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Name change after naturalisation but before passport

Post by Saga » Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:59 am

Hello all,

I want to change the spellings of my child. He is already naturalised British citizen but has not applied the british passport yet.

Will it cause any issues if I just change the name using deed poll and attach the proof with the naturalisation letter (having old name) for British passport application ?

Thanks

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Re: Name change after naturalisation but before passport

Post by geriatrix » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:33 am

Minor do not naturalise, adults do.
Does the child hold another passport that remains uncancelled / valid?
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Re: Name change after naturalisation but before passport

Post by Saga » Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:05 pm

Sorry I meant citizenship. He was a Tier-1 dependent before but got the citizenship certificate after parent got ILR, as he was born in UK.

Yes he does have another valid passport with older name. Does that affect the process?

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Re: Name change after naturalisation but before passport

Post by Saga » Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:14 pm

Guess I have two options:-

1. Name change through deed poll --> New additional passport --> New British passport with older name in the citizenship certificate

2. British passport with older name --> Name change through deed poll --> New British passport

Which is better ?

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Re: Name change after naturalisation but before passport

Post by CR001 » Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:16 pm

Option 2 would be the better option.
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Re: Name change after naturalisation but before passport

Post by the_seeker » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:20 am

I am in a similar position.

My child was born in UK and took my first name as the surname. All documents -> UK Birth Certificate, Indian passport, and registration certificate (naturalisation) in this name.

Then I did a Deed Poll for to change surname to the family name.

Applied for UK passport online with new name, and provided the deed poll as evidence - but I have been told a UK passport CANNOT be issued in the new name. This is because UK will NOT issue a passport in new name while the Indian passport is in old name. They were quite strong in advocating this, I spoke to two levels above the person who typically answers the Passport Advice Line.

They have advised me to get my child's Indian passport cancelled first, so the sequence of events will be
Registration (Naturalisation) DONE -> Name Change (via Deed Poll) DONE -> Surrender Indian Passport -> Apply for UK PP in new name

Does this seem logical, moderators? Typically I see on the forum, people get UK PP and then go for surrendering the home passport.

I have no issues surrendering the passport (I have to do it anyway for OCI) but paranoid about leaving child without a passport if they spring any new things on me after surrender (Indian cancelled and UK not issued).

Your thoughts, please?

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Re: Name change after naturalisation but before passport

Post by noajthan » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:04 pm

the_seeker wrote:I am in a similar position.

My child was born in UK and took my first name as the surname. All documents -> UK Birth Certificate, Indian passport, and registration certificate (naturalisation) in this name.

Then I did a Deed Poll for to change surname to the family name.

Applied for UK passport online with new name, and provided the deed poll as evidence - but I have been told a UK passport CANNOT be issued in the new name. This is because UK will NOT issue a passport in new name while the Indian passport is in old name. They were quite strong in advocating this, I spoke to two levels above the person who typically answers the Passport Advice Line.

They have advised me to get my child's Indian passport cancelled first

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Does this seem logical, moderators? Typically I see on the forum, people get UK PP and then go for surrendering the home passport.

I have no issues surrendering the passport (I have to do it anyway for OCI) but paranoid about leaving child without a passport if they spring any new things on me after surrender (Indian cancelled and UK not issued).

Your thoughts, please?
Similar scenarios discussed here, including some Indian cases:
british-citizenship/passport-refused-un ... n#p1286025
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Re: Name change after naturalisation but before passport

Post by geriatrix » Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:40 pm

the_seeker wrote:They have advised me to get my child's Indian passport cancelled first, so the sequence of events will be
Registration (Naturalisation) DONE -> Name Change (via Deed Poll) DONE -> Surrender Indian Passport -> Apply for UK PP in new name
Without a British passport, the Indian passport will not be cancelled.

The least cumbersome, though expensive by £75, process:
1. Get British passport in the same name as Indian passport.
2. Surrender Indian passport.
3. Apply for new British passport under the new name.
4. Apply for OCI under new name, include both (old name and new name) British passports and deed poll.
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Re: Name change after naturalisation but before passport

Post by the_seeker » Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:34 pm

I placed that request already. But they are not ready to issue passport in old name as well, because they have the Deed Poll and they won't issue in any name other than the new one. They want us to get it changed in the Indian Passport but I have made it clear to them as the child is already registered British, the only change Indian Embassy will make on the Indian Passport is to cut the corner and stamp it cancelled.

The HMPO lady has gone back to seek advice from her manager.

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Re: Name change after naturalisation but before passport

Post by geriatrix » Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:24 pm

the_seeker wrote:the only change Indian Embassy will make on the Indian Passport is to cut the corner and stamp it cancelled.
And that too only after a British passport is issued.

Bring to their kind attention clause 6.1 and 6.3 of their own (HO published) document titled "Indian Citizenship Law" (Chapter 14 -> Annex H).
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Re: Name change after naturalisation but before passport

Post by aneil » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:30 pm

Thanks for pointing it out.

I'm exactly in same position, only difference being my daughter born in India

http://www.immigrationboards.com/britis ... l#p1289395

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Re: Name change after naturalisation but before passport

Post by the_seeker » Sat Jan 09, 2016 2:28 pm

Thanks sushdmehta for fishing that out.
The lady came back to me and said they are referring this to their policy team, no timescales provided.

I have quoted the info you provided in an email to them.

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