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Non EEA supporting documents for Permanent Residence card

Post by camilla25 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:33 am

Hi all, I have a little bit of a problem, I applied for a permanent residents card last year in September I got a refusal letter in feb stating that I didn't qualify for a permanent residence because my husband had not proved that he was excising treaty right for the period of two years that is 2011-2012. when applying we sent three passports my husbands, my daughters marriage certificate, Working tax credit letters both in our names, my payslips, my husbands, my bank statements council tax bills. when sending the application my husband ordered NI contribution letter from HMR which we sent with other documents showing when my husband was working but for the caseworker to say that he wasn't excising his rights blew us away I guess he never even bothered to check. Now the question is what are the right documents to send to HO because we have sent again another application with my husbands bank statements, NI contribution, employment history , marriage certificate, two birth certificate for our both kids, council tax bills HMR letters showing both our names at the same address. so my question is did I also needed to send my own payslips, bank statements? I'm really scared because I didn't sent them because we thought that they just wanted my husband to prove his right of residency and if I was to send them would they be of use because we sent off my second application in march I already got the letter that confirms right to work.
PLEASE ANY ADVICE IS HIGHLY APPRICIATED.

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Re: Non EEA supporting documents for Permanent Residence car

Post by noajthan » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:43 am

camilla25 wrote:Hi all, I have a little bit of a problem, I applied for a permanent residents card last year in September I got a refusal letter in feb stating that I didn't qualify for a permanent residence because my husband had not proved that he was excising treaty right for the period of two years that is 2011-2012. when applying we sent three passports my husbands, my daughters marriage certificate, Working tax credit letters both in our names, my payslips, my husbands, my bank statements council tax bills. when sending the application my husband ordered NI contribution letter from HMR which we sent with other documents showing when my husband was working but for the caseworker to say that he wasn't excising his rights blew us away I guess he never even bothered to check. Now the question is what are the right documents to send to HO because we have sent again another application with my husbands bank statements, NI contribution, employment history , marriage certificate, two birth certificate for our both kids, council tax bills HMR letters showing both our names at the same address. so my question is did I also needed to send my own payslips, bank statements? I'm really scared because I didn't sent them because we thought that they just wanted my husband to prove his right of residency and if I was to send them would they be of use because we sent off my second application in march I already got the letter that confirms right to work.
PLEASE ANY ADVICE IS HIGHLY APPRICIATED.
More information required.

Who is the EEA national?
Who is the non-EEA national?

When did you both arrive in UK?
Have you enjoyed any prolonged absences from UK since then?

How long have you been married?

What is the timeline and activities of the EEA national (sponsor) in UK?
Is sponsor an A8 national?

How does daughter fit into the picture? What is her marriage certificate for?

You mention sending 3 passports the first time, is that for one child?
But then you later mention 2 children?!

Who are the other dependents on the application? children?
- how old?
- are they EEA or non-EEA nationals?
how long have they lived in UK?
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Re: Non EEA supporting documents for Permanent Residence car

Post by camilla25 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:24 am

Hi noajthan, thanks so much for your reply, my husband is an EEA from Sweden he came here in 2001 he went to university and after that he has been working till to date.

on 11 January 2010 we got married from my home country the non EEA and I came to London in march 2010.

I had my residence card for 5 years which expired last year in October.

on 4th of march 2011, I had our first daughter now we just had a second baby which is just 4 months old so when I said that we sent three passports I meant my husband the EEA , my daughters British passport and my own one the NON EEA applying.

Non of my family are applying with me it's just the supporting documents that we had sent to the HO. Neither my husband or I have been away for more than 2 months the last time we were away was in 2011 for a very short holiday just a month and since then we haven't been any where.

I have been employed since I came to this country so I do have payslips and bank statement to show but we were not sure what to send because when they sent back my documents with the refusal letter they stated that they wanted my husbands payslips and bank statement to show that he has been excising treaty rights, I guess they had not considered the non EEA bank statements and payslips at all .

so my question is did I have to send the non EEA bank statement or payslips to show my residency or does my husbands Bank statements payslips, NI contribution letter, employment history, employment letters, marriage certificate council tax bills, HMR letters our children's birth certificate enough?

THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR REPLY
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Re: Non EEA supporting documents for Permanent Residence car

Post by camilla25 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:14 pm

Could someone please advise me on what do next as motioned earlier I've already sent my second application with the prove of my husbands treaty rights being that he is my sponsor. now my question is:
Can I send more prove of my residency? and if so what kind of documents are they?
I had prepared my bank statement, my payslips, my two children's record books, NHS cards, my employment letters, my daughters school report, and other NHS letters from the hospital.
Should I write to my caseworker and send them because I have got the reference number.
PLEASE HELP IS MUCH APPRECIATED FEEL FREE TO COMMENT.THANK YOU

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Re: Non EEA supporting documents for Permanent Residence car

Post by camilla25 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:35 pm

Here is my timeline
Application sent on 4/03/16 with postal order
Received on 6/03/16
Biometrics Received on 31/03/16
CAO Received on 13/04 /16
PR...waiting

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Re: Non EEA supporting documents for Permanent Residence car

Post by noajthan » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:55 pm

I have added spacing to your post above as it was hard to read.

