Rise in Xenophobia and hate since Brexit

[Obie]

There has been a steady rise in acts of hate and Xenophobia since the Referendum on the 23rd June.

There are reports that hate crimes have increased by up to 57% since the referendum result.

Haters have used the result as a passport to attack people of different nationality, race and religion.

A German woman who was married to a British man and have lived in the UK for over 30 years was told to go home, and she is not welcomed in the UK any longer. The widow had excrement put in her door and told she is no longer welcome in the UK.

This spike in Xenophobia is becoming the order of the day in the UK since the result.

People are advised to report to police any of this incident.

Unfortunately the German woman has been confined to her home for the last 3 days unable to get out, poor woman. It appears the police have not been able to assist this poor vulnerable person.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/so ... ng-8301656

I was reduced to tears when i heard the woman's story. No human being deserves to be treated in such manner.

With a rise in 57%, in it no surprise that the police are overwhelmed.
Acts of lovely is unacceptable, especially against lawful residence who work hard, are law abiding, and make positive contributions to the UK.

People should not put up with it in secrecy, they should stand up to these evil creature, and if unsafe to do so, call the police.

Please should avoid walking alone in area which voted overwhelmingly for Brexit, and which has a reputation for far right.

As westminister is in political turmoil and chaos, these occurrence are likely to occur until this state of disarray in the political parties subsides.

We are on borrowed times. It is unbelievable these this people have taken us back to the dark days of the 60s and 70s.

[Amber]

Oh how ridiculous, so you are basically saying that you can't go anywhere but for NI, Scotland or London otherwise all the English will pop up and bat you, particularly the ones who voted leave. You must have sucker wrote on your head!

[Casa]

In order to carry a positive action we must develop here a positive vision. Dalai Lama

[Obie]

In order to carry a positive action we must develop here a positive vision. Dalai Lama

Point taken. I shall desist from posting current affair materials , if it is likely to cause discomfort to member.

Needless to say, that it is clearly not the intention behind the post.

[Casa]

For the best I think Obie.

[Nimitta]

With all due respect Obie is one of the oldest Gurus on this forum and I think he deserves respect. There is nothing wrong with his post. He just raised his concern about what is going on, that's all. People are concerned, it's only natural.

[ILR4PVM]

+1 Nimitta

When Obie started raising this very serious issue straight after the results in various threads, all other moderators / gurus seemed hell bent in proving that nothing is wrong - hope now you have seen enough reports in the media to think again. This is only going to get worse with the leadership vaccumm, broken promises and unravelling lies ! I live in Essex, the recruiting ground for everything far right and have seen and heard enough instances in the last one week to know that this divisive campaign has stokked up enough hatred in this already inward looking region.

"In order to carry a positive action we must first acknowledge an issue rather than being in total denial !"

[noajthan]

+1 Nimitta
..., all other moderators / gurus seemed hell bent in proving that nothing is wrong

Speak for your yourself, don't pigeonhole me.

[Casa]

+1 Nimitta
..., all other moderators / gurus seemed hell bent in proving that nothing is wrong

Speak for your yourself, don't pigeonhole me.

Me neither, but we should also be concerned that we now have Bremainers publicly saying the older generation who voted to leave, should go away and die. Hate simply breeds hate on all sides.

[vinny]

Hate simply breeds hate on all sides.

Indeed. Hate is also self-destructive.

[vinny]

Obie's concerns may be well founded in history.

See also How Hate Speech Paves the Way For Harmful Social Movements.

[ILR4PVM]

I should have said 'a few moderators / gurus'... apologies.

A tiny tiny minority of xenophobes started hijacking the results of the referendum and decided in their petty minds that they have got the mandate of 52% of the public to be openly dearly beloved. That tiny tiny minority now seems to be growing into a tiny minority and maybe a minority - but the real worry is that it is growing.

Take a look: https://www.facebook.com/groups/610588862443201/

Xenophobia is a by-product of natural selection and just like every other 'instinct', it takes immense resolve to go against what the selfish gene wants. The EU project for me was humanity's attempt to move forward into a 'Type 1' civilisation in the Kardashev scale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale just like the internet, English language, stress on moving away from conventional energy sources and migration. Every transistion from one Type to the next creates immense social upheaval and are possible candidates for self destruction of a civilisation. Brexit may be, is one of them - a consequence of we trying to move from Type nothing to Type 1. If we work together, we will come out of this stronger and better. If not, we might be answering the Fermi Paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox with the only possible outcome "It is the nature of intelligent life to destroy itself".

[vinny]

I hope that eventually the nice guys finish first.

[Petaltop]

+1 Nimitta

When Obie started raising this very serious issue straight after the results in various threads, all other moderators / gurus seemed hell bent in proving that nothing is wrong!"

Obie always puts anti-British posts on here. Look back at his posts and on the threads and on the sticky he starts.

[secret.simon]

I think we as a group need to markedly reduce the acrimony on these forums.

The referendum results have resulted in passions being inflamed on both sides of the debate. But it is worth remembering that the role of these forums is not to discussion politics in detail (though politics is bound to intrude given that rules on immigration are dictated by politics), but to guide individual members on their immigration journeys.

