
2. Current passport
3. 2 photographs
4. Birth certificate
5. TB test report
6. Ielts English test certificate
7. Degree qualification certificate
8. Copy of NIC card + original English translation of NIC card
9. Parents NIC card copy & English translation

Financial documents
1. 6 months bank statements
2. 6 month wage slips
3. HMRC tax recoreds
4. (Company headed paper) Employer letter sign & confirming

Accommodation
1. Property inspection report with property details
2. Mortgage papers
3. Title deeds
4. Bills
5. Council tax bills

Relationship & communication documents
1. Original Marriage certificate (urdu)
2. Original English translated marriage certificate approved union council & nadra
3. Wedding invitation card
4. Wedding and other photographs
5. wishing cards & envelops
6. Western union money receipt
7. Emails from relationship begin
8. Whats app chat log of almost a year
9. current itemized call bills
10. Visits, ticket copies, entry exit stamp passport pages.

Just read through your list
All the documents you are sending are fine
Well done ... you seem well informed

Birth certificate for sponsor is not required as their British passport is sufficient.

Also can you confirm if your partner owns the property they live in ?

[sajjaduk]

Mashallah really good work
In Shaa Allah you shall be successful this time round.
Will be keeping you in my duas
Don't forget to make a copy of all the documents. . Though you may already know ... so easy to let it get out of mind

Thank you
yes i well informed becos i m researching a lot this time
also in our previous app we submitted almost same documents and thts why eco didn't raise any objection on any of the doc listed below accept salary. so i think all these doc are fine now?? just need to fix just one mistake eco pointed out.

well yes my partner owns property

salams,

pls guide if anything we are lacking

List of documents
• copy of online Vaf4a application form printed & signed by applicant
• Vaf4a appendix-2 form fill by hand

Sponsor documents
1. Stamp & sign by sponsor detailed cover/introduction/ sponsorship letter to eco
2. Stamp copy of current passport
3. Birth certificate

Applicant documents
1. Letter of introduction to ECO
2. Current passport
3. 2 photographs
4. Birth certificate
5. TB test report
6. Ielts English test certificate
7. Degree qualification certificate
8. Copy of NIC card + original English translation of NIC card
9. Parents NIC card copy & English translation

Financial documents
1. 6 months bank statements
2. 6 month wage slips
3. HMRC tax recoreds
4. (Company headed paper) Employer letter sign & confirming

Accommodation
1. Property inspection report with property details
2. Mortgage papers
3. Title deeds
4. Bills
5. Council tax bills

Relationship & communication documents
1. Original Marriage certificate (urdu)
2. Original English translated marriage certificate approved union council & nadra
3. Wedding invitation card
4. Wedding and other photographs
5. wishing cards & envelops
6. Western union money receipt
7. Emails from relationship begin
8. Whats app chat log of almost a year
9. current itemized call bills
10. Visits, ticket copies, entry exit stamp passport pages.

Just read through your list
All the documents you are sending are fine
Well done ... you seem well informed

Birth certificate for sponsor is not required as their British passport is sufficient.

Also can you confirm if your partner owns the property they live in ?

[phaara]

[quote="sajjaduk"]Mashallah really good work
In Shaa Allah you shall be successful this time round.
Will be keeping you in my duas
Don't forget to make a copy of all the documents. . Though you may already know ... so easy to let it get out of mind


jazakaAllah for your dua brother

[tiger90210]

Is birth certificate necessary for spouse who is coming over from Pak

[sajjaduk]

Is birth certificate necessary for spouse who is coming over from Pak

Are you referring to theirpak birth certificate?
If so then it's not really required .. they just need to bring their pakistan I.D card

[zaidamjad]

" Zaidamjad "

Sajjad, brother thanks for you help and reply, may Allah solve all your problems you may face,
Yes she over stayed her visit visa for 2 and half year and use deception in application and use NHS service as baby was born here who is 10 years old and live with his mother, we also have an Irish born girl having Irish passport living with mother, so I decided to appeal against the decision so what are the chances as I was ready on the forum that rule 320(11) can't be turn down in appeal particularly in my wife,s case where deception and use of public funds occurred. So what are the option and any good lawyer??

Because it's not a ban and only a discretionary refusal it means that there are chances to overturn the decision as long as you can put forward a good case and reasons... the barrister would be able to comment further into this. Even if you put the case across as breach of human rights as you have kids which can help the decision go in your favour.

Make sure you speak to a few lawyers as one mistake by any lawyer can lead to another refusal.

Also just thought it may be worth mentioning have you ever thort of using the surrinder Singh route eea family permit like going Ireland for a few months?? As this would make it harder for them to refuse you wife entry with the 5 year permit she could get going to Ireland for a few months. You have to show your using treaty rights in Ireland presuming your British.

I would also suggest join expat forums
It's a forum that have plenty of moderators who are specialist in legal immigration and best off all its like this forum free help and advice and also people who have had same issues would be able to guide you.

My duas are with you in Shaa Allah
May Allah SWT give you guys success

Thanks Bro sajjad UK
I have only ILR not British nationality. Only my one child has Irish nationality other child have non EU nationalities

[sajjaduk]

Hi,
In that case I would first definitely join
http://www.expatforum.com/expats/britai ... living-uk/
A wealth of info from many people who have had similar issues so definitely someone from the legal aspect will be able to shed some light on there for you.

Also speak to a few lawyers as this can help alot.
You can get free advice by going to any community advice centre that had an immigration drop in session.
Visit oisc.gov.uk for details of local centres practicing law.

If I could ask you why haven't you applied for British citizen ship ?

