Adequate maintenance:- benefits rates from April 2012

[adanmasood143]

Member petaltop is generally clued up with this.

HI CASE,
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP AND QUICK REPLY AS I AM NEW IN THESE FORUMS AND NEVER USED ANYTHING SUCH BEFORE CAN YOU TELL HOW CAN I CONTACT THE MEMBER PETALTOP?

[Casa]

I'll send her a PM and ask her nicely if she would mind taking a look at your question....although in the meantime of course you may get the answer from another member.

[adanmasood143]

I'll send her a PM and ask her nicely if she would mind taking a look at your question....although in the meantime of course you may get the answer from another member.

THANKS CASA..!!
That would be so so kind of you and her if can can all the details are already on the post like what i was getting and all..

I dont even know how to PM anybody..!! You are a savior..!

BLESS YOU and desperately looking for a reply...!! But I dont know how the things works on these forums

But I am leaving my email Id if someone needs more info to sort the query from me please drop me an email as well if allowed and possible

[Casa]

I'll send her a PM and ask her nicely if she would mind taking a look at your question....although in the meantime of course you may get the answer from another member.

THANKS CASA..!!
That would be so so kind of you and her if can can all the details are already on the post like what i was getting and all..

I dont even know how to PM anybody..!! You are a savior..!

BLESS YOU and desperately looking for a reply...!! But I dont know how the things works on these forums

But I am leaving my email Id if someone needs more info to sort the query from me please drop me an email as well if allowed and possible

I'll leave petaltop your post in the thread. I've removed your email address for your personal security from scammers & spammers who frequently trawl the forum .

[adanmasood143]

I'll send her a PM and ask her nicely if she would mind taking a look at your question....although in the meantime of course you may get the answer from another member.

THANKS CASA..!!
That would be so so kind of you and her if can can all the details are already on the post like what i was getting and all..

I dont even know how to PM anybody..!! You are a savior..!

BLESS YOU and desperately looking for a reply...!! But I dont know how the things works on these forums

But I am leaving my email Id if someone needs more info to sort the query from me please drop me an email as well if allowed and possible

I'll leave petaltop your post in the thread. I've removed your email address for your personal security from scammers & spammers who frequently trawl the forum .

Hi CASA...
Have u got any response from Petaltop?

[Casa]

No, as yet my PM hasn't been opened.

[adanmasood143]

No, as yet my PM hasn't been opened.

Ok Hopefully Soon we will get something out of it..

Dear Casa, I went to a personal today who gives advice to community here on all such matters as a volunteer. He calculated all and said by the looks of it you were meeting it in 2014. But they only confirmation could be done if I ask An SAR from HO.

But home office said it takes 40+ days to send me the paper copy of my file.... Is there anyother way to find out in my previous visa will route they put me into?

As far as I am aware I was meeting all the criteria and maintenance was exempt due to carers allowance and the adaquate maintenance as of said by the person today was OK itself... I am hoping it would be 5 Years but

If any other way to confirm it from any HO department before 40 days?

[Petaltop]

Hi CASA...
Have u got any response from Petaltop?

Hi

I have only just seem the pm but I'm sorry to say that I know nothing about these calculations for a spouse visa. It was always amber who calculated these.

All I could do was look up the way to calcualte this
Page 7
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... nnex_F.pdf

and get the benefits rates for 2014/15 so you can chcek to see if you met the requirements.
http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/pdfs/rights ... 014_15.pdf

From your last post on here it looks like someone has done this calculation for you.

[adanmasood143]

Dear CASA and Other Members,
Thanks for your support... I am so glad to see such helpful and active people around here..

I been reading to much Immigration rules and requirements now a days and Similarly its making me too too too much confuse. BASICALLY I am trying to figure out what happened or should have happened in my previous application.

AS my Mrs was exempt for the threshold due to Carers allowance by the time of my previous application. She was receiving.

