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s_r_san wrote:Hi
I am also in the same situation
All other points are granted other than 1st point
Only reason, my name was not mentioned as shareholder in accounts
Since shareholder is not mentioned in accounts as per current accounting practice or requirements for SME
my accountant did not mention my name in accounts as shareholder, but did as director
In your case, in sole trader's accounts, the capital mentioned in accounts belongs to the sole trader
That is the logic as per accountants
anyway you have the option to apply for AR based on the documents you submitted
they will not give the documents until your visa is granted
Or you may collect the documents in border when you leave UK
shazdar wrote:Unfortunately home office refused my visa with excuse that my name doesn't appear on the accounts and also they said that it wasn't mentioned that capital was injected into the business by myself . My accountant clearly mentioned my name on the accounts and on capital ledger account.
You both failed to read the guide and the rules and submit exactly what they need. I have said it many many times here that what is acceptable in the world of business as invested will NOT be necessarily enough for HO. Your name MUST appear opposite of the invested amount in the accounts, usually in your accounts notes.s_r_san wrote: Since shareholder is not mentioned in accounts as per current accounting practice or requirements for SME
my accountant did not mention my name in accounts as shareholder, but did as director
Continue in your own thread http://www.immigrationboards.com/uk-tie ... 15327.htmlsamrattheking wrote:Hi I have entrepreneur visa (50K after PSW) since 2013. My visa will be ending soon. I have query about employment which I created for my company.
My company Total employment up to till date is below mention as from last 16 months:
One full time employment since last 12 months holding british citizenship and still continue
+ One full time employment for 02 months holding British citizenship but left the job after 02 months
+ One full time employment since last 6months holding Eu citizenship and still continue
+ One part time employment for 12 months holding ILR but left the job
+ One part time employment for 12 months but Eu citizenship dependent and left the job.
I got my visa since 2013 so can any one please guide me which employment is count for claiming employment points and which employment is not able to count for claiming points for visa?
Can anyone please guide me as I have two more months left so how much more employment do i need for claim points?
Yes, but it is 28 days from when your section 3C ends. That is if you apply for AR and get rejected or if you choose to not apply for AR within 14 days. Your documents should be returned to you after the AR refusal or after 14 days if you do not apply for AR.Are there possibilities for fresh application? more than 28 days from the expiry of the previous visa and HO keeps the documents
shazdar wrote:Dear All,
I had a meeting with my accountant this morning, he assured me Sol Proprietor accounts has been prepared according to a UK acceptable framework and home office must accept it.
Every page of financial statements state My name XYAZ trading as ABC Services. IN sole trader accounts, there is only one owner so all figures including Capital introduced (investment ) ment ) belong to the owner of the business. This isn't parnership or limited company so there is no way that any 3rd party invested in the business except the owner sole trader.
My full name was clearly appeared on all pages of financial statements so Home office excuse that investment doesn't show my full name is just a useless base to refuse my visa.
I am quite sure Home office will issue my visa on AR if not then definitely I will win the case in court.
Dear Shazdar,shazdar wrote:Dear All,
I had a meeting with my accountant this morning, he assured me Sol Proprietor accounts has been prepared according to a UK acceptable framework and home office must accept it.
Every page of financial statements state My name XYAZ trading as ABC Services. IN sole trader accounts, there is only one owner so all figures including Capital introduced (investment ) ment ) belong to the owner of the business. This isn't parnership or limited company so there is no way that any 3rd party invested in the business except the owner sole trader.
My full name was clearly appeared on all pages of financial statements so Home office excuse that investment doesn't show my full name is just a useless base to refuse my visa.
I am quite sure Home office will issue my visa on AR if not then definitely I will win the case in court.
zimba88 wrote:shazdar wrote:Unfortunately home office refused my visa with excuse that my name doesn't appear on the accounts and also they said that it wasn't mentioned that capital was injected into the business by myself . My accountant clearly mentioned my name on the accounts and on capital ledger account.You both failed to read the guide and the rules and submit exactly what they need. I have said it many many times here that what is acceptable in the world of business as invested will NOT be necessarily enough for HO. Your name MUST appear opposite of the invested amount in the accounts, usually in your accounts notes.s_r_san wrote: Since shareholder is not mentioned in accounts as per current accounting practice or requirements for SME
my accountant did not mention my name in accounts as shareholder, but did as director
You need to follow the immigration rules meticulously and provide the exact evidence required. You should be able to apply for a new application with correct documents with the required information
Why spending on JR. During that time you cannot work or do anything and if you fail, that will be the end of things.shazdar wrote:Dear Members specially Zimba
Any help will be really appreciated, here is the link of my previous thread
My first Solicitor Messed Up My AR Case, please be careful for hiring any solicitors and don't forget to review their presentation for sending to the home office.
I really appreciate Zimba's and other member's quick response on all of my previous posts, i am writing further information for my case here that may help someone or someone may assist me.
I am sole proprietor and invested around 88k(5k at the time of initial application and rest of them up to the extension date) but case worker misunderstood the nature of business and treat it company accounts. They refused my extension application as HO objects my NAME doesn't appear opposite to the investment or investment doesn't show my name.
My accountant confirmed that 88K was invested by myself and provided breakdown of each transactions along the reference letter.
HO actually accepted that there are 88k funds has been invested but not sure who have invested.
Since my name was appeared on all pages of Financial Statements as ABC trading as XYZ Services ( provided 4 years accounts) and business status is sole trader, neither a limed company nar a partnership so obviously no other organisation or person have interest in the business except the owner ( sole trader) so all figures including CAPITAL INTRODUCED were relate to the owner of the business that were further verified by the personal and business bank statements as money were transferred as Capital Introduced.
