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Visa for married UK & Non-EU on temporary UK admission

Post by howard » Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:36 pm

Hi there sorry if discussed before but I cannot find a case similar to ours and every lawyer we call gives us a different story which I'm sure is in their benefit to drag out the case and get the max for us in fees.

I am a UK born national and my wife (we married yesterday in UK registry office) is a Sri Lankan national.

My wife's current status is 'temporary admission to remain in UK' but it's also worded as 'person without leave who has been served with a notice of liability to removal'. She has an ARC card and can work if the job is on the UKBA shortlist but cannot run a nuclear power plant or anything else on that list so does not work.

She is currently in the process of seeking Asylum (no interview or case heard in about 2 years) and was previously allowed to enter the UK on a student visa but because she was found to be working a few hours over the weekly limit this was retracted on a technical breach of conditions (i.e. it was not a regular occurrence and happened only a couple of times). Signing-in happens monthly, she has never claimed any benefits.

When we gave notice to marry HO replied within 2 days and said we could marry within 28 days notice period and no investigation as to the genuineness of our relationship would be considered unless we applied for a visa. (Every lawyer we spoke to said we would be refused to marry even after an investigation due to her temporary UK status, so they either lied or we just got lucky)

We have been living together for 7 months.

So now that we are married we are looking to make a new application and this is where it gets confusing.

Originally we thought we were going to apply for a 5 year route Spouse/Partner/ Family Visa as most posts talk about the 5yr route but on .gov website it says:
If you’re in the UK on temporary admission or release (you don’t have a visa) you can only apply in a 10-year route
So I assume if we apply for the usual 5year route this will be denied and we would then have to apply again under the 10year route. Is that correct?

10 year route application seems to have less restrictions i.e. the annual salary required by me to earn doesn't need to be met or declared (I earn well over the threshold anyway and own my own mortgaged property with equity).

Notes for the 10yr visa state that one of the grounds for the visa application to be refused are if there has been a previous breach of visa conditions, which effectively has taken place. It's not a mandatory refusal but seems to be high up the list for someone to stamp refused on the application.

If a 10yr visa is likely to be refused and 5yr seems to be out of the question what visa application should we be applying for? Are there any other options?

Thanks in advance for any guidance as right now we are lost as to which route to take.

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Re: Visa for married UK & Non-EU on temporary UK admission

Post by Casa » Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:03 pm

Your marriage doesn't enable her to apply for settlement from within the UK. Assuming you meet all the requirements, minimum income level etc, she should return to her home country and apply for a Spouse Settlement visa to re-enter. Any other route would be a long and bumpy one, without any guarantee of success.
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Re: Visa for married UK & Non-EU on temporary UK admission

Post by howard » Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:21 pm

Casa wrote:Your marriage doesn't enable her to apply for settlement from within the UK. Assuming you meet all the requirements, minimum income level etc, she should return to her home country and apply for a Spouse Settlement visa to re-enter. Any other route would be a long and bumpy one, without any guarantee of success.
Thanks for replying Casa.

So you're saying that applying for a Spouse Visa if she returned to home country would be guaranteed as we do meet the requirements?

Also, how long does that process/application usually take?

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Re: Visa for married UK & Non-EU on temporary UK admission

Post by Casa » Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:29 pm

No visa application is ever 'guaranteed'. However, as long as the previous work outside of her permitted hours isn't an issue, she shouldn't be refused a spouse visa application. You must ensure that you meet all the requirements in the VAF4a application.
The processing time may take around 3 months.
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Re: Visa for married UK & Non-EU on temporary UK admission

Post by howard » Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:44 pm

Casa wrote:Your marriage doesn't enable her to apply for settlement from within the UK. Assuming you meet all the requirements, minimum income level etc, she should return to her home country and apply for a Spouse Settlement visa to re-enter. Any other route would be a long and bumpy one, without any guarantee of success.

Thanks again for taking the time to reply Casa.

However I'm really confused now as I just saw this post from you around 2 weeks ago:
http://www.immigrationboards.com/immigr ... l#p1322982

On there you said that without settled status they should attempt to get married and once the marriage has taken place apply for FLR(M).

How are the cases different and why did you state there is only a 5 year route when there is also the 10 year route? If we did attempt the 10 year route does that not then lead to permanent settlement (ILR)?

My wife is scared to return home if there is any chance we cannot be together or for her to return to UK. It is also not safe for her back home, hence the asylum application in the first case.

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Re: Visa for married UK & Non-EU on temporary UK admission

Post by CR001 » Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:53 pm

FLR(M) is a 5 years route.

Casa has advised FLR(FP) Partner route and that is a 10 year route to ILR/Settled status.
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Re: Visa for married UK & Non-EU on temporary UK admission

Post by Casa » Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:57 pm

Your wife is in a different situation as she has been issued with a removal notice and is intending to apply for asylum. In the thread you are referring to, the student is awaiting a decision on his appeal and section 3c is still engaged. However note that CR001 also advised in the same thread:
"He would then have to apply for a spouse visa (FLR M), which is likely to be difficult given he is currently sitting in the appeal system."
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Re: Visa for married UK & Non-EU on temporary UK admission

Post by howard » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:27 pm

Thanks for your quick response. You and all moderators on this forum are amazing in the help provided.

I just looked through the application form for FLR(FP) and it states we have to supply 2 years of joint address letters SINCE we have been married.

I notice that the application form is dated 18th March 2016 (about two weeks ago) so some requirements may have changed since the last version of the form and HO said they allow us to proceed with our marriage.

We only got married yesterday so does that mean we cannot make this application FLR(FP) for another two years?

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Re: Visa for married UK & Non-EU on temporary UK admission

Post by Casa » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:33 pm

Don't worry. The 2 years proof of joint address is for those applying either for an extension of a previous spouse visa or as unmarried partners. You should however, submit evidence that you are now living together.
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