Carer Allowance: £61.35 (£245.40 P/M) (PAID Per Week)
Income Support: £ 13.17 (£52.62 P/M) (PAID PER WEEK)
Child Benefit: £190.40 (£47.10 P/W) (Per for 3 Kids Once a Month)
Tax Credits: £670.91 (£167.67 P/W) (Paid once per Month)
Housing Benefit: £369.24 (£92.31 P/W) (Paid Every 2 weeks )

TOTAL MRS EARNING P/M: £ 1528.57

Q: I was working as well by that time and Sent the 3 months Wage slips and 6 months bank statements.

Would they consider both of our Average Earning towards the adequate maintenance or Just her's?

If Both ..! Than who would they gonna calculate my weekly or Monthly Income? From my last payslip or they will take the Mean of the 3 months wages? Like Add the sums and divide by 3? AS I WAS JUST WORKING FOR 3 months by the time We made the application.


Because i heard someone saying that they will take six months into consideration and divide the the months salary to 6 months and GOD knows how..!!

CAN ANYONE GIVE ME THE SPECIFIED ANSWER THAT WHETHER THEY TAKE BOTH OF THE SALARIES IN CONSIDERATION?

AND HOW WOULD THEY CALCULATE MY AVERAGE WEEKLY INCOME? PLEASE

I AM SO SO CONFUSED PLEASE HELPPP

[vinny]

4.1. Permitted income sources
The following sources of income of the applicant (in respect of employment or self- employment, only if they are in the UK with permission to work) or (as appropriate) their partner, parent, parent’s partner or other sponsor can be counted where an application under Appendix FM has to meet the adequate maintenance requirement:

[adanmasood143]

4.1. Permitted income sources
The following sources of income of the applicant (in respect of employment or self- employment, only if they are in the UK with permission to work) or (as appropriate) their partner, parent, parent’s partner or other sponsor can be counted where an application under Appendix FM has to meet the adequate maintenance requirement:

Hi VINNY,
Thanks for the answer but sorry i could not understand it..

Can u please clarify..? Will they consider both of our incomes as by the time we both were in UK and i was working and she was on carers allowance as exempt from the Threshold..

[vinny]

It seems that both sources of income from applicant and partner may be included, provided both are legally in the UK.

Ask your employers to work out the gross annual salary/income. Divide by 52 to get the weekly income.

5.3. Earnings from employment (all adequate maintenance applications under Appendix FM)
Under paragraph 12A(a) of Appendix FM-SE, where income from current employment in the UK is relied upon, the following must be provided:
a) A letter from the employer confirming the employment, the gross annual salary/income and the annual salary/income after income tax and National Insurance contributions have been paid, how long the employment has been held, and the type of employment (permanent, fixed-term contract or agency).
b) Payslips covering the period of 6 months prior to the date of application or such shorter period as the current employment has been held.
c) Personal bank statements covering the same period as the payslips, showing that the salary/income has been paid into an account in the name of the person or in the name of the person and their partner jointly.

Paragraph 18 of Appendix FM-SE, sets out additional provisions relevant to the calculation of employment income under paragraph 12A.

[adanmasood143]

Hi Vinny,
Thanks for your reply actually i have calculated it and it looks like i was meeting the criteria only if they consider both of our incomes by the time of the application.. Please have a look and suggest please..

The only confusion now is whether they consider both of the incomes and how will the get my avg weekly income. bec if they would not have considered mine then we would not have met by any chance, PLease suggest

APPX could be 90% accurate in CASE 2014

Carer Allowance: £61.35 (£245.40 P/M) (PAID Per Week)
Income Support: £ 13.17 (£52.62 P/M) (PAID PER WEEK)
Child Benefit: £47.60 (£190.40 P/M) (Per for 3 Kids Once a Month)
Child Tax Credits: £167.67 (£670.91 P/M) (Paid once per Month)
Housing Benefit: £92.31 (£369.24 P/M) (Paid Every 2 weeks )