" Zaidamjad "

Sajjad, brother thanks for you help and reply, may Allah solve all your problems you may face,
Yes she over stayed her visit visa for 2 and half year and use deception in application and use NHS service as baby was born here who is 10 years old and live with his mother, we also have an Irish born girl having Irish passport living with mother, so I decided to appeal against the decision so what are the chances as I was ready on the forum that rule 320(11) can't be turn down in appeal particularly in my wife,s case where deception and use of public funds occurred. So what are the option and any good lawyer??

Because it's not a ban and only a discretionary refusal it means that there are chances to overturn the decision as long as you can put forward a good case and reasons... the barrister would be able to comment further into this. Even if you put the case across as breach of human rights as you have kids which can help the decision go in your favour.

Make sure you speak to a few lawyers as one mistake by any lawyer can lead to another refusal.

Also just thought it may be worth mentioning have you ever thort of using the surrinder Singh route eea family permit like going Ireland for a few months?? As this would make it harder for them to refuse you wife entry with the 5 year permit she could get going to Ireland for a few months. You have to show your using treaty rights in Ireland presuming your British.

I would also suggest join expat forums
It's a forum that have plenty of moderators who are specialist in legal immigration and best off all its like this forum free help and advice and also people who have had same issues would be able to guide you.

My duas are with you in Shaa Allah
May Allah SWT give you guys success

Thanks Bro sajjad UK
I have only ILR not British nationality. Only my one child has Irish nationality other child have non EU nationalities

[asif_sharif]

RIGHT THATS IT

I cant wait any longer decided i am going to email them find what hell they are doing !!!

[sajjaduk]

RIGHT THATS IT

I cant wait any longer decided i am going to email them find what hell they are doing !!!

There is no harm in doing so
Though unfortunately they are lagging behind since March on processing
This could be due to alot more applications as everyone is now more aware that April is the month for rule changes esp because now there the daft health surcharge

[zoopla]

salaam all.

Going to apply this week or next week.
Just need to clear some things..

1) I understand you submit your original passport (applicant) but do you need to submit NICOP too? If so should you submit the original or an attested copy?

2) From all my reading around is it correct to say copies of applications are no longer needed.
3)Are treasury tags the best way of binding everything?
4)Is there a choice on where you can apply between or is it the closest to your home (e.g between isalamabad and lahore)? Is one faster at processing then the other?

thanks

[sajjaduk]

salaam all.

Going to apply this week or next week.
Just need to clear some things..

1) I understand you submit your original passport (applicant) but do you need to submit NICOP too? If so should you submit the original or an attested copy?

2) From all my reading around is it correct to say copies of applications are no longer needed.
3)Are treasury tags the best way of binding everything?
4)Is there a choice on where you can apply between or is it the closest to your home (e.g between isalamabad and lahore)? Is one faster at processing then the other?

thanks

To you first question ...
You need to send a copy of your Pakistani I.D Card and it doesn't need to be Attested but on the day take the original also as they would just want to take a look.

To your second question ...
You need to take a file with orginal which will be forwarded to the BHC and copies of everything for the VFC record they do this so incase something goes missing or any issues the file for reference is readily available.
Make sure you do so otherwise they will charge extortionate price at the VFC to copy everything and just causes delay on the day.

Question 3....
best not to use tags as they pull everything apart anyway to arrange in the order they need to so it's easier for the eco to go through. Just use paperclips to hold documents together.

Question 4...
You do get the option to choose where you would like to submit once you submit the online Vaf4a form but personally I think it's best to submit to nearest as if there are any issues you ain't wasting a journey.
all processing times are roughly the same as they are processed at isb bhc. They are currently meeting their within 12 weeks target and only if there are delays on checks coming back are they taking longer but this is only in a handful of cases.

Good luck

[takkari]

I have been reading but could not find an answer of this question.

Do we need to submit the Original TB Test Report of IOM?

[phaara]

I have been reading but could not find an answer of this question.

Do we need to submit the Original TB Test Report of IOM?

Yes original !!

[takkari]

I have been reading but could not find an answer of this question.

Do we need to submit the Original TB Test Report of IOM?

Yes original !!

Thanks.

Do they check the copy of this certificate at the airport?

[phaara]

to sajjad bro & all,

just heard thhat supreme court accepted to listen hearing regarding 18600 which was in pending. but don't know right now when it will hear & when the results will come. just feeling scared that if court hear n announce results in coming July ( like last year they announce in july n all the application process was delayed for so many months) this time will also delay processing application???

what u guys think.

[phaara]

I have been reading but could not find an answer of this question.

Do we need to submit the Original TB Test Report of IOM?

Yes original !!

Thanks.

Do they check the copy of this certificate at the airport?

at the airport they would like to see original valid certificate

[ab112]

to sajjad bro & all,

just heard thhat supreme court accepted to listen hearing regarding 18600 which was in pending. but don't know right now when it will hear & when the results will come. just feeling scared that if court hear n announce results in coming July ( like last year they announce in july n all the application process was delayed for so many months) this time will also delay processing application???

what u guys think.

I just saw your post. Where is the source of this information?

If true this will delay everyone's case! Last year my friends case was delayed by 1.5 years because of this!

[takkari]

at the airport they would like to see original valid certificate

But as you mentioned original needs to be sent with application?
I was told that ECO does not return any documents for visit visa.

[ab112]

at the airport they would like to see original valid certificate

But as you mentioned original needs to be sent with application?
I was told that ECO does not return any documents for visit visa.

Why did you apply for visit visa instead of spouse visa?

Can I ask what documents you provided? I am thinking about applying for visit visa too if spouse was rejected

[sajjaduk]

at the airport they would like to see original valid certificate

But as you mentioned original needs to be sent with application?
I was told that ECO does not return any documents for visit visa.

The ECO returns all the documents back to VFC with the passport once everything has been processed.
Be rest assured