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FLR(M) Help and Questions

Post by Sutops » Mon May 30, 2016 12:01 pm

Dear experts

I recently (April 2016) received my ILR through 10-yr residency. Before that I was of Tier 2 General. My wife will be eligible for ILR (also through the 10-yr) route next year (October '17). She has then to switch from Tier 2 dependant to FLR(M).

Just to ask a quick confirmation... for her FLR(M) application she needs to take A1 english test , doesn't she? She has no qualification from UK univ. and we are not from countries where the english requirement is exempted.

Thanks very much in advance for your kind help & confirmation.

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Re: English Test requirements for FLR (M)

Post by CR001 » Mon May 30, 2016 12:18 pm

Yes, she needs English A1 from one of the HO approved test providers. October it changes to A2.
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English Test requirements for FLR (M) & ILR (Spousal Visa)

Post by Casa » Mon May 30, 2016 12:18 pm

Yes, your wife will require A1 level English. For anyone applying for FLR(M) after October 2016, A2 level will be required. Here's updated list of approved tests/test providers.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... ebsite.pdf
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How big House/accommodation you need to show for Spouse visa

Post by Sutops » Mon May 30, 2016 12:32 pm

Dear experts

I have tried to read the accommodation requirement guides for FLR(M) , but I am afraid I might misunderstand the complex and tedious rules so your comments/ experience sharing is greatly appreciated.

We rent a 2 bedroom house, the occupants are myself, my wife and 2 children: 11 and 4 years old. The house has 1 living room, 1 Spam and 1 bathroom.

Do we meet the accommodation requirement for FLR(M) application? My understanding to the rules are there 3.5 people in the house, so at least there must be 3 bedrooms in the house. What I am still unsure up to now is whether the living room can be counted as a proper room.

Also is letting agreement sufficient as the proof of accomodation?

Thanks in advance for your comments & help.

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Re: How big House/accommodation you need to show for Spouse

Post by Casa » Mon May 30, 2016 12:42 pm

The living room can be counted as a bedroom. The letting agreement should be sufficient to prove your tenancy.
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Re: FLR(M) Help and Questions

Post by CR001 » Mon May 30, 2016 1:06 pm

@ Sutops, can you please stop digging up old threads and posting your different questions on the same application tagged onto other topics.

See Mutliple Posts (click).

I have merged your questions and responses into a single topic, please continue in this thread.
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Re: FLR(M) Help and Questions

Post by Sutops » Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:45 am

Dear Admins, thanks for collating my queries and opening a new thread for my further questions. I have tons of questions on FLR(M) - I've been doing our Tier & PBS dependant visas, but FLR(M) to me is very complicated. With poor & unstructured documented guidelines completing FLR(M) is utterly confusing for me.

As my wife is only less than 2 years away from her 10-yr long residency ILR, can she go straight taking the B1 level english test? As far as I know B1 level english test is required for ILR for someone with no UK university degree, and the test result is valid for 2 years. This way will save us some costs, as she doesn't take the test twice (first taking A1 test for FLR and later B1 for her ILR).

Thanks in advance for your comments & help.

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Re: FLR(M) Help and Questions

Post by Casa » Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:10 pm

As your wife will need A2 level English from October 2016 for FLR(M), it would make sense to take a B1 level test which under current rules will be accepted for ILR.
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Re: FLR(M) Help and Questions

Post by Sutops » Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:26 pm

Dear experts

I have several questions on Section 2 of the form that you might be able to help or share your experience

1. I am confused the difference between 'spouse' and 'civil partner' - this is related to question 2.1 of the form. Does my wife fall into category of 'spouse' or 'civil partner'?

2. Question 2.2 - very confused with the question. My wife has always applied visa extensions together with me, i.e. Tier 4, Tier 1 PSW, Tier 2, back since 2009. should we tick 'yes' or 'no' for this question?

3. Question 2.3. - There are 6 options in the quetsion but I am very unsure which one meets my wife's situation. The purpose of applying FLR(M) visa is to allow my wife to go to her 10-yr LR date next year. Therefore should we tick the option “You require FLR to obtain the relevant qualifications to meet the KoLL requirements to apply for ILR” or other other option? Or do we miss something here?

