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Apply on MN1 or wait for 10yrs Route?

Post by goodmann » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:31 pm

Dear members of this great forum.
I have an 8-yr old UK-born son who resides with his non-british mum with no valid Leave to Remain. Actually we have 2kids together; one still overseas- but not uk-born. Presently I have ILR and planning to register him.
Kindly help to determine the better route, taking costs of applications into consideration: should I apply through MN1(3) now or wait till the boy turns 10yrs(when he'll automatically qualify on his own merit) in about 14months' time?
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Re: Apply on MN1 or wait for 10yrs Route?

Post by CR001 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:38 pm

MN1 is cheaper @ £936.
Form T (10 years route) is £1,121

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... 8_v0_3.pdf

Your choice, but as he is eligible for MN1, you can do it now, he will be British otherwise than descent.
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Re: Apply on MN1 or wait for 10yrs Route?

Post by goodmann » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:56 pm

Many thanks CR001 for advising way forward.
Another concern is the fact that my son resides with the mum, should I worry about this if I state it on the application?
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Re: Apply on MN1 or wait for 10yrs Route?

Post by CR001 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:11 pm

Are you named on the child's birth certificate?

Are you and mother 'partners' or separated?

Only one parent requires ILR to register under section 1(3). Mother will have to sign consent on the form too.
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Re: Apply on MN1 or wait for 10yrs Route?

Post by goodmann » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:22 pm

CR001 wrote:Are you named on the child's birth certificate?

Are you and mother 'partners' or separated?

Only one parent requires ILR to register under section 1(3). Mother will have to sign consent on the form too.
Yes my name appears on the birth certificate as the father. We planned to marry but it never happened, though we lived together for some time which ended in 2008. She has another child for another man now, I am not sure whether she's married to her new man.
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Re: Apply on MN1 or wait for 10yrs Route?

Post by CR001 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:45 pm

If your child was born after a certain date, HO would expect DNA proof that it is your child if you were not married to the mother.

Will have to look for the link when I get home from work.
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Re: Apply on MN1 or wait for 10yrs Route?

Post by Casa » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:25 pm

In the meantime, this article by Free Movement explains the situation clearly on required proof of paternity for BC registration.
https://www.freemovement.org.uk/proving ... tificates/
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Re: Apply on MN1 or wait for 10yrs Route?

Post by goodmann » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:42 pm

CR001 wrote:If your child was born after a certain date, HO would expect DNA proof that it is your child if you were not married to the mother.

Will have to look for the link when I get home from work.
Perhaps the date is 10 September 2015. I saw this in the link by 'Casa'. Pls still post the link.
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Re: Apply on MN1 or wait for 10yrs Route?

Post by goodmann » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:57 pm

Casa wrote:In the meantime, this article by Free Movement explains the situation clearly on required proof of paternity for BC registration.
https://www.freemovement.org.uk/proving ... tificates/
Thanks Casa, I found the information very helpful. I found from the link that the cut-off date is 10 September 2015, thank God it would not affect me.
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Re: Apply on MN1 or wait for 10yrs Route?

Post by goodmann » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:00 pm

I still do not know the implication of the fact that my son resides with the mum, should I worry about this if I state it on the application? We were never married
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Re: Apply on MN1 or wait for 10yrs Route?

Post by Richard W » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:37 pm

CR001 wrote:MN1 is cheaper @ £936.
Form T (10 years route) is £1,121

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... 8_v0_3.pdf

Your choice, but as he is eligible for MN1, you can do it now, he will be British otherwise than descent.
Form T is also £936 for children; CR001 quoted the adult price. In both cases there is or will be an entitlement to register, so I would say go for MN1 now before he reaches the age of 10 and has to meet the good character requirement. That way, he can still become British even if he starts stealing cars.

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Re: Apply on MN1 or wait for 10yrs Route?

Post by Casa » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:42 pm

Richard W wrote:
CR001 wrote:MN1 is cheaper @ £936.
Form T (10 years route) is £1,121

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... 8_v0_3.pdf

Your choice, but as he is eligible for MN1, you can do it now, he will be British otherwise than descent.
Form T is also £936 for children; CR001 quoted the adult price. In both cases there is or will be an entitlement to register, so I would say go for MN1 now before he reaches the age of 10 and has to meet the good character requirement. That way, he can still become British even if he starts stealing cars.
Hopefully goodmann as a parent won't take offence at a rather insensitive comment. :|
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Re: Apply on MN1 or wait for 10yrs Route?

Post by goodmann » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:05 pm

Casa wrote:
Richard W wrote:
CR001 wrote:MN1 is cheaper @ £936.
Form T (10 years route) is £1,121

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... 8_v0_3.pdf

Your choice, but as he is eligible for MN1, you can do it now, he will be British otherwise than descent.
Form T is also £936 for children; CR001 quoted the adult price. In both cases there is or will be an entitlement to register, so I would say go for MN1 now before he reaches the age of 10 and has to meet the good character requirement. That way, he can still become British even if he starts stealing cars.
Hopefully goodmann as a parent won't take offence at a rather insensitive comment. :|
I chose to only note the embedded advice, no offence. Thanks
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Re: Apply on MN1 or wait for 10yrs Route?

Post by Richard W » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:56 pm

Casa wrote:
Richard W wrote:That way, he can still become British even if he starts stealing cars.
Hopefully goodmann as a parent won't take offence at a rather insensitive comment. :|
Children going off the rails is a risk all we parents face. It's one of the risky things about the Form T route - the good character requirement always applies. Other registration routes may allow a child to be registered before it becomes subject to the good character requirement at the age of 10.

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Re: Apply on MN1 or wait for 10yrs Route?

Post by noajthan » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:06 pm

Still does not justify uncalled for remarks.
And OP being so forgiving does not normalise them.
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Re: Apply on MN1 or wait for 10yrs Route?

Post by Richard W » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:31 pm

Sorry, it had not occurred to me that Goodmann's family was incapable of doing wrong. I had assumed they were normal, fallible mortals.

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Re: Apply on MN1 or wait for 10yrs Route?

Post by noajthan » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:40 pm

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