So husband is EEA sponsor.
Your activity in UK is immaterial.

You were married and in UK by early 2010. So the period of interest is since then.
Hubby (and you) may have acquired PR status by early 2015.

No significant absences so no concerns there.
Hubby is not an A8 national so no WRS nonsense to worry about.

Was spouse/sponsor a worker or student in 2010?
As a student did hubby have CSI :?:
When did hubby start work?
What is his specific timeline?

Daughter's British passport is irrelevant, no need to have sent that.

In a nutshell you need to demonstrate/prove:
  • both your identities (passports);
    your relationship (marriage certificate);
    evidence of spouse/sponsor exercising treaty rights continuously for 5 years (you know the drill);
    evidence that both parties have resided in UK for 5 years; (yes, your documents are important here, as well as husband's);
It would have been better to send the complete bundle in one go rather than piecemeal;
- otherwise, documents may get misplaced and the caseworker may decide simply on what is in front of her on the day she gets round to process your application.
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Re: Non EEA supporting documents for Permanent Residence car

Post by noajthan » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:59 pm

camilla25 wrote:Could someone please advise me on what do next as motioned earlier I've already sent my second application with the prove of my husbands treaty rights being that he is my sponsor. now my question is:
Can I send more prove of my residency? and if so what kind of documents are they?
I had prepared my bank statement, my payslips, my two children's record books, NHS cards, my employment letters, my daughters school report, and other NHS letters from the hospital.
Should I write to my caseworker and send them because I have got the reference number.
PLEASE HELP IS MUCH APPRECIATED FEEL FREE TO COMMENT.THANK YOU
Yes, if not already in bundle you need to prove your residency in UK - with the sort of official documents you have mentioned (employment, tax, medical etc).
No need for daughter's documents.

Pro tip; keep scans/copies of all documents and the application form you send. Also of any cover letter.
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Re: Non EEA supporting documents for Permanent Residence car

Post by camilla25 » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:09 pm

Hi all, I'm including a covering letter with my supporting document and this is how it reads.
UK Visas and Immigration
Permanent Migration
PO Box 306
Liverpool
L2 0QN

Dear Sir/Madam

RE: Submission of further supporting documents / Request for the urgent processing of my application

Here is to submit to you further documented evidence that you may find useful in your deliberation of the above case. The Application was sent on 8th of March and received on 10th March 2016.
I am kindly requesting that you urgently attend to my case as I have recently incurred a job loss and financial strain to my family as a direct result of my pending immigration status in this country.
Should you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact me on...............

Your swift and kind consideration of this matter is most appreciated.
Yours Sincerely:........
Please help me and advise me what else I could add on to this letter.
Thanks Again.

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Re: Non EEA supporting documents for Permanent Residence car

Post by noajthan » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:59 pm

Do you have a HO reference number?
If so add that near top of letter.

Otherwise list your surname/s, address/postcode, DoB and nationality to help with cross-referencing your bundle.

At the bottom of letter list the documents you have enclosed.

Keep scans & copies of everything you submit (& the letter) for your reference.
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Re: Non EEA supporting documents for Permanent Residence car

Post by vinny » Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:49 am

noajthan wrote:Was spouse/sponsor a worker or student in 2010?
As a student did hubby have CSI :?:
When did hubby start work?
What is his specific timeline?
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Re: Non EEA supporting documents for Permanent Residence car

Post by camilla25 » Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:52 pm

Hi guys, hope you are all well! I just have a quick question I as said earlier am gathering all the paper work to add it to my bundle that I already sent. I just came a cross my hubby's JSA claim letters that was used to claim the benefit so my question is should I include them or leave them? what advantages and disadvantages do they have?
Please help as I don't want to make more mistakes as I have already made.

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Re: Non EEA supporting documents for Permanent Residence car

Post by noajthan » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:31 pm

camilla25 wrote:Hi guys, hope you are all well! I just have a quick question I as said earlier am gathering all the paper work to add it to my bundle that I already sent. I just came a cross my hubby's JSA claim letters that was used to claim the benefit so my question is should I include them or leave them? what advantages and disadvantages do they have?
Please help as I don't want to make more mistakes as I have already made.
How do they help?
Proof of residence?
Suggest leave that JSA letter out.

More importantly you need to dig into these questions which are still unclear parts of your case:
As a student did hubby have CSI :?:
When did hubby start work :?:
What is his specific timeline :?:
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Re: Non EEA supporting documents for Permanent Residence car

Post by Zhonor » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:51 pm

I'm confused at one thing. How did your children obtain British citizenship? I thought children can only obtain BC when one of the parent has BC or PR?

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