In sole trader accounts , money came from third party will come under CREDITORS as there is no option for investment in sole trader accounts except the owner of the business.
Most important point, HO accepted 5k investment at the time of initial application but the accounts format were same as my name didn't appear in front of capital introduced as my full name was mentioned on all pages of financial statements.
There is contradiction on home office decision as one document they are accepting as investment but other document in same formate rejected.
I am the sole owner of the business and that any investments in the business MUST therefore come from me not third party.
My case was very strong and i was 100% confident while applying AR that HO may overturn their decision but unfortunately (my bad luck) my solicitor messed up my case and didn't raise most important points at AR.. My accountant (accountant is my cousin) specifically told him that what points need to be raised in AR application. Accountant also provided supporting letter that need to be sent with the AR application. Unfortunately Solicitor didn't raise any points ,he also didn't bother to forward accountant letter to clarify above points.
I received second refusal from the home office with solicitors presentation, i was shocked after reviewing solicitor's presentations that was totally irrelevant to the objection made by the HO.I can even prepare a better case as compare to solicitor's letter. He took one £1000 fee and just sent two paragraph's letter to HO.
I believe Solicitors deliberately messed with my case in order to squeeze more money in JR or in court.
I straight away changed my solicitor and hired another well known solicitor from Liverpool.I feel confident with new Solicitor and he assured me that my case is very strong as case worker misunderstood the nature of business .
I spent around £5000 and case has been lodged in court.
I will update in future if i have any further information regarding my case.
Obie wrote:Why spending on JR. During that time you cannot work or do anything and if you fail, that will be the end of things.shazdar wrote:Dear Members specially Zimba
Any help will be really appreciated, here is the link of my previous thread
My first Solicitor Messed Up My AR Case, please be careful for hiring any solicitors and don't forget to review their presentation for sending to the home office.
I really appreciate Zimba's and other member's quick response on all of my previous posts, i am writing further information for my case here that may help someone or someone may assist me.
I am sole proprietor and invested around 88k(5k at the time of initial application and rest of them up to the extension date) but case worker misunderstood the nature of business and treat it company accounts. They refused my extension application as HO objects my NAME doesn't appear opposite to the investment or investment doesn't show my name.
My accountant confirmed that 88K was invested by myself and provided breakdown of each transactions along the reference letter.
HO actually accepted that there are 88k funds has been invested but not sure who have invested.
Since my name was appeared on all pages of Financial Statements as ABC trading as XYZ Services ( provided 4 years accounts) and business status is sole trader, neither a limed company nar a partnership so obviously no other organisation or person have interest in the business except the owner ( sole trader) so all figures including CAPITAL INTRODUCED were relate to the owner of the business that were further verified by the personal and business bank statements as money were transferred as Capital Introduced.
In sole trader accounts , money came from third party will come under CREDITORS as there is no option for investment in sole trader accounts except the owner of the business.
Most important point, HO accepted 5k investment at the time of initial application but the accounts format were same as my name didn't appear in front of capital introduced as my full name was mentioned on all pages of financial statements.
There is contradiction on home office decision as one document they are accepting as investment but other document in same formate rejected.
I am the sole owner of the business and that any investments in the business MUST therefore come from me not third party.
My case was very strong and i was 100% confident while applying AR that HO may overturn their decision but unfortunately (my bad luck) my solicitor messed up my case and didn't raise most important points at AR.. My accountant (accountant is my cousin) specifically told him that what points need to be raised in AR application. Accountant also provided supporting letter that need to be sent with the AR application. Unfortunately Solicitor didn't raise any points ,he also didn't bother to forward accountant letter to clarify above points.
I received second refusal from the home office with solicitors presentation, i was shocked after reviewing solicitor's presentations that was totally irrelevant to the objection made by the HO.I can even prepare a better case as compare to solicitor's letter. He took one £1000 fee and just sent two paragraph's letter to HO.
I believe Solicitors deliberately messed with my case in order to squeeze more money in JR or in court.
I straight away changed my solicitor and hired another well known solicitor from Liverpool.I feel confident with new Solicitor and he assured me that my case is very strong as case worker misunderstood the nature of business .
I spent around £5000 and case has been lodged in court.
I will update in future if i have any further information regarding my case.
Why did you not make a new application, and address the issue the lawyer failed to address, at this stage, i thing you are wrong to go for JR.
Unlike in Scotland, in English Court, JR is discretionary, and therefore the judge may refuse to grant relief for other reasons, even if you make a case.
Congratulations at least for pushing them back which they deserve .grenland7862 wrote:Dear Members,
I am pleased to announce that Home Office has withdrawn their decision under challenge( lodged by myself ) and will provide new decision with in 3 months time.HO accepted that they reached an incorrect decision where they their argued that investment doesn't show my name.They also agrees to pay reasonable costs.
HO withdrawn before the case officially go ahead for hearing.
Since i was awarded points on all other categorises including employment so I hope to get a positive response but i am still confused HO may reject again on other grounds ( i believe there are no other grounds to refuse).
I spent around £5500 cost, not sure how much will be refunded.
Any advise will be really appreciated.
Best regards,
grenland7862 wrote:Dear Members,
I am pleased to announce that Home Office has withdrawn their decision under challenge( lodged by myself ) and will provide new decision with in 3 months time.HO accepted that they reached an incorrect decision where they their argued that investment doesn't show my name.They also agrees to pay reasonable costs.
HO withdrawn before the case officially go ahead for hearing.
Since i was awarded points on all other categorises including employment so I hope to get a positive response but i am still confused HO may reject again on other grounds ( i believe there are no other grounds to refuse).
I spent around £5500 cost, not sure how much will be refunded.
Any advise will be really appreciated.
Best regards,