Thank you very much in advance for your kind help & comments, as always.

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Re: FLR(M) Help and Questions

Post by CR001 » Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:30 pm

1. She is your SPOUSE. Civil partner is safe sex marriage.

2. It is 'Yes' i she has not had an FLR(M) application before. The list above 2.2 does not state 'PBS' does it?

3. It is the first box - first period of leave to remain as spouse of person settled.
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Re: FLR(M) Help and Questions

Post by Casa » Wed Jun 08, 2016 4:57 pm

I think CR001 intended to write 'same sex marriage'. :wink:
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Re: FLR(M) Help and Questions

Post by CR001 » Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:19 pm

Casa wrote:I think CR001 intended to write 'same sex marriage'. :wink:
Indeed :oops:
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Re: FLR(M) Help and Questions

Post by Sutops » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:26 pm

Dear Casa, CR001 and experts, thank you very much for your comments. More confusing questions in next sections....

Section 4:
Confused about section 4- dependent children. We have two children: one was born outside UK and the youngest one was born here in UK. For this FLR, my wife will apply with my eldest daughter. We're also now applying registration (MN1) for our youngest son.
Should we include our youngest child in the second column (Child 2) in the table of question 4.4? If the answer is 'no' then we should put the details of our youngest child, including the statement that we're now applying registration for him, in the 'details' box of question 4.6, shouldn't we?

Section 5:
Does question 5.2 refer to the first time my wife entered UK? (she has been in & out to/from UK several times for the last 9 years)

Thank you in advance for your helps.

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Re: FLR(M) Help and Questions

Post by Sutops » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:33 am

Dear experts, I am very confused with questions Section 7 of the form if you can help or share your experience/expertise...

1. In question 7.2 - Although we have 2 children only one child is included in this FLR application (the other child, as he was born in UK, will be registered as British citizen) . Therefore my wife should tick 'applying with one dependant, shouldn't she?

2. My wife is a housewife, and the family income comes from my employment. Assuming we can select 'applying with one dependant' in question 7.2, my gross annual wage is above the threshold. We both also have savings but the amount is much less than the limit set in section 7.3E (£16k). Should we also include savings to meet the financial requirement? If we should then should we tick category E box in question 7.3 and complete question 7.3E?

3. Unclear about question (vii) in the table of question 7.3A (income from salaried employment): 12 months prior to this application I was already in my current employment. Should I put the date of my previous employment – which has ended more than 3 years ago?

3. For section 7.3A- I have been working in my current employment from Feb 2013 until now. Should I leave blank for question (viii) in the table at question 7.3A? Or in other words : is question (viii) relate to question (vii)?

4. In relation to above question – for question (xiii) of the same table – should I mention my job title in my previous employment – which, once again, has finished more than 3 years ago?

5. Is the box at the end of question 7.3 (Total amount) for the sum of my annual salary+our savings?

Thanks in advance for your help (for me this form definitely needs to be redesigned - the logical flow in filling out this document is not clear...)

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FLR(M) Section 7B maintenance

Post by Sutops » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:35 pm

Dear experts...I need your experience/expertise immediately. My wife will apply FLR(M) as I recently received my ILR on April. We are confused with the instruction of Section 7B (Maintenance) in FLR(M) form.

She's not qualified for an exemption from meeting the income threshold element of the financial requirement. Her last leave to remain is Tier 2 PBS dependent granted on March this year. This is her first FLR(M) application. Does this mean that she doesn't have to complete Section 7B?

My annual income is above the £22,400 requirement (she'll apply with my daughter), and I can provide employment letter for the evidence.

Sorry for this silly query...but we just want to make sure that we don't misunderstand the instruction. Your prompt reply/response is greatly appreciated.

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Re: FLR(M) Section 7B maintenance

Post by Casa » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:56 pm

You will need to provide more than just an employer's letter. The last 6 months of payslips are required, with corresponding bank statements covering the same period.
However, you are required to complete 7B maintenance.
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Re: FLR(M) Help and Questions

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