Questions about Surinder Singh for Old Age Parents

[jzg86d]

Hi folks, I have been working full time in a EU country in the last two years. My partner and kids are living in the UK. I have been back to UK every month for one or two weekends during the last two years. I rent accommodation in the EU country and take part in lots of local activities in the country. My non EU parents financially rely on me during the period as well but are not living with me. I understand that only couple are required to live together while the British exercises the EU treaty right Can my parents apply for the residence permit under the surinder singh? Any advice? Thanks!

[secret.simon]

I doubt even couples are required to live together when in an EEA country. They just need to be inthe same EEA country as each other, not necessarily living together.

However, you will need to prove that the center of your life is in the other EEA Country in order to bring your family members (your parents) back with you to the UK. If your partner and kids are in the UK, I believe you will fail the test.

[jzg86d]

Thanks secret.simon! Just wondering why an individual person's centre of life is linked with partner and kids. Does it mean if I was a single person, I would be qualified but I am not qualified for being a married person? What about if I buy a property in the EU country as well? Thanks!

[Wanderer]

Thanks secret.simon! Just wondering why an individual person's centre of life is linked with partner and kids. Does it mean if I was a single person, I would be qualified but I am not qualified for being a married person? What about if I buy a property in the EU country as well? Thanks!

You'd need to have moved your total centre of life to the EU state, having a house, family and kids in UK isn't doing that.

[noajthan]

Hi folks, I have been working full time in a EU country in the last two years. My partner and kids are living in the UK. I have been back to UK every month for one or two weekends during the last two years. I rent accommodation in the EU country and take part in lots of local activities in the country. My non EU parents financially rely on me during the period as well but are not living with me. I understand that only couple are required to live together while the British exercises the EU treaty right Can my parents apply for the residence permit under the surinder singh? Any advice? Thanks!

In the pure European form of Surinder Singh maybe they could, but even then its likely parents would be expected to have been living with you (in the EU country): "creating & strengthening family life"

With the UK's controversial centre of life wrapper around Surinder Singh your suggested approach will not fly.

HO training slides & guidance notes on Surinder Singh (for caseworkers) will show you why:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... nuary-2014

[noajthan]

fyi - here's an example of HO playing hardball with centre of life rules (even after issuing a FP to spouse of someone who had been working in a.n.other EU country):
http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-ro ... 99819.html

This appears to be some sort of 'Mornington Crescent'-type approach to administering Surinder Singh.

[secret.simon]

'Mornington Crescent'-type approach

Not everybody will necessarily understand or appreciate the expression. You may wish to elucidate.

[noajthan]

'Mornington Crescent'-type approach

Not everybody will necessarily understand or appreciate the expression. You may wish to elucidate.

Good point, although those who have passed LITUK will no doubt be well aware.

Mornington Crescent = an English cultural reference:
a panel game popularised by a radio comedy show ("I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue") on Radio 4.

The game consists of each panelist in turn announcing a landmark or street, most often a tube station on the London Underground system. The apparent aim is to be the first to announce "Mornington Crescent", a station on the Northern Line.

Despite appearances, however, there are no rules to the game, and both the naming of stations and the specification of "rules" are based on stream-of-consciousness association and improvisation.

Thus the game is intentionally incomprehensible

[jzg86d]

Hi guys, coming back to my old post. I have purchased property in the EU country and have been working in the country for few years. My parents and children joint in me and are living in the country with me. I am covering all living costs for my parents. Children are going to the local schools. Apart from "eu referendum" may give bad effect, are there any other issues may preventing success of my applications under surinder singh? Thanks!

[secret.simon]

I have purchased property in the EU country

Children are going to the local schools.

I am covering all living costs for my parents.

Sounds like good planning. Covers most bases. Where is the partner?

[jzg86d]

Parner s job is in UK but his travels to the EU country quite alot for work as well.

[noajthan]

Parner s job is in UK but his travels to the EU country quite alot for work as well.

That's likely to be a big weakness in your whole case. It weakens your position vis a vis centre of life.
Where does partner actually reside?

Suggest reread the earlier posts on this matter (see above); this point was made by a number of members.