TOTAL SPONSOR EARNING P/M: £ 1526.40 / (£381.6 P/W)

My Average Income P/M: £390 (£97.5 P/W) (AVG hours 60 per £6.50 )
Joint Net Income PER Month: £ 1916.40 (PER WEEK would BE £442.24) (A)

RENT+ COUNCIL TAX = £4800 P/Y (£400 P/M)++++++++COUNCIL TAX £200 P/Y =========================(£96.15 P/W) (B)


AS PER FORMULA

£442.24----------£96.15============ £346.09 (Remaining after deducting the B from A)

AVERAGE FAMILY INCOME SUPPORT MAINTENANCE BY THAT TIME ROUGHLY BY STANDARD BRITISH FAMILY
COUPLE Income suppor t Per week : £113.70
Dependent childs (as of 3 Kids) P/W: £66.33 x3 = £198.99
Family Premium P/W: £ 17.45
Total: £330.14
So As of Formula A----------------B>C

So We met the Criteria of the Adequate Maintenance..!

[adanmasood143]

It seems that both sources of income from applicant and partner may be included, provided both are legally in the UK.

Ask your employers to work out the gross annual salary/income. Divide by 52 to get the weekly income.

5.3. Earnings from employment (all adequate maintenance applications under Appendix FM)
Under paragraph 12A(a) of Appendix FM-SE, where income from current employment in the UK is relied upon, the following must be provided:
a) A letter from the employer confirming the employment, the gross annual salary/income and the annual salary/income after income tax and National Insurance contributions have been paid, how long the employment has been held, and the type of employment (permanent, fixed-term contract or agency).
b) Payslips covering the period of 6 months prior to the date of application or such shorter period as the current employment has been held.
c) Personal bank statements covering the same period as the payslips, showing that the salary/income has been paid into an account in the name of the person or in the name of the person and their partner jointly.

Paragraph 18 of Appendix FM-SE, sets out additional provisions relevant to the calculation of employment income under paragraph 12A.

[adanmasood143]

Hi Vinny,
Thanks for your reply actually i have calculated it and it looks like i was meeting the criteria only if they consider both of our incomes by the time of the application.. Please have a look and suggest please..

The only confusion now is whether they consider both of the incomes and how will the get my avg weekly income. bec if they would not have considered mine then we would not have met by any chance, PLease suggest

APPX could be 90% accurate in CASE 2014

Carer Allowance: £61.35 (£245.40 P/M) (PAID Per Week)
Income Support: £ 13.17 (£52.62 P/M) (PAID PER WEEK)
Child Benefit: £47.60 (£190.40 P/M) (Per for 3 Kids Once a Month)
Child Tax Credits: £167.67 (£670.91 P/M) (Paid once per Month)
Housing Benefit: £92.31 (£369.24 P/M) (Paid Every 2 weeks )

TOTAL SPONSOR EARNING P/M: £ 1526.40 / (£381.6 P/W)

My Average Income P/M: £390 (£97.5 P/W) (AVG hours 60 per £6.50 )
Joint Net Income PER Month: £ 1916.40 (PER WEEK would BE £442.24) (A)

RENT+ COUNCIL TAX = £4800 P/Y (£400 P/M)++++++++COUNCIL TAX £200 P/Y =========================(£96.15 P/W) (B)


AS PER FORMULA

£442.24----------£96.15============ £346.09 (Remaining after deducting the B from A)

AVERAGE FAMILY INCOME SUPPORT MAINTENANCE BY THAT TIME ROUGHLY BY STANDARD BRITISH FAMILY
COUPLE Income suppor t Per week : £113.70
Dependent childs (as of 3 Kids) P/W: £66.33 x3 = £198.99
Family Premium P/W: £ 17.45
Total: £330.14
So As of Formula A----------------B>C

So We met the Criteria of the Adequate Maintenance..!

