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Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by toby23 » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:42 pm

Hello guys!

Im living in the UK for almost 8 years.. Came here on student visa, moved to Tier 1 Entrepreneur. Getting a Tier 1 Entrepreneur was a pain in a back side but I finally got it.
My Tier 1 is due to expire in third week of october. I run a real estate investment consultancy and have got all the legal documents to extende my visa i.e created employment for 2 EU nationals and invested 50K.

Recently my bf proposed and we are planning to get married in Sep.

Now my questions is

a) Giving notice for marriage and getting married.

I dont mind getting married next year properly but I'm thinking of doing the paper work this year as it will be cheaper for me to apply for EEA residence card than paying a big solictor fee ( 4000 gbp) for Tier 1 Entrepreneur extention and the 1300 gbp for the visa fee as apposed to 65 gbp.

Me and my partner are living together and thinking of giving the notice in by the end of august. My visa is due to be extended third week of oct. How likely is that I'll get the green signal ? I heard the notice is displayed for 28 days and if any of the party is on visa then notice gets extended for 70 days!

I know there are a lot of sham marriages but a lot of genuine people suffer as well.

Any advice on this ?

b) To avoid this hassle I'm thinking if its better to go to New York with my friends and bf, and get married there ?

c) Regarding the application.. I have read the form, its not rocket science...

Can anyone share some positive stories please? Timelines from date of application to COA to arrival of visa...


b)

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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by noajthan » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:48 pm

RC is optional so you can save yourself 65 quids.
Move away from a 'visa' mindset if triggering EU migration trajectory.

Read timeline thread, its all in there.
Your mileage may vary ofcourse.

Don't take application for granted; rock-solid evidence required.
Get it wrong and risk turning yourself into an overstayer.
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by toby23 » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:54 pm

Hey

Thanks for the quick reply...

Move away from a 'visa' mindset if triggering EU migration trajectory.-- sorry didnt get this bit.

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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by noajthan » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:56 pm

toby23 wrote:Hey

Thanks for the quick reply...

Move away from a 'visa' mindset if triggering EU migration trajectory.-- sorry didnt get th
is bit.
RC is a purely confirmatory document.
Useful but not compulsory. Its not a visa.
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by noajthan » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:07 am

Get married before current leave expires.

I assume fiance is a Union citizen...
Make sure hubby knuckles down and is exercising treaty rights in UK as a qualified person.
The full power and weight of EU law will kick in to give you the right to reside, work and study.
Although in a migration context what you actually do is immaterial (as long as legal ofcourse).

You may find you start to develop cravings for cappuccino, croissants and Swiss or Belgian chocolates.
Viva free movement!.
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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by toby23 » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:16 am

haha...well yeah, we are getting married soon :)). But the question is how easy is the green signal to get married. I mean these days they refer the cases to Home office to check if the marriage is legitimate, which is fair enough. But in my case, my visa expires in Oct and I'll give notice end of Aug. Do I have sufficient time for the go ahead from UKBA ?

He has been living here for more than 10 years, working as a professor in a college. Infact we are thinking he should apply for his PR as well. He is hungarian.

I'm a legal resident of the UK and can extend my stay even without EEA RC. I was just thinking of it as a more economical was, as visa fees and solicitor fees has soared in last few years :(.

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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by toby23 » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:18 am

Thank you Noajthan :))

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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by noajthan » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:26 am

toby23 wrote:haha...well yeah, we are getting married soon :)). But the question is how easy is the green signal to get married. I mean these days they refer the cases to Home office to check if the marriage is legitimate, which is fair enough. But in my case, my visa expires in Oct and I'll give notice end of Aug. Do I have sufficient time for the go ahead from UKBA ?

He has been living here for more than 10 years, working as a professor in a college. Infact we are thinking he should apply for his PR as well. He is hungarian.

I'm a legal resident of the UK and can extend my stay even without EEA RC. I was just thinking of it as a more economical was, as visa fees and solicitor fees has soared in last few years :(.
Its UKVI now. (UKBA was abolished in 2013).

You may have left the timing a bit late to marry in UK. Just in time management I guess.

If you jump ship from UK Regs to EEA Regs you need to get it right. Or you risk falling between rock and hard place.

Get married before current leave expires. Then EU rights should kick in immediately, if, as you say, hubby to be is a worker.
You could always go and marry in Vegas.

