Spouse Visa for my Wife and under 18 children

[aanwar1948]

Hi Everyone,

I came to UK through Tier 1 General. Got my ILR and Citizenship respectively. I am married with 5 dependents in Pakistan, this includes my 4 children as well. I am a self employed person and earning a pre tax income of more that 30K every year.

I want to apply for my family entry clearance from Pakistan. I have collected all the documents and now I have just few questions.

1. Do I have to fill appendix 2 of VAF 4A for every applicant (including my wife and 4 children) or just one will be OK?

2. Do I need to send all the documents including original online VAF and appendix 2 to Sheffield office along with 4 photos of every applicant OR I have to send these all documents to Pakistan and they will apply from there.

3. If I send all of these docs to Sheffield then will Home Office will call the family for bio metrics in Pakistan by sending letter or they have to book an appointment. If that's the case then what docs do they need to take with them on the appointment.

4. Regarding my financial requirements; I have already submitted the tax return for 2014-2015 in April this year. Now for managed accounts does those needs to be after 6 Apr 2015 till date OR they should be for the whole of the year meaning from Dec 2014 till Nov 2015.

5. For financial documents do I need to submit the invoices as well or just managed accounts will work along with bank statements.

6. Do I need to submit the TB certificate with the application or do they need it for just travelling purpose.

7. If successful, will they be issued with a a visa in their passports or BRP? If BRP, then will they get that in Pakistan or in UK.

8. For many years, I have been communicating with my family over WhatsApp, Viber and Skype and there is no call record for all of these apps, as batleykhan in his guidance notes, suggests that phone cards etc must be attached.

I will really appreciate some member advising me about all of these.

Thanks,

[Petaltop]

Read the overview here and follow their guidance
https://www.gov.uk/join-family-in-uk/overview

and make sure you read all the financial requirements for everything a self employed person must provide here
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... t_2015.pdf

Note that for self employed sponsors they work on full tax years and you must have paid your tax on that year to sponsor, even if it is earlier than you would have to do for HMRC. UKVI will check you have paid your tax.

Each applicant will need their own visa application and all will have to pay their own visa fee of £956 and Immigration Health Surchange of £600 each.

[Casa]

Before your questions are answered, are you aware that the minimum income level required when applying for your wife + 4 children will be £29,600 per annum. Although you have said that you are earning more than £30,000, as this is income from self-employment the qualifying figure will be the amount on which HMRC will calculate tax due. i.e after all allowable business expenses have been deducted, not gross income.

[Petaltop]

Before your questions are answered, are you aware that the minimum income level required when applying for your wife + 4 children will be £29,600 per annum.

I make it £28,200.

£2.400 x 4 = = £9,600.
Plus 18,600 for the spouse
= £28,200

It still needs to be the amount declared to HMRC to be taxed on, as you rightly said.

Were any of the children born in the UK?

[Casa]

@petaltop Although maths isn't my best attribute, I believe I'm correct at the first child isn't calculated @ £2.400. See below:

An additional gross annual income of £3,800 is required for the first child sponsored in
addition to the Partner and an additional £2,400 for each further child. The level of the
financial requirement will therefore be for example:
 Partner with no children – £18,600.
 1 child in addition to the partner – £22,400.
 2 children in addition to the partner – £24,800.
 3 children in addition to the partner – £27,200.

I simply added a further £2,400 to £27,200 the fee for 3 children in addition to partner. = £29,600 for partner + 4 children

[Petaltop]

@petaltop Although maths isn't my best attribute, I believe I'm correct at the first child isn't calculated @ £2.400. See below:

An additional gross annual income of £3,800 is required for the first child sponsored in
addition to the Partner and an additional £2,400 for each further child. The level of the
financial requirement will therefore be for example:
 Partner with no children – £18,600.
 1 child in addition to the partner – £22,400.
 2 children in addition to the partner – £24,800.
 3 children in addition to the partner – £27,200.

I simply added a further £2,400 to £27,200 the fee for 3 children in addition to partner. = £29,600 for partner + 4 children

You are correct. I apologise It was even on the link I gave!


£18,600 per year if you’re applying only for yourself
£22,400 per year for you and one child
£2,400 per year for each additional child

[aanwar1948]

Before your questions are answered, are you aware that the minimum income level required when applying for your wife + 4 children will be £29,600 per annum.

I make it £28,200.

£2.400 x 4 = = £9,600.
Plus 18,600 for the spouse
= £28,200

It still needs to be the amount declared to HMRC to be taxed on, as you rightly said.

Were any of the children born in the UK?

None of the child is born in UK.
can you be kind enough in replying to my questions 1 by 1. As other than financial requirements the system it self looks very confusing for me.

[Wanderer]

Each applicant will need their own visa application and all will have to pay their own visa fee of £956 and Immigration Health Surchange of £600 each.

Wow! £7780!!

Isn't the surcharge £500 though?

[physicskate]

Each applicant will need their own visa application and all will have to pay their own visa fee of £956 and Immigration Health Surchange of £600 each.