[adanmasood143]

Hi Vinny and others members,
Thanks for your reply actually i have calculated it and it looks like i was meeting the criteria only if they consider both of our incomes by the time of the application.. Please have a look and suggest please..

The only confusion now is whether they consider both of the incomes and how will the get my avg weekly income. bec if they would not have considered mine then we would not have met by any chance, PLease suggest

APPX could be 90% accurate in CASE 2014

Carer Allowance: £61.35 (£245.40 P/M) (PAID Per Week)
Income Support: £ 13.17 (£52.62 P/M) (PAID PER WEEK)
Child Benefit: £47.60 (£190.40 P/M) (Per for 3 Kids Once a Month)
Child Tax Credits: £167.67 (£670.91 P/M) (Paid once per Month)
Housing Benefit: £92.31 (£369.24 P/M) (Paid Every 2 weeks )

TOTAL SPONSOR EARNING P/M: £ 1526.40 / (£381.6 P/W)

My Average Income P/M: £390 (£97.5 P/W) (AVG hours 60 per £6.50 )
Joint Net Income PER Month: £ 1916.40 (PER WEEK would BE £442.24) (A)

RENT+ COUNCIL TAX = £4800 P/Y (£400 P/M)++++++++COUNCIL TAX £200 P/Y =========================(£96.15 P/W) (B)


AS PER FORMULA

£442.24----------£96.15============ £346.09 (Remaining after deducting the B from A)

AVERAGE FAMILY INCOME SUPPORT MAINTENANCE BY THAT TIME ROUGHLY BY STANDARD BRITISH FAMILY
COUPLE Income suppor t Per week : £113.70
Dependent childs (as of 3 Kids) P/W: £66.33 x3 = £198.99
Family Premium P/W: £ 17.45
Total: £330.14
So As of Formula A----------------B>C

So nby this calculation.. But needs the answer for the upper questions...

[vinny]

The only confusion now is whether they consider both of the incomes and how will the get my avg weekly income. bec if they would not have considered mine then we would not have met by any chance, PLease suggest

It seems that both sources of income from applicant and partner may be included, provided both are legally in the UK.

Ask your employers to work out the gross annual salary/income. Divide by 52 to get the weekly income.

[ConfusedPandaDotCom]

Hi

Looking to make a spouse visa application flrm soon. I have one dependent child. I'm a career for my sister and so exempt from the financial requirement.

I get £59.75 a week in carers allowance
£20.30 a week in child benefit
£269.92 a month in child tax credit
£56.80 a week in income support
£75 a week in housing benefit

My rent is £325 a month

I'm struggling to work out if we meet the requirement of £180.03 left over a week. Can you please help.

Thankyou

Hi there can you let me know how they broke this down please as we're currently applying for my wife's visa extension

[Omar3189]

hi there please help me to find out if we will meet the adequate maintenance level or not

we are couple and have son 19 years ( not my son ,, is my wife son before me )

my wife receive 250 pounds weekly and she have DLA certificate

i dont work and my wife dont work but we live on the support

we dont pay rent because my wife receive ESA so we dont pay and the government pay for the rent


so will us be able to meet the adequate maintenance level ????

[shah_101]

Dear all
I would appreciate it if anyone could help me, I the sponsor who has is a UK citizen, I have been working two jobs for nearly a year. I have been awarded PIP, on receipt of statutory sick pay from my first job £88.84 a week and from my second job I receive £589 after tax so estimated total monthly £944. I understand that after rent I would require £113.17 a week left over in order to satisfy "adequate maintenance" requirements. I have a child who is a UK passport holder I understand that each dependent requires £66.33 a week additional. But my child is a UK citizen so does this still apply? I would really appreciate it if anyone could give me clarification on regarding this.
Thank you all!

[rehankhan870]

Please note that there are new benefits rates effective from April 2014 which will need to be used in order to calculate adequate maintenance levels.

