What is Illegal Entry?

[mkhari]

What is Illegal Entry?

A person Granted DLR in legacy after Resfued asylum on initial stage

On claiming Asylum stage his Enterance was illegal
but he mentioned about his illegal entry when he claimed asylum that he came with someone else passport

Is there any problem for him to travel and come back

[Casa]

Is he intending to travel to the country from which he claimed asylum?

[mkhari]

thanks for yoru rerpy
Below is brief story

He entered Uk on someone else passport 2002
Claimed Asylum 2002 within 3 month of arrival
refused IS151a and IS151b Issued same year then appealed,
appealed refuses and exaust in 2003
Reporting then absconder
ECHR application in 2007
Pending till 2009 then applied in Legacy in 2009
2011 security letter received
then
2011 Granted DLR
2014 Applied extention
2015 DLr extended for another 3 years
in 2016 first time he made his national passport now he would like to visit in his own country
is it safe?

is it safe to visit any other country?
kind regards

[mkhari]

Casa
Any suggestion please

[Casa]

There are others far better placed to advise than I am.

[noajthan]

You need to clarify which countries are on your bucket list and if you still require refuge from them.
And if not what has changed.

[mkhari]

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... d-breaches

Some latest information i found related to this topic

Sorry to say in this forum noone give legal advise but just share you knowledge or suggestion

[mkhari]

Noahtha
First country to travel KSA
Person have valid second Discretionary Leave
As everyone aware in Legacy announce by home secratry in 2006 to concluded all failed asylum case then this legacy extended to anyone who applied asylum before march 2007

My question was so simple
A person granted leave to remain [DL ]
can he travel to any country
And he was an illegal enerant when he claimed
Asylum

[Casa]

You need to clarify which countries are on your bucket list and if you still require refuge from them.
And if not what has changed.

As noajthan has asked in the above post, is KSA the home country from which he claimed asylum?

If so, there is a risk that the previous asylum claim will be considered as false and the DL visa cancelled when attempting to re-enter the UK.

[mkhari]

Thanks
No KSA is not a home country
but point to be noted
First ever national Passport been made from Home country embassy is there any issue to obtain First national passport from own embassy

and then travel to any country apart from home

[Wanderer]

Thanks
No KSA is not a home country
but point to be noted
First ever national Passport been made from Home country embassy is there any issue to obtain First national passport from own embassy

and then travel to any country apart from home

What is your home country then? Why not just tell us?

[mkhari]

Kindly stick to the point
Its general question
Home Country can be anyone

My question is clear and straight and good answer will be helpfull for everyone

[CR001]

Its general question

You mean 'hypothetical' and wanting a range of 'answers' so that you can see which is best and 'make them fit'.

[mkhari]

first clear one point any other country not home country
then what is the suggestion

[Wanderer]

Kindly stick to the point
Its general question
Home Country can be anyone

My question is clear and straight and good answer will be helpfull for everyone

Kindly answer the question.

Your question is not clear and is at best ambiguous and at worst complete fabrication. If you want help you have to give us the facts not some random list of some mystery person's terrible immigration record in UK from some random state we don't know.

I'm calling troll on this one.....

[CR001]

Kindly answer the question.

Your question is not clear and is at best ambiguous and at worst complete fabrication. If you want help you have to give us the facts not some random list of some mystery person's terrible immigration record in UK from some random state we don't know.

I'm calling troll on this one.....

Same case and questions asked in July 2016

http://www.immigrationboards.com/genera ... l#p1382136

...And January 2016

http://www.immigrationboards.com/genera ... l#p1297001

...And June 2015

http://www.immigrationboards.com/genera ... l#p1206790

Nationality appears to be Pakistani.

[mkhari]

shall i say noone know the answer or suggestion

[noajthan]

Thanks
No KSA is not a home country
but point to be noted
First ever national Passport been made from Home country embassy is there any issue to obtain First national passport from own embassy

and then travel to any country apart from home

If you procure a passport from 'home' country you are placing yourself under the 'protection' of that country.
That does not seem to compute with claiming asylum from this same country.

[mkhari]

self explanatory

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... abroad.pdf

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... __v7_0.pdf


and atatchement from DLR second link

[mkhari]

Respectable members
I found answer of my question 90%
Although either noone now the answer or dont want to share
I would like to share according to best of my knowledge
If someone enter uk illegaly withanyway deception etc
And claim asylum without delay then below is the detail u r safe
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/313

https://www.freemovement.org.uk/channel ... lar-entry/

https://www.freemovement.org.uk/wrongfu ... verturned/


There are many more example when u entere illegaly n claim asylum asap u r not under deception

[mkhari]

Now the second part
Home office how can give leave to person who were illegal entry by deception according to
And whose appeal exaust asylum refused no pending appeal
Answer
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... d-removals

100% legacy decision was made by paragrapgh 53
U can read in above link
Exception circumstances
In this paragrapgh HO clealy mention about illegal entrance
Appeal right exaust and how to give leave to remain

This paragrapg caseworker need to follow with the help of paragraph 353b further submission

Travel answer to b continue

[Frontier Mole]

Putting it very simply - if you claim asylum from say Pakistan as an example and then seek to use that nationality to travel through the use of a passport from that country then it is reasonable for the HO to revisit the original reason to grant DL.
If the individual has DL and wishes to travel to any other country using the appropriate UK travel document then that will not be an issue.
If the individual seeks to use his home country passport then how does he expect to return to the UK? He is certainly not getting entry at the border using his home passport and a DL letter.

[mkhari]

Right inforamtion for forum
and clear the confusion


There is no problem to tarvel anywhere in the world including your home country on DL
onlything on airport you need to fill landing card and immigration officer (IO) most probably issue you IS81 and further check it takes 30minute to clear
just answer there question how did u get this leave and how long you stayed outside uk thatsit


other all inforamtion and scare thing are removed from yoru minds
all are wrong inforamtion
thanks

[Casa]

Putting it very simply - if you claim asylum from say Pakistan as an example and then seek to use that nationality to travel through the use of a passport from that country then it is reasonable for the HO to revisit the original reason to grant DL.
If the individual has DL and wishes to travel to any other country using the appropriate UK travel document then that will not be an issue.
If the individual seeks to use his home country passport then how does he expect to return to the UK? He is certainly not getting entry at the border using his home passport and a DL letter.

It's unlikely that anyone on the forum is better placed to advise on this than Frontier Mole.

[Wanderer]

Right inforamtion for forum
and clear the confusion


There is no problem to tarvel anywhere in the world including your home country on DL
onlything on airport you need to fill landing card and immigration officer (IO) most probably issue you IS81 and further check it takes 30minute to clear
just answer there question how did u get this leave and how long you stayed outside uk thatsit


other all inforamtion and scare thing are removed from yoru minds
all are wrong inforamtion
thanks

Doubt anyone would trust the advice from someone who can barely spell.