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Qualifying period for Non EEA FM to apply for PR

Post by Omy_1124 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:01 pm

Scenario:
Wife: German National (Permanent Residence since November 2014). She came to UK in November 2004. Her parents and sister are also German Nationals and permanent residence holders from the same time.

Husband (Me): Non-EEA national. Came to UK on 8th December 2015 through EEA Family Permit. Got Residence card on 7th September 2016 and valid until 7th September 2021.

Wedding: 06 August 2015 in Bangladesh. Came to the UK together after wedding (08th December 2015) and have been living together since.

Questions:
1. From when does the qualifying time (05 Years) count to apply PR for me? Is it the time we got married? Or is this the time when I came to UK (08 Dec 2015)? Or the date mentioned on my RC (07 Sep 2016)?

2. If my wife takes BC what will happen to me?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Qualifying period for Non EEA FM to apply for PR

Post by noajthan » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:09 pm

1) Date arrived in UK.

2) Spouse/sponsor cannot sponsor you on EU route anymore.
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Re: Qualifying period for Non EEA FM to apply for PR

Post by Omy_1124 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:52 pm

Many thanks for the reply.

My solicitor said that the period counted starts from the date shown on the RC. According to that I would have to stay here for the full 05 years the RC is valid for and before that I can't apply for PR. It seems illogical to me. I was confused and wanted to clarify the matter.

Thanks again for your valuable advice.

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Re: Qualifying period for Non EEA FM to apply for PR

Post by noajthan » Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:07 am

Omy_1124 wrote:Many thanks for the reply.

My solicitor said that the period counted starts from the date shown on the RC. According to that I would have to stay here for the full 05 years the RC is valid for and before that I can't apply for PR. It seems illogical to me. I was confused and wanted to clarify the matter.

Thanks again for your valuable advice.
Suggest drop that solicitor and demand a refund. S/he is misinformed and has misadvised you.

The almost random date an optional RC happened to be issued to you is irrelevant.
A RC is simply a confirmatory document that is all, it does not grant any rights in itself.
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Re: Qualifying period for Non EEA FM to apply for PR

Post by Omy_1124 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:33 am

Hahaha I will definitely raise it to my solicitor. Thanks again for your great help.

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Re: Qualifying period for Non EEA FM to apply for PR

Post by noajthan » Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:22 am

Omy_1124 wrote:Hahaha I will definitely raise it to my solicitor. Thanks again for your great help.
Relevant date is latest of:
  • date of marriage;
    date of entry to UK;
    date sponsor starting exercising treaty rights;
(assuming you are still married to each other and neither party has enjoyed prolonged absence from UK)

You were married already and sponsor has already acquired the holy grail of settled status (so no need to exercise treaty rights anymore)
That leaves date of marriage.

Remind advisor, a RC is not a visa.
And advise her to read Directive 2004/38/EC.
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Re: Qualifying period for Non EEA FM to apply for PR

Post by Omy_1124 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:14 pm

noajthan wrote:
Omy_1124 wrote:Hahaha I will definitely raise it to my solicitor. Thanks again for your great help.
Relevant date is latest of:
  • date of marriage;
    date of entry to UK;
    date sponsor starting exercising treaty rights;
(assuming you are still married to each other and neither party has enjoyed prolonged absence from UK)

You were married already and sponsor has already acquired the holy grail of settled status (so no need to exercise treaty rights anymore)
That leaves date of marriage.

Remind advisor, a RC is not a visa.
And advise her to read Directive 2004/38/EC.
Right, now I'm quite clear about the relevant dates, thank you. So from my understanding, the date from when my qualifying period is counted starts from the day I entered the UK (08 Dec 15) rather than the date we got married, as our wedding was held in Bangladesh.. Is that right? We are still happily married and haven't had any prolonged absences.

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Re: Qualifying period for Non EEA FM to apply for PR

Post by noajthan » Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:17 pm

Omy_1124 wrote:
noajthan wrote:
Omy_1124 wrote:Hahaha I will definitely raise it to my solicitor. Thanks again for your great help.
Relevant date is latest of:
  • date of marriage;
    date of entry to UK;
    date sponsor starting exercising treaty rights;
(assuming you are still married to each other and neither party has enjoyed prolonged absence from UK)

You were married already and sponsor has already acquired the holy grail of settled status (so no need to exercise treaty rights anymore)
That leaves date of marriage.

Remind advisor, a RC is not a visa.
And advise her to read Directive 2004/38/EC.
Right, now I'm quite clear about the relevant dates, thank you. So from my understanding, the date from when my qualifying period is counted starts from the day I entered the UK (08 Dec 15) rather than the date we got married, as our wedding was held in Bangladesh.. Is that right? We are still happily married and haven't had any prolonged absences.
Yes, that is my understanding too (for reasons outlined above).
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Re: Qualifying period for Non EEA FM to apply for PR

Post by Omy_1124 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:37 pm

noajthan wrote:
Omy_1124 wrote: Right, now I'm quite clear about the relevant dates, thank you. So from my understanding, the date from when my qualifying period is counted starts from the day I entered the UK (08 Dec 15) rather than the date we got married, as our wedding was held in Bangladesh.. Is that right? We are still happily married and haven't had any prolonged absences.
Yes, that is my understanding too (for reasons outlined above).
Right I got it now. Thanks so much for all your help and advice! :)

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