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Irish government accused over migrants-New report

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yankeegirl
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Irish government accused over migrants-New report

Post by yankeegirl » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:43 pm

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaki ... king53.htm
The Government was today accused of promoting contradicting policies over the issue of undocumented migrants.

While ministers lobby for citizenship for 50,000 Irish people in the US, the Migrants Rights Centre of Ireland (MRCI) claimed people in the same position here were being told to leave the country.
All I can say is that it's about time someone pointed out this glaring hypocrisy. Not that much will come of it though...

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Post by Dawie » Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:13 pm

Rich 1st world countries often display glaring hypocrisy when it comes to the treatment of immigrants in their own countries, and the treatment of their own illegal immigrant citizens in other countries.

The treatment of American citizens living in the Czech republic is a case in point:

http://www.radio.cz/en/article/98552
When the Czech Republic enters the Schengen zone on December 21, it will bring in an era of passport-free travel for Czechs abroad. But not everyone is looking forward to the change. Entry to the Schengen zone could spell trouble for the sizeable number of Americans who have, up until now, been living and working in Prague without a visa.
I don't think anyone in the Czech Republic will be shedding a tear for these Americans who obviously think immigration rules don't apply to them.

The way America treats illegal immigrants on its own territory means that no country is ever going to have any sympathy for American citizens who are illegaly in their country.
In a few years time we'll look back on immigration control like we look back on American prohibition in the thirties - futile and counter-productive.

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Post by yankeegirl » Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:48 pm

Dawie I totally agree. I've got a bit of empathy regarding undocumented immigrants, regardless of where they're from. I think that's what irks me a bit about the Irish situation. As far as the US goes, I'd prefer amnesty for all of them, not to pick and choose which classes of people get to stay. I know this probably is going to come out sounding harsh, and I don't mean it to, but if the Irish were to get deported from the US, they are coming back to a country much better than it was years ago. A much different scenario than those that have fled war-torn, oppressive, poor and unstable countries that the Irish seek to deport from Ireland. Same with the US.

I had an interesting (and frustrating) conversation with a taxi driver here a few weeks ago. He had overstayed his visa waiver in the US and lived there for 6 or 7 years before coming back to Northern Ireland. He came home on his own because he didn't want to risk getting caught by INS with immigration becoming a hot-button issue over there. He went on and on about how the US government should give amnesty to the undocumented Irish because "We built this country". He also seemed to resent to being "lumped together" with other classes of immigrants, namely Latin Americans. He had only been back a couple of weeks and already was working for a taxi company. I pointed out to him that he was lucky he had a place to come back to where he could get a car and a job and all that right away, and that other people wouldn't be so fortunate and he still insisted that the Irish should get special treatment. Oh, and he complained about the increasing number of immigrants here in the North :roll:

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Post by archigabe » Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:44 pm

I felt a little bit of sympathy for the illegal Irish after watching In America,but after reading stories of Deportation flightstaking people away from Ireland in shackles, I don't see why any Irishman/woman willingly breaking the law in the U.S should not be deported.They don't have any more god given right to the U.S than, say a kenyan in Ireland, President Kennedy notwithstanding!
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Post by room1102 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:52 pm

yankeegirl wrote:Dawie I totally agree. I've got a bit of empathy regarding undocumented immigrants, regardless of where they're from. I think that's what irks me a bit about the Irish situation. As far as the US goes, I'd prefer amnesty for all of them, not to pick and choose which classes of people get to stay. I know this probably is going to come out sounding harsh, and I don't mean it to, but if the Irish were to get deported from the US, they are coming back to a country much better than it was years ago. A much different scenario than those that have fled war-torn, oppressive, poor and unstable countries that the Irish seek to deport from Ireland. Same with the US.

I had an interesting (and frustrating) conversation with a taxi driver here a few weeks ago. He had overstayed his visa waiver in the US and lived there for 6 or 7 years before coming back to Northern Ireland. He came home on his own because he didn't want to risk getting caught by INS with immigration becoming a hot-button issue over there. He went on and on about how the US government should give amnesty to the undocumented Irish because "We built this country". He also seemed to resent to being "lumped together" with other classes of immigrants, namely Latin Americans. He had only been back a couple of weeks and already was working for a taxi company. I pointed out to him that he was lucky he had a place to come back to where he could get a car and a job and all that right away, and that other people wouldn't be so fortunate and he still insisted that the Irish should get special treatment. Oh, and he complained about the increasing number of immigrants here in the North :roll:
irish should get special treatment in usa? what about the poor hispanic working on some jobs that most americans dont want to do? chinese built the railway for the americans? so is he saying those people working there are not people. thats pretty bad. yes, if the irish done so much in states. why dont they just use us dollars instead of the euro???? i think they dont deserve anything because the way they treating the legal migrants in ireland itself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if they want people to respect them, they should respect other people as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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