Wow! £7780!!

Isn't the surcharge £500 though?

That's for FLR(M) because that visa is valid for two and a half years. VAF4a is for 33 months (closer to three years) so it's £600 IHS...

[Wanderer]

Each applicant will need their own visa application and all will have to pay their own visa fee of £956 and Immigration Health Surchange of £600 each.

Wow! £7780!!

Isn't the surcharge £500 though?

That's for FLR(M) because that visa is valid for two and a half years. VAF4a is for 33 months (closer to three years) so it's £600 IHS...

I just can't get this in my head and I know it's easy!! Cheers!

[aanwar1948]

I am really happy that everyone is taking interest in the post and calculations...

But my initial question list is still unanswered.

Can anyone please tell me the correct procedure of applying for Spouse visa, after gathering all the documents and arranging fees etc...I am very very confused.

Need a help here...

[physicskate]

I am really happy that everyone is taking interest in the post and calculations...

But my initial question list is still unanswered.

Can anyone please tell me the correct procedure of applying for Spouse visa, after gathering all the documents and arranging fees etc...I am very very confused.

Need a help here...

Your spouse is the applicant, so she will need to submit the application. It is an online form:

https://www.gov.uk/join-family-in-uk/apply

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... form-vaf4a

Don't forget to include appendix 2. She will be given instructions how to submit the application's documentation in the online instructions. I am not overly familiar with the process from Pakistan...

[Wanderer]

Hi Everyone,

I came to UK through Tier 1 General. Got my ILR and Citizenship respectively. I am married with 5 dependents in Pakistan, this includes my 4 children as well. I am a self employed person and earning a pre tax income of more that 30K every year.

I want to apply for my family entry clearance from Pakistan. I have collected all the documents and now I have just few questions.

1. Do I have to fill appendix 2 of VAF 4A for every applicant (including my wife and 4 children) or just one will be OK?

2. Do I need to send all the documents including original online VAF and appendix 2 to Sheffield office along with 4 photos of every applicant OR I have to send these all documents to Pakistan and they will apply from there.

3. If I send all of these docs to Sheffield then will Home Office will call the family for bio metrics in Pakistan by sending letter or they have to book an appointment. If that's the case then what docs do they need to take with them on the appointment.

4. Regarding my financial requirements; I have already submitted the tax return for 2014-2015 in April this year. Now for managed accounts does those needs to be after 6 Apr 2015 till date OR they should be for the whole of the year meaning from Dec 2014 till Nov 2015.

5. For financial documents do I need to submit the invoices as well or just managed accounts will work along with bank statements.

6. Do I need to submit the TB certificate with the application or do they need it for just travelling purpose.

7. If successful, will they be issued with a a visa in their passports or BRP? If BRP, then will they get that in Pakistan or in UK.

8. For many years, I have been communicating with my family over WhatsApp, Viber and Skype and there is no call record for all of these apps, as batleykhan in his guidance notes, suggests that phone cards etc must be attached.

I will really appreciate some member advising me about all of these.

Thanks,

1. One form each
2. Apply from Pak.
3. See above.
4. Dunno.
5. Supply as much as you can.
6. Yes.
7. BRP in Pak I think, wait for others.
8. Dunno.

You do come across as you are demanding answers, I think that's whats putting people off.

[Petaltop]

1. One form each
2. Apply from Pak.
3. See above.
4. Dunno.
5. Supply as much as you can.
6. Yes.
7. BRP in Pak I think, wait for others.
8. Dunno.

You do come across as you are demanding answers, I think that's whats putting people off.

4. It is cleary written on the link I gave above. It's important the OP reads that to ensure they don't miss anything as sponsoring as self employed is very strict with what they must do and provide.

7. BRP in the UK. They get a 30 day entry visa in their passports and during that 30 days they enter the UK and must collect their BRPs within 10 days of arriving in the UK. It's all clearly written here
https://www.gov.uk/biometric-residence-permits/need-brp

aanwar1948 is there any reason why you don't want to read the links that answers most of your questions?

[Casa]

For spouse applications from Pakistan, the documents should be sent to Sheffield. Are you confident that you can show income of £29,600 per annum in your accounts after all your declared business expenses have been deducted? £8000+ is a considerable amount to lose if the application is refused due to finance.

[Casa]

You're requesting answers to your questions by posting a link to this thread in another member's thread. What answers are you still waiting for? You haven't yet answered my last post.

[TheWisdom]

could anybody give the answer of the questions, for example the question below

1. Do I have to fill appendix 2 of VAF 4A for every applicant (including my wife and 4 children) or just one will be OK?

I'm also looking for answer of this question.
Any knowledge?

[Wanderer]

could anybody give the answer of the questions, for example the question below

1. Do I have to fill appendix 2 of VAF 4A for every applicant (including my wife and 4 children) or just one will be OK?

I'm also looking for answer of this question.
Any knowledge?

One each.