Following the Upper Tribunal case of Ahmed [benefits; proof of receipt; evidence] Bangladesh [2013] UKUT 84 [IAC] and the Immigration directorate instructions Annex F Chapter 8 Family Members - Maintenance And Accommodation (click) (include a copy) at page 4, paragraph 5.2, staff considering an application for entry clearance, leave to remain, further leave to remain or indefinite leave to remain must demonstrate calculations detailing the actual financial position of the applicant/sponsor in all cases that fall for refusal using the following formula:

A – B ≥ C

A minus B is greater than or equal to C.

Where:

A is the projected NET income (after deduction of income tax and national insurance contributions);

B is what needs to be spent on accommodation (rent/mortgage and council tax); and

C is the amount of Income Support an equivalent British family of that size can receive.

For the purpose of income, benefit income can be used as income as per Immigration directorate instructions Annex F Chapter 8 Family Members - Maintenance And Accommodation, paragraph 5.2(a). No benefit income is said to be excluded in the Immigration directorate instructions.

Key rates 2014/15 should be:

Income support rate for a:
couple £113.70 per week/£492.70 per calendar month
single person over 25: £72.40 per week/£313.73 per calendar month
each dependent child: £66.33 per week/£287.43 per calendar month
income support family premium: £17.45 per week/£75.62 per calendar month.

e.g. using these calculations a couple with two children would need to show:

£113.70 for couple
£17.45 family premium
£66.33 x 2, for each dependant child

=£263.81 per week left over after deducting rent/mortgage and council tax.

A couple with no children would need to show £113.70 per week remaining after rent/mortgage and council tax is deducted.


See
Benefit Rates 2014
Benefit and pension rates: April 2016

Is this rule apply to permanent settled (ILR/ILE HOLDERS) as well or if not, how much income do we need to show and can we claim working tax credit ?
Thanks in advance
Rehan

[rehankhan870]

Hi amber reply me. And Thanks for the useful information.
Is it same for the settled parents (holding ilr/ilr status) to apply for minor child entry clearance from pakistan.

[rehankhan870]

Please note that there are new benefits rates effective from April 2014 which will need to be used in order to calculate adequate maintenance levels.

Following the Upper Tribunal case of Ahmed [benefits; proof of receipt; evidence] Bangladesh [2013] UKUT 84 [IAC] and the Immigration directorate instructions Annex F Chapter 8 Family Members - Maintenance And Accommodation (click) (include a copy) at page 4, paragraph 5.2, staff considering an application for entry clearance, leave to remain, further leave to remain or indefinite leave to remain must demonstrate calculations detailing the actual financial position of the applicant/sponsor in all cases that fall for refusal using the following formula:

A – B ≥ C

A minus B is greater than or equal to C.

Where:

A is the projected NET income (after deduction of income tax and national insurance contributions);

B is what needs to be spent on accommodation (rent/mortgage and council tax); and

C is the amount of Income Support an equivalent British family of that size can receive.

For the purpose of income, benefit income can be used as income as per Immigration directorate instructions Annex F Chapter 8 Family Members - Maintenance And Accommodation, paragraph 5.2(a). No benefit income is said to be excluded in the Immigration directorate instructions.

Key rates 2014/15 should be:

Income support rate for a:
couple £113.70 per week/£492.70 per calendar month
single person over 25: £72.40 per week/£313.73 per calendar month
each dependent child: £66.33 per week/£287.43 per calendar month
income support family premium: £17.45 per week/£75.62 per calendar month.

e.g. using these calculations a couple with two children would need to show:

£113.70 for couple
£17.45 family premium
£66.33 x 2, for each dependant child

=£263.81 per week left over after deducting rent/mortgage and council tax.

A couple with no children would need to show £113.70 per week remaining after rent/mortgage and council tax is deducted.


See
Benefit Rates 2014
Benefit and pension rates: April 2016

I need help from you to understand me please.
For child ILE as settled parents with 45hrs week + working tax creditcan we apply for our minor son visa.
Thanks