Yes, anyone in UK on EU route would be wise to procure some EU-related documentaion to help secure their position with all this wild talk of Brexit.
Transitional arrangements made previously have typically depended on possession of a RC by a certain key date (all yet TBC for Brexit ofcourse).
You may have to rely on them too as newcomers to EU route are unlikely to acquire PR in the normal way anymore; (no time left).
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by toby23 » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:47 am

Thank you :)

I was thinking of the Vegas option! Do I need to get a special type of Marriage certificate from Vegas ?

But lets hope I get a green signal because I don't want to rush things...

Toby xx

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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by noajthan » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:49 am

toby23 wrote:Thank you :)

I was thinking of the Vegas option! Do I need to get a special type of Marriage certificate from Vegas ?

But lets hope I get a green signal because I don't want to rush things...

Toby xx
Don't know. I got married in Wales.
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by Noetic » Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:45 am

What is hubby to be's nationality?

Anyway congratulations - you may find more info on notification of marriage etc in other sections of the forum.

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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by noajthan » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:26 am

OP states: Hungarian.
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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by asp » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:25 am

I love Vegas, but don't come back with any more spouses than I arrived with :)

Looks pretty easy to sort this out and have some time in the sun, at the craps tables and shopping at the two super outlet malls. Beware though, smoking is allowed in the casinos...

https://www.vegas.com/weddings/las-vega ... uirements/

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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by toby23 » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:56 pm

Hahah :) :) thanks guys for your kinds comments.. Definately.. I'll come back with one for now ;) jke ...

Let's hope all goes well. Any other suggestions ? I actually wanted to do a ceremony here because all of my friends are here.. and its a special day for me so want all my loved ones to be around.
But sadly I cant expect all of my mates to just drop their plans and come to LV to my wedding.

So from you recommendations I should simply avoid giving notice here ?
I was thinking of Gibraltar as well. Its a good location, beautiful views and then my friends could actually think of taking a flight for 3 hours..

Anyone knows any good wedding planner ? or whats the procedure like to give notice etc.... I got some information from a website but I'm a bit confused regarding nortary stuff.

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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by noajthan » Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:53 pm

toby23 wrote:...

So from you recommendations I should simply avoid giving notice here ?
I was thinking of Gibraltar as well. Its a good location, beautiful views and then my friends could actually think of taking a flight for 3 hours..

Anyone knows any good wedding planner ? or whats the procedure like to give notice etc.... I got some information from a website but I'm a bit confused regarding nortary stuff.
Suggest just follow UK Registrar's website if marrying in UK. But timing will be tight and little or no contingency.

If abroad, procedure will be country-specific;
just bring back several official copies of marriage certificate (preferably in English); not just one copy.
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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by toby23 » Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:01 am

Gibraltar is an overseas british territory.. so it should be ok ??

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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by noajthan » Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:03 am

toby23 wrote:Gibraltar is an overseas british territory.. so it should be ok ??
I think they speak English if that's what you mean.

You will have to check their timelines for marriage notification, license & etc.
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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by toby23 » Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:24 am

No.. I meant they issue marrige certificates in English and their civil partnership/ marriage certificate is valid all over the world.

Checked their notice period and everything. Gibraltar is the Las Vegas of europe lol

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EEA2 and DCPR application documents

Post by toby23 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:28 am

Dear All,

We are planning to send two applications together in one bundle

EEA2 - FM for me and DCPR for my partner.

May I politely ask you to give a list of documents for both the applications?

Has anyone been through the same process. What are the dos and don'ts.
Does my partner needs to get a letter from his last employers to confirm that he has worked with them or P60 with payslips will be sufficient.

Thanks

Best,

Toby

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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by noajthan » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:35 am

Posts merged.

No need for multiple posts,
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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by toby23 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:39 am

Sure thanks :)

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Re: EEA2 and DCPR application documents

Post by noajthan » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:40 am

toby23 wrote:Dear All,

We are planning to send two applications together in one bundle

EEA2 - FM for me and DCPR for my partner.

May I politely ask you to give a list of documents for both the applications?

Has anyone been through the same process. What are the dos and don'ts.
Does my partner needs to get a letter from his last employers to confirm that he has worked with them or P60 with payslips will be sufficient.

Thanks

Best,

Toby
Follow official PR & FM guidance, its comprehensive. Have you checked it?

Rock-solid (if not unimpeachable) documentary supporting evidence is a must.
Don't take anything for granted, you will not be given benefit of doubt and 'rubber-stamped' through.

Yes, employer/s' letter/s helps. (Did I mention rock-solid evidence).
All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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Re: Help needed .. EEA residence card..Marriage

Post by noajthan » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:44 am

All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost. E&OE.

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