Miracle

Papafaith · Post by **Papafaith** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:58 pm

I submitted the HSMP application (Out of country) for a friend on the first of November, today HSMP sent a mail that decision has been reached on the application, waiting for docs and letter. Is it that fast now? The reference number is 029***

Alagomeji · Post by **Alagomeji** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:11 pm

Hey papa, I thought you were in Nigeria? Well I definitely am soo happy for you mate.

Alagomeji · Post by **Alagomeji** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:16 pm

Ooops.... just read that you submitted for someone else. Pray tell, is there anyway to be a part of this miracle? I need to talk to you man!

try-one · Post by **try-one** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:39 pm

I can be that fast, my application was also sent 1 Nov and they responded a few weeks later asking for additional docs, so if your frien had a very good case they could have solved the application in 20 days or less...
I feel they are using new strategies to reduce the queue.

gunjans · Post by **gunjans** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:06 am

try-one wrote:

I feel they are using new strategies to reduce the queue.

I guess wat kinda new strategies they r following........
Picking some applications out of the QUEUE is neither ethical nor professional.
If they want to train new ppl then they should hand over appl which are already waiting and should come turn wise.

I guess everybody must be agree with me.......
PLEASE FLOW-IN WITH YOUR OPINION

Warm Regards.

Alagomeji · Post by **Alagomeji** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:08 am

Gunjans, being a fellow june applicant, I agree with you ABSOLUTELY!!! Why don't they pick my own case for training?

zahidhsmp · Post by **zahidhsmp** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 7:03 am

Yes you are right gunjans. The should prefer the applications in queue irrespective of any strategy that they follow.

Regards

kumar78 · Post by **kumar78** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:02 am

Papafaith, I wish we all had asked you to submit our cases too

f2k · Post by **f2k** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:05 am

the mystery continues. one just hopes that they stop this apparantely random process that they are taking and just continue with the queue.

PapaFaith could you shed a bit more light on some of the details of your friends application, maybe we might see a pattern in the cases that they have selected at 'random'

Chess · Post by **Chess** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:59 pm

Papafaith wrote:I submitted the HSMP application (Out of country) for a friend on the first of November, today HSMP sent a mail that decision has been reached on the application, waiting for docs and letter. Is it that fast now? The reference number is 029***

Are you related to the home secretary?

try-one · Post by **try-one** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:43 pm

well.....
If I was the manager for the HSMP program and I got to a situation were I had too many applications and a lot of presure then I would asign a team of senior case workers to look at the application page where the people list the claim, then they would choose those straight forward cases (for example someone claiming 150 points) give that to the trainees and then they could easily deal with it. Normal cases or cases too close to the passing mark will be dealt by a normal team....
I really don't know what is going on but some sort of strategy is beign implemented, that's for sure.....
In the meantime I will keep eating my fingernails and trying to think about something else....If I can...

f2k · Post by **f2k** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:46 am

try-one wrote:well.....
If I was the manager for the HSMP program and I got to a situation were I had too many applications and a lot of presure then I would asign a team of senior case workers to look at the application page where the people list the claim, then they would choose those straight forward cases (for example someone claiming 150 points) give that to the trainees and then they could easily deal with it. Normal cases or cases too close to the passing mark will be dealt by a normal team....
I really don't know what is going on but some sort of strategy is beign implemented, that's for sure.....
In the meantime I will keep eating my fingernails and trying to think about something else....If I can...

i dont think reallyl have a problem with the kind of selection that you suggested, the only problem is that surely there a lot of 'easier or straightforward cases' in may/june/july so they should be assigning these instead of cases recieved in november. i also have the feeling taht the HO are quite happy moving at the pace that they are moving afterall this is 'controlled' migration

Papafaith · Post by **Papafaith** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:11 pm

I really dont know what strategy they are using, i compiled my friends application like i did mine, stapling documents to each item number as proof of the point i claimed in that item. For exam, the number for qualifications( i have forgotten) Say its number 5, i staple the proof to this number before moving unto the next, i did not put all the proofs together but attavhed them to their appropriate number. Hope this helps.

Alagomeji · Post by **Alagomeji** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:11 am

F2K, I think I agree with you. I beleive these guys would rather refuse a legit case than allow a fraudulent case to go through. You guys have to realise that there is a considerable level of fraud being perpetuated through this scheme. Also, it is easier to deny a person entry from the onset than to get him out when he is already in.
Regarding the time issue, it also benefits them much more to go slowly, though at the rate at which they currently are processing, it will soon make much more sense to apply for a Canadian or Australian immigration process. One main reason why a lot of us applied for this is simply because it takes, or took a much shorter period than most others. If they now lose this edge, they will very likely lose out on the "specialists" they hope to attract. maybe we should all try Germany and the Netherlands instead?

EdgeHillMole · Post by **EdgeHillMole** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:15 pm

Regarding the time issue, it also benefits them much more to go slowly, though at the rate at which they currently are processing, it will soon make much more sense to apply for a Canadian or Australian immigration process. One main reason why a lot of us applied for this is simply because it takes, or took a much shorter period than most others.

Ever think that may be another reason why this is happening? In other words, to reduce the number of applicants, the wait is just long enough so that those who are looking to immigrate (Not necessarily to the UK) will be enticed by another country's program. With a very long wait, all that's left in the UK queue will be those who were only or mostly interested in UK immigration.

I'm not necessarily saying that this is or is not in the best interests of the UK. Just saying this could be another possible rationale for not speeding up the queue.

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