If we do discuss politics, let us try to do it in a relatively neutral way. Remember that everything (even evil) exists for a reason. The purpose of discussion should be to look at the reasons for an event occurring and addressing it, rather than condemning the event itself.

The acrimony of the debate has already led to one moderator taking indeterminate leave of absence. At the end of the day, we need a diverse range of opinions on these forums and the loss of experience, especially at that level, only impoverishes the whole forum and all of us.

So, temper, temper, calm down and let's carry on with helping each other with immigration related questions.

[CR001]

I think we as a group need to markedly reduce the acrimony on these forums.

The referendum results have resulted in passions being inflamed on both sides of the debate. But it is worth remembering that the role of these forums is not to discussion politics in detail (though politics is bound to intrude given that rules on immigration are dictated by politics), but to guide individual members on their immigration journeys.

If we do discuss politics, let us try to do it in a relatively neutral way. Remember that everything (even evil) exists for a reason. The purpose of discussion should be to look at the reasons for an event occurring and addressing it, rather than condemning the event itself.

The acrimony of the debate has already led to one moderator taking indeterminate leave of absence. At the end of the day, we need a diverse range of opinions on these forums and the loss of experience, especially at that level, only impoverishes the whole forum and all of us.

So, temper, temper, calm down and let's carry on with helping each other with immigration related questions.

+ 1 and very eloquently put as usual secret.simon. Amber will be a loss to the forum.

[Petaltop]

I think we as a group need to markedly reduce the acrimony on these forums.

The referendum results have resulted in passions being inflamed on both sides of the debate. But it is worth remembering that the role of these forums is not to discussion politics in detail (though politics is bound to intrude given that rules on immigration are dictated by politics), but to guide individual members on their immigration journeys.

If we do discuss politics, let us try to do it in a relatively neutral way. Remember that everything (even evil) exists for a reason. The purpose of discussion should be to look at the reasons for an event occurring and addressing it, rather than condemning the event itself.

The acrimony of the debate has already led to one moderator taking indeterminate leave of absence. At the end of the day, we need a diverse range of opinions on these forums and the loss of experience, especially at that level, only impoverishes the whole forum and all of us.

So, temper, temper, calm down and let's carry on with helping each other with immigration related questions.

+ 1 and very eloquently put as usual secret.simon. Amber will be a loss to the forum.

Oh no, not Amber. That is the wrong moderator to leave.

A cool head, common sense and has never tried to make money from anyone who posts on here asking for help. So sorry to see you go Amber.

[Casa]

Sadly Amber was a victim of unpleasant PMs (as all mods often are), but in one in particular a forum member accused both her and myself of working for Boris Johnson and that if she didn't say that the leave vote was fixed she would be reported to the electoral commission! Bonkers I know, but cyber bullying none-the-less. She simply had enough.
Amber has helped a great many members with advice, so our loss.

As a moderator I've attempted to remain neutral in these discussions, with only a brief comment here and there. My father always reminded me never to discuss religion and politics ...oh and the Great Pumpkin
http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new ... uette_rule

[vinny]

Better to discuss Winnie the Pooh's words of wisdom?

The things that make me different are the things that make me.

[Casa]

Better to discuss Winnie the Pooh's words of wisdom?

The things that make me different are the things that make me.

Funny Vinny that I'm fortunate to live on the very edge of Winnie the Pooh land and know him well.

[Petaltop]

Sadly Amber was a victim of unpleasant PMs (as all mods often are), but in one in particular a forum member accused both her and myself of working for Boris Johnson and that if she didn't say that the leave vote was fixed she would be reported to the electoral commission! Bonkers I know, but cyber bullying none-the-less. She simply had enough.
Amber has helped a great many members with advice, so our loss.

So sorry that happened to you Amber. There are some evil people in this world and only a evil person would do that.

I hope this site gave their details to the police so that they can be traced. Even libraries have cctv.

My father always reminded me never to discuss religion and politics ...oh and the Great Pumpkin
http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new ... uette_rule

Ours was, "politics and money".

[Casa]

I'm not sure that Amber is accessing posts any longer but I'm sure she will appreciate your kind thoughts if she is.

Parents...full of wisdom eh?

[secret.simon]

I hope that after passions have calmed down, that Amber would resume her role. She has been helpful to many on these forums.

[RRSB2012]

There is nothing wrong in having a strong opinion on any particular issue. What is needed is maturity and tolerance to value the difference of opinion.
I am glad that I have the opportunity of listening to different opinions and view points and thankful to everyone who raises them. It gives me an opportunity to think differently then my own mental model.

It is sad that a person who contributed over 16,000 posts had left the forum, what a loss caused by intolerance. Is it not possible to block people involved in hate speech? .... I am sure moderators must have tried whatever could have been possible.

I wish for and look forward to healthy discussions (with tolerance ofcourse).
Take Care everyone
R

[Obie]

Innocent Pregnant woman beaten by a thug and had her unborn fetus destroyed, because she looks different.