EEA A8 permanent residence chess

[madteddybear]

I would like to obtain permanent residence card, however I have doubts If I can get it. Perhaps I can get some input from the forum users?

I'm Polish.

I've entered UK in 2007 and lived here continuously until now.

I have been studying full-time from 2007 until 2012 without Comprehensive Insurance Sickness Cover.

I haven't had CISC equivalent back in my home country during my stay in the UK.

I haven't registered with WRS.

I have worked on and off from 2007 until 2010 (roughly, 24 months of employment)

I have been claiming Job Seekers Allowance for 18 months.

My understanding is that since I haven't registered with WRS, my employment between 2007-2010 will not count. Neither my study years, since I haven't obtained CISC, nor can provide an equivalent one from my home country because I'm not covered. Thus, only 18 months on JSA will be recognized towards my PR card. Do I stand correct or is there something I can do about it/missed something?

[noajthan]

I would like to obtain permanent residence card, however I have doubts If I can get it. Perhaps I can get some input from the forum users?

I'm Polish.

I've entered UK in 2007 and lived here continuously until now.

I have been studying full-time from 2007 until 2012 without Comprehensive Insurance Sickness Cover.

I haven't had CISC equivalent back in my home country during my stay in the UK.

I haven't registered with WRS.

I have worked on and off from 2007 until 2010 (roughly, 24 months of employment)

I have been claiming Job Seekers Allowance for 18 months.

My understanding is that since I haven't registered with WRS, my employment between 2007-2010 will not count. Neither my study years, since I haven't obtained CISC, nor can provide an equivalent one from my home country because I'm not covered. Thus, only 18 months on JSA will be recognized towards my PR card. Do I stand correct or is there something I can do about it/missed something?

Unfortunately your analysis appears to be correct.

You may find there is also a limit on the period permitted to be considered as exercising treaty rights in the jobseeker category of qualified person.
So that may limit the time recognised as contributing towards PR.

See https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benef ... jobseeker/

[madteddybear]

Hi guys,

Is anyone in a position to clarify to me if I (as an EEA citizen - for now!) have "accumulated" 12 or 30 months towards the 5 years qualifying period for a PR card by now?

I have been registered as a Job Seeker with the Job Centre for 18 months, then it was followed by a non CSI-ed 12 months period of study, and THEN followed by 12 months period of study with CSI.

Hence, have I (ceteris paribus vide possible Brexit) gathered 12 months only or 30 months of valid credit towards PR card despite a 12 months break between Job Seeker's status and CSI-ed student student?

Best,
MadTeddyBear

[noajthan]

Hi guys,

Is anyone in a position to clarify to me if I (as an EEA citizen - for now!) have "accumulated" 12 or 30 months towards the 5 years qualifying period for a PR card by now?

I have been registered as a Job Seeker with the Job Centre for 18 months, then it was followed by a non CSI-ed 12 months period of study, and THEN followed by 12 months period of study with CSI.

Hence, have I (ceteris paribus vide possible Brexit) gathered 12 months only or 30 months of valid credit towards PR card despite a 12 months break between Job Seeker's status and CSI-ed student student?

Best,
MadTeddyBear

12 months.
Treaty rights have to be exercised continuously.
(Technically you had no basis in UK whilst studying without CSI or alternative in place).

18 months as a jobseeker may prove problematic too (as mentioned previously), even if the time slots had been continuous.

It's a longshot but did you ever have a RC issued to you as a student in/before 2011?
OR
Whilst in UK in earlier years did you ever have a parent in UK who was exercising treaty rights?
if so they may be a potential sponsor; (it would depend on your age at the time too).

[madteddybear]

Thanks for a quick reply, noajthan.

It's a longshot but did you ever have a RC issued to you as a student in/before 2011?

I don't think so, what would that document look like and who would have issued it to me?

No, no parent in the UK previously.

Question: what, then, does happen if someone goes for a few weeks on holidays abroad? Or, starts a new job, after having finished employment at the previous one and there is a gap between the two? Does that mean they have broken this continuity and the clock is reset?

As far as I understand, there is a generous number of days allowed for absences from the UK, either within every calendar year or over the period of five years for the purposes of prospective naturalisation process.


MTB

[noajthan]

Thanks for a quick reply, noajthan.

It's a longshot but did you ever have a RC issued to you as a student in/before 2011?

I don't think so, what would that document look like and who would have issued it to me?

No, no parent in the UK previously.

Question: what, then, does happen if someone goes for a few weeks on holidays abroad? Or, starts a new job, after having finished employment at the previous one and there is a gap between the two? Does that mean they have broken this continuity and the clock is reset?

As far as I understand, there is a generous number of days allowed for absences from the UK, either within every calendar year or over the period of five years for the purposes of prospective naturalisation process.

MTB

A RC is an optional residence certificate/card issue by HO to EEA nationals (or family dependents, respectively). You would have applied for it.
Examples to be found if you google images.

Continuity of residence is not broken by certain absences from UK and the PR clock does not stop.
(HO are not Philistines, they realise people need a break from our summer climate once in a while).
Joking apart, it's actually covered by EU law and is a quite different scenario from not having CSI as a student for 12 months.

Anecdotally, short gaps (say, days) between categories of qualified person may be disregarded but don't quote me and do not bank on it.

But students (& self-sufficient qualified persons) do need CSI (or alternative) just as A8 nationals previously needed WRS. Its not negotiable.

Don't mix up rules for absences for those on the EU migration trajectory with rules for those aiming to naturalise.
The two sets of rules are quite different from each other and both have to be met at the appropriate time.

Being a student or working are not compulsory for the privilege of citizenship so lack of, say, CSI doesn't matter for citizenship. But you still have to acquire PR and get your DCPR first.

[madteddybear]

I actually need to verify if my parents have had health insurance protection extended to myself whilst I have been a student in the UK. Would any, reasonably comprehensive, be it a private one or not insurance, suffice?

[noajthan]

I actually need to verify if my parents have had health insurance protection extended to myself whilst I have been a student in the UK. Would any, reasonably comprehensive, be it a private one or not insurance, suffice?

Yes, any comprehensive policy that applied to you should do.
Official translation of any letter